New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys
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t8cmf said:
B10BRW said:
Can you please tell me where you obtained the cable and dummy OBD port from.
I will have do the same as you, as BMW are F
g useless.
Happy to help.I will have do the same as you, as BMW are F
g useless. Firstly, I don't know what variant of BMW you have so I'll tell you what I did (E92 M3) and you will have to find your particular version if it's not an E92.
The cable you will need is in the link below (the same cable is available on eBay also). Get the 3m length as it will give a whole host of possible relocation points within your car.
http://www.gendan.co.uk/product_OBD3M.html
The dummy port you will have to order from a BMW dealership and they will order it from their contacts in Germany. It will take 3-4 days to arrive. The part number (for E92) is 61-13-6-931-908. They are £5.
I cable tied the in-car OBD port to my extension cable and routed the opposite end of the cable to a secret location. I then bolted the dummy OBD port in place of my now hidden original OBD port.
In the dead of night it will hopefully confuse the thieves enough to send them on their way. It's all about confusing / hindering them. They don't have time to hunt for your OBD port or to start removing your dashboard even if they could get near it.
Mine is a E92 as well, will order the parts tomorrow.
t8cmf said:
It should be the same as the number I provided. I think the E9* platform all have the same internals. The second digit (I think) refers to the variant, ie coupe / convertible / 4 door / etc. Check anyway though just to be sure.
You're right.They are an interchangeable part across the range.£5.95 from Sytner with a couple of days turnaround.
Edited by Billyray911 on Tuesday 31st July 11:51
caught them hacking into my X5 m @ 3.15am on sunday,they had not only got in without triggering alarm and accessed the OBD port but stripped the center console (Screen/HD drive/idrive) they accidentally pressed the horn - which alerted me and got me downstairs to give chase. police arrived in about 3 mins and we looked over the car, no marks anywhere (they reckoned they were about 30 secs away from driving it off)! the advised to chop it in for an audi as they werent being targeted as much!
BMW dealer not aware of a real issue, BMW UK sorry but its not our fault.... enough!!!! fitting secondary alarm with proximity, plus a few extra delay switches and a double heavy duty wheel clamp (for overnight on the rear wheels) oh and also a large sticker in the rear window from the gun club "you have been warned"
BMW dealer not aware of a real issue, BMW UK sorry but its not our fault.... enough!!!! fitting secondary alarm with proximity, plus a few extra delay switches and a double heavy duty wheel clamp (for overnight on the rear wheels) oh and also a large sticker in the rear window from the gun club "you have been warned"
MadAdMan said:
caught them hacking into my X5 m @ 3.15am on sunday,they had not only got in without triggering alarm and accessed the OBD port but stripped the center console (Screen/HD drive/idrive) they accidentally pressed the horn - which alerted me and got me downstairs to give chase. police arrived in about 3 mins and we looked over the car, no marks anywhere (they reckoned they were about 30 secs away from driving it off)! the advised to chop it in for an audi as they werent being targeted as much!
BMW dealer not aware of a real issue, BMW UK sorry but its not our fault.... enough!!!! fitting secondary alarm with proximity, plus a few extra delay switches and a double heavy duty wheel clamp (for overnight on the rear wheels) oh and also a large sticker in the rear window from the gun club "you have been warned"
BMW dealer not aware of a real issue, BMW UK sorry but its not our fault.... enough!!!! fitting secondary alarm with proximity, plus a few extra delay switches and a double heavy duty wheel clamp (for overnight on the rear wheels) oh and also a large sticker in the rear window from the gun club "you have been warned"
Any idea why they were stripping the interior?Does anyone think it's worthwhile setting up a website dedicated to this issue? Detailing all the cars that have been stolen, BMW's stance on the matter etc? I know we have a good resource here on PH in this thread but that is ultimately controlled by Haymarket and can be pulled at any moment.
I'm happy to stand the cost of domain registration and hosting.
I'm happy to stand the cost of domain registration and hosting.
ArsE92 said:
Any idea why they were stripping the interior?http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/541...anyone else get theirs stripped? its a 2012 x5 3dM sport? but it took two of them and a third in a car at the T junction at the bottom of the road...
ArsE92 said:
Does anyone think it's worthwhile setting up a website dedicated to this issue? Detailing all the cars that have been stolen, BMW's stance on the matter etc? I know we have a good resource here on PH in this thread but that is ultimately controlled by Haymarket and can be pulled at any moment.
I'm happy to stand the cost of domain registration and hosting.
A virtual petition! more names = more press coverage = even more names = mep representation = even more names + police crime number confirmations = BMW WW are called out. I'm happy to stand the cost of domain registration and hosting.
MadAdMan said:
caught them hacking into my X5 m @ 3.15am on sunday,they had not only got in without triggering alarm and accessed the OBD port but stripped the center console (Screen/HD drive/idrive) they accidentally pressed the horn - which alerted me and got me downstairs to give chase. police arrived in about 3 mins and we looked over the car, no marks anywhere (they reckoned they were about 30 secs away from driving it off)! the advised to chop it in for an audi as they werent being targeted as much!
BMW dealer not aware of a real issue, BMW UK sorry but its not our fault.... enough!!!! fitting secondary alarm with proximity, plus a few extra delay switches and a double heavy duty wheel clamp (for overnight on the rear wheels) oh and also a large sticker in the rear window from the gun club "you have been warned"
Which alarm are you having fitted? I want to do this on my x5 before the inevitable happens.BMW dealer not aware of a real issue, BMW UK sorry but its not our fault.... enough!!!! fitting secondary alarm with proximity, plus a few extra delay switches and a double heavy duty wheel clamp (for overnight on the rear wheels) oh and also a large sticker in the rear window from the gun club "you have been warned"
MadAdMan said:
ArsE92 said:
Any idea why they were stripping the interior?http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/541...anyone else get theirs stripped? its a 2012 x5 3dM sport? but it took two of them and a third in a car at the T junction at the bottom of the road...
What a disgusting situation.
BMWs attitude is disgusting (this would make me think twice about buying another) and the law is disgusting in that it protects the scum that are doing this. - It should be perfectly legal to set-up bait cars then shoot the bds when they arrive.
Or...
007 Burglar Protection
My thoughts are with the owners that have had to go through this - it must be a sickening feeling. Good luck to the rest of you.
BMWs attitude is disgusting (this would make me think twice about buying another) and the law is disgusting in that it protects the scum that are doing this. - It should be perfectly legal to set-up bait cars then shoot the b
ds when they arrive.Or...
007 Burglar Protection
My thoughts are with the owners that have had to go through this - it must be a sickening feeling. Good luck to the rest of you.
BMW will NEVER openly admit they are at fault. There is way too much at stake for them to do that. There would be queue a mile long at every dealer with irate customers demanding a solution FOC. BMW's would be off the company car list across the country, Thatcham would withdraw their classification status, insurance premiums would go through the roof for every owner, those cars on leases would be dumped on forecourts with keys pushed through the letterbox and a snotty note saying shove this where the sun don't shine, etc.
I am sure (or hope at least) that BMW are aware of the issue and are working to solve it. Maybe it's worth a concerted effort to contact BMW in Germany and make them aware of it, afterall they are the ones making the cars with security hole, BMW GB are really just a sales outlet.
I am sure (or hope at least) that BMW are aware of the issue and are working to solve it. Maybe it's worth a concerted effort to contact BMW in Germany and make them aware of it, afterall they are the ones making the cars with security hole, BMW GB are really just a sales outlet.
ArsE92 said:
MadAdMan said:
caught them hacking into my X5 m @ 3.15am on sunday,they had not only got in without triggering alarm and accessed the OBD port but stripped the center console (Screen/HD drive/idrive) they accidentally pressed the horn - which alerted me and got me downstairs to give chase. police arrived in about 3 mins and we looked over the car, no marks anywhere (they reckoned they were about 30 secs away from driving it off)! the advised to chop it in for an audi as they werent being targeted as much!
BMW dealer not aware of a real issue, BMW UK sorry but its not our fault.... enough!!!! fitting secondary alarm with proximity, plus a few extra delay switches and a double heavy duty wheel clamp (for overnight on the rear wheels) oh and also a large sticker in the rear window from the gun club "you have been warned"
BMW dealer not aware of a real issue, BMW UK sorry but its not our fault.... enough!!!! fitting secondary alarm with proximity, plus a few extra delay switches and a double heavy duty wheel clamp (for overnight on the rear wheels) oh and also a large sticker in the rear window from the gun club "you have been warned"
Any idea why they were stripping the interior?Interesting thread this, especially as I picked up my E92 330D M Sport last Wednesday...
Having spent the better part of the afternoon reading it start from finish I'm not sure what to think. It has the usual PH 'secret recipe' of at least 70% hearsay and utter tripe, but some of it is undoubtedly genuine, useful stuff.
It's difficult to say how prolific the problem is though, if at all. Yes, there are some (very sad) tales of empty driveways, but how many are linked to and talked about over 70+ pages, ten, fifteen maybe? BMW registered 116,000 cars in 2011 - of course not every theft is talked about on here, but still - epidemic? Time to run to an Audi dealer? [shudder]
And let's not forget the insurance debate - apparently the UK's 6th most popular car is about to be priced off the road? Premiums are going through the roof and 200,000 cars (just 2010 and 2011 BTW) will be uninsurable, rendering BMW's 8.5% share of the UK car market pointless... Honestly, it's like reading the Daily Mail by stealth.
It's truly terrifying, my 330D has just cost me £613, up £50 from my ageing Saab 93. Again, some interesting tales - but surely some perspective sorely needed?
So as far as definitive, reliable information goes - that's also greyer than a foggy Dogger Bank. At night. In winter.
What we do know is that several cars have been taken with similar MO's, from what seem to be a couple of hotspots. And that really about it. Yes we've got a few figures from a bloke here and there, but without context, what do they actually mean? We've got a stack of theories, but aside from one or two solid bits of empirical evidence (like the 1 series theft) data is thin on the ground.
I'm not disappointed by BMW's response either, in fact - I'm apathetic to be honest. I mean, what do we expect in today's blame-orientated society? Did I really expect the salesman to explain the exquisite poise and delicacy of the chassis and then stumble into "oh, by the way..." Never going to happen.
What I can hope for is that behind the scenes, continued pressure (inherent and external) ensure that BMW produce a solution for not only this loophole, but the next, and the next. For all we know, they probably are, at least that's what I choose to believe of a premium car manufacturer that's been going for a fair old while.
And if not, then there's always Audi. Oh, hang on...
My heart goes out to those who have had their P&J taken, and my sincere thanks to those posting useful material, it's appreciated.
Here's a pic of my E92 - modified this evening on the back of this thread...
Having spent the better part of the afternoon reading it start from finish I'm not sure what to think. It has the usual PH 'secret recipe' of at least 70% hearsay and utter tripe, but some of it is undoubtedly genuine, useful stuff.
It's difficult to say how prolific the problem is though, if at all. Yes, there are some (very sad) tales of empty driveways, but how many are linked to and talked about over 70+ pages, ten, fifteen maybe? BMW registered 116,000 cars in 2011 - of course not every theft is talked about on here, but still - epidemic? Time to run to an Audi dealer? [shudder]
And let's not forget the insurance debate - apparently the UK's 6th most popular car is about to be priced off the road? Premiums are going through the roof and 200,000 cars (just 2010 and 2011 BTW) will be uninsurable, rendering BMW's 8.5% share of the UK car market pointless... Honestly, it's like reading the Daily Mail by stealth.
It's truly terrifying, my 330D has just cost me £613, up £50 from my ageing Saab 93. Again, some interesting tales - but surely some perspective sorely needed?
So as far as definitive, reliable information goes - that's also greyer than a foggy Dogger Bank. At night. In winter.
What we do know is that several cars have been taken with similar MO's, from what seem to be a couple of hotspots. And that really about it. Yes we've got a few figures from a bloke here and there, but without context, what do they actually mean? We've got a stack of theories, but aside from one or two solid bits of empirical evidence (like the 1 series theft) data is thin on the ground.
I'm not disappointed by BMW's response either, in fact - I'm apathetic to be honest. I mean, what do we expect in today's blame-orientated society? Did I really expect the salesman to explain the exquisite poise and delicacy of the chassis and then stumble into "oh, by the way..." Never going to happen.
What I can hope for is that behind the scenes, continued pressure (inherent and external) ensure that BMW produce a solution for not only this loophole, but the next, and the next. For all we know, they probably are, at least that's what I choose to believe of a premium car manufacturer that's been going for a fair old while.
And if not, then there's always Audi. Oh, hang on...
My heart goes out to those who have had their P&J taken, and my sincere thanks to those posting useful material, it's appreciated.
Here's a pic of my E92 - modified this evening on the back of this thread...
Kuroblack350 said:
Interesting thread this, especially as I picked up my E92 330D M Sport last Wednesday...
Having spent the better part of the afternoon reading it start from finish I'm not sure what to think. It has the usual PH 'secret recipe' of at least 70% hearsay and utter tripe, but some of it is undoubtedly genuine, useful stuff.
It's difficult to say how prolific the problem is though, if at all. Yes, there are some (very sad) tales of empty driveways, but how many are linked to and talked about over 70+ pages, ten, fifteen maybe? BMW registered 116,000 cars in 2011 - of course not every theft is talked about on here, but still - epidemic? Time to run to an Audi dealer? [shudder]
And let's not forget the insurance debate - apparently the UK's 6th most popular car is about to be priced off the road? Premiums are going through the roof and 200,000 cars (just 2010 and 2011 BTW) will be uninsurable, rendering BMW's 8.5% share of the UK car market pointless... Honestly, it's like reading the Daily Mail by stealth.
It's truly terrifying, my 330D has just cost me £613, up £50 from my ageing Saab 93. Again, some interesting tales - but surely some perspective sorely needed?
So as far as definitive, reliable information goes - that's also greyer than a foggy Dogger Bank. At night. In winter.
What we do know is that several cars have been taken with similar MO's, from what seem to be a couple of hotspots. And that really about it. Yes we've got a few figures from a bloke here and there, but without context, what do they actually mean? We've got a stack of theories, but aside from one or two solid bits of empirical evidence (like the 1 series theft) data is thin on the ground.
I'm not disappointed by BMW's response either, in fact - I'm apathetic to be honest. I mean, what do we expect in today's blame-orientated society? Did I really expect the salesman to explain the exquisite poise and delicacy of the chassis and then stumble into "oh, by the way..." Never going to happen.
What I can hope for is that behind the scenes, continued pressure (inherent and external) ensure that BMW produce a solution for not only this loophole, but the next, and the next. For all we know, they probably are, at least that's what I choose to believe of a premium car manufacturer that's been going for a fair old while.
And if not, then there's always Audi. Oh, hang on...
My heart goes out to those who have had their P&J taken, and my sincere thanks to those posting useful material, it's appreciated.
Here's a pic of my E92 - modified this evening on the back of this thread...
I suspect you may well get some stick for your thread but I totally agree with your points. The order of the day is to be proactive and try and keep hold of your own pride and joy rather than trusting BMW's electronics to do it for you. My own attitude is also apathetic towards this issue. I also have the same Disklok. Having spent the better part of the afternoon reading it start from finish I'm not sure what to think. It has the usual PH 'secret recipe' of at least 70% hearsay and utter tripe, but some of it is undoubtedly genuine, useful stuff.
It's difficult to say how prolific the problem is though, if at all. Yes, there are some (very sad) tales of empty driveways, but how many are linked to and talked about over 70+ pages, ten, fifteen maybe? BMW registered 116,000 cars in 2011 - of course not every theft is talked about on here, but still - epidemic? Time to run to an Audi dealer? [shudder]
And let's not forget the insurance debate - apparently the UK's 6th most popular car is about to be priced off the road? Premiums are going through the roof and 200,000 cars (just 2010 and 2011 BTW) will be uninsurable, rendering BMW's 8.5% share of the UK car market pointless... Honestly, it's like reading the Daily Mail by stealth.
It's truly terrifying, my 330D has just cost me £613, up £50 from my ageing Saab 93. Again, some interesting tales - but surely some perspective sorely needed?
So as far as definitive, reliable information goes - that's also greyer than a foggy Dogger Bank. At night. In winter.
What we do know is that several cars have been taken with similar MO's, from what seem to be a couple of hotspots. And that really about it. Yes we've got a few figures from a bloke here and there, but without context, what do they actually mean? We've got a stack of theories, but aside from one or two solid bits of empirical evidence (like the 1 series theft) data is thin on the ground.
I'm not disappointed by BMW's response either, in fact - I'm apathetic to be honest. I mean, what do we expect in today's blame-orientated society? Did I really expect the salesman to explain the exquisite poise and delicacy of the chassis and then stumble into "oh, by the way..." Never going to happen.
What I can hope for is that behind the scenes, continued pressure (inherent and external) ensure that BMW produce a solution for not only this loophole, but the next, and the next. For all we know, they probably are, at least that's what I choose to believe of a premium car manufacturer that's been going for a fair old while.
And if not, then there's always Audi. Oh, hang on...
My heart goes out to those who have had their P&J taken, and my sincere thanks to those posting useful material, it's appreciated.
Here's a pic of my E92 - modified this evening on the back of this thread...
Kuroblack350 said:
Interesting thread this, especially as I picked up my E92 330D M Sport last Wednesday...
Having spent the better part of the afternoon reading it start from finish I'm not sure what to think. It has the usual PH 'secret recipe' of at least 70% hearsay and utter tripe, but some of it is undoubtedly genuine, useful stuff.
It's difficult to say how prolific the problem is though, if at all. Yes, there are some (very sad) tales of empty driveways, but how many are linked to and talked about over 70+ pages, ten, fifteen maybe? BMW registered 116,000 cars in 2011 - of course not every theft is talked about on here, but still - epidemic? Time to run to an Audi dealer? [shudder]
And let's not forget the insurance debate - apparently the UK's 6th most popular car is about to be priced off the road? Premiums are going through the roof and 200,000 cars (just 2010 and 2011 BTW) will be uninsurable, rendering BMW's 8.5% share of the UK car market pointless... Honestly, it's like reading the Daily Mail by stealth.
It's truly terrifying, my 330D has just cost me £613, up £50 from my ageing Saab 93. Again, some interesting tales - but surely some perspective sorely needed?
So as far as definitive, reliable information goes - that's also greyer than a foggy Dogger Bank. At night. In winter.
What we do know is that several cars have been taken with similar MO's, from what seem to be a couple of hotspots. And that really about it. Yes we've got a few figures from a bloke here and there, but without context, what do they actually mean? We've got a stack of theories, but aside from one or two solid bits of empirical evidence (like the 1 series theft) data is thin on the ground.
I'm not disappointed by BMW's response either, in fact - I'm apathetic to be honest. I mean, what do we expect in today's blame-orientated society? Did I really expect the salesman to explain the exquisite poise and delicacy of the chassis and then stumble into "oh, by the way..." Never going to happen.
What I can hope for is that behind the scenes, continued pressure (inherent and external) ensure that BMW produce a solution for not only this loophole, but the next, and the next. For all we know, they probably are, at least that's what I choose to believe of a premium car manufacturer that's been going for a fair old while.
And if not, then there's always Audi. Oh, hang on...
My heart goes out to those who have had their P&J taken, and my sincere thanks to those posting useful material, it's appreciated.
Here's a pic of my E92 - modified this evening on the back of this thread...
I'm glad you feel all safe and secure about your new purchase. my colleague felt the same way when he bought his 330m 2 months ago, 3 weeks after taking delivery it was taken from his drive at night. just like the thousands that have been stolen since january this year. He didnt get GAP insurance when he bouight the car and his insurance payout was £8,000 less that what he paid for the car.
Just remember, these things always happen to someone else until they happen to you and you wake up to an empty driveway.
Interesting thread this, especially as I picked up my E92 330D M Sport last Wednesday...
Having spent the better part of the afternoon reading it start from finish I'm not sure what to think. It has the usual PH 'secret recipe' of at least 70% hearsay and utter tripe, but some of it is undoubtedly genuine, useful stuff.
It's difficult to say how prolific the problem is though, if at all. Yes, there are some (very sad) tales of empty driveways, but how many are linked to and talked about over 70+ pages, ten, fifteen maybe? BMW registered 116,000 cars in 2011 - of course not every theft is talked about on here, but still - epidemic? Time to run to an Audi dealer? [shudder]
And let's not forget the insurance debate - apparently the UK's 6th most popular car is about to be priced off the road? Premiums are going through the roof and 200,000 cars (just 2010 and 2011 BTW) will be uninsurable, rendering BMW's 8.5% share of the UK car market pointless... Honestly, it's like reading the Daily Mail by stealth.
It's truly terrifying, my 330D has just cost me £613, up £50 from my ageing Saab 93. Again, some interesting tales - but surely some perspective sorely needed?
So as far as definitive, reliable information goes - that's also greyer than a foggy Dogger Bank. At night. In winter.
What we do know is that several cars have been taken with similar MO's, from what seem to be a couple of hotspots. And that really about it. Yes we've got a few figures from a bloke here and there, but without context, what do they actually mean? We've got a stack of theories, but aside from one or two solid bits of empirical evidence (like the 1 series theft) data is thin on the ground.
I'm not disappointed by BMW's response either, in fact - I'm apathetic to be honest. I mean, what do we expect in today's blame-orientated society? Did I really expect the salesman to explain the exquisite poise and delicacy of the chassis and then stumble into "oh, by the way..." Never going to happen.
What I can hope for is that behind the scenes, continued pressure (inherent and external) ensure that BMW produce a solution for not only this loophole, but the next, and the next. For all we know, they probably are, at least that's what I choose to believe of a premium car manufacturer that's been going for a fair old while.
And if not, then there's always Audi. Oh, hang on...
My heart goes out to those who have had their P&J taken, and my sincere thanks to those posting useful material, it's appreciated.
Here's a pic of my E92 - modified this evening on the back of this thread...
I'm glad you feel all safe and secure about your new purchase. my colleague felt the same way when he bought his 330m 2 months ago, 3 weeks after taking delivery it was taken from his drive at night. just like the thousands that have been stolen since january this year. He didnt get GAP insurance when he bouight the car and his insurance payout was £8,000 less that what he paid for the car.
Just remember, these things always happen to someone else until they happen to you and you wake up to an empty driveway.
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