New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys

New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys

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GarryA

4,700 posts

164 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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essexplumber said:
I haven't read this thread yet so excuse my stupidity. I'm seeing lots of newer BM's with the facia piece that covers headlamp wash and tow eyes missing, is this connected to attempted thefts?


Tow eye covers fall off with the slightest breeze.

Headlamp wash jets / covers go into orbit if you try then when the fluids frozen.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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GarryA said:
Headlamp wash jets / covers go into orbit if you try then when the fluids frozen.
And when that happens they steel yours

essexplumber

7,751 posts

173 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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WeirdNeville said:
essexplumber said:
I haven't read this thread yet so excuse my stupidity. I'm seeing lots of newer BM's with the facia piece that covers headlamp wash and tow eyes missing, is this connected to attempted thefts?
No.

essexplumber said:
Also I have recently bought a 56 plate X3 2.0d. Would these be a possible target?
If it has push button start, yes.
Ah, no it doesn't. Thanks for answering my questions.

breadvan

2,003 posts

168 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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Lots of really useful posts here, I've looked, but can't find definitive list of what's at risk? In particular, I'm looking at a 12 plate X3 35d, should I be concerned? BTW my dealer doesn't know what I'm talking about!

essexplumber

7,751 posts

173 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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breadvan said:
BTW my dealer doesn't know what I'm talking about!
They must know. They just don't want to put you off.

roofer

5,136 posts

211 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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essexplumber said:
breadvan said:
BTW my dealer doesn't know what I'm talking about!
They must know. They just don't want to put you off.
Of course they do, probably had a revision to dealer training days teaching the salesmen how to look surprised when you mention it !

Thom987

3,185 posts

166 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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andyroo said:
Deterring the thieves is definitely the priority... all this talk about trackers just makes me think about having a car with Stolen/Recovered on the HPI that you'll never be able to sell...
If you dont claim on your insurance it won' be recorded on any register.

breadvan

2,003 posts

168 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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roofer said:
essexplumber said:
breadvan said:
BTW my dealer doesn't know what I'm talking about!
They must know. They just don't want to put you off.
Of course they do, probably had a revision to dealer training days teaching the salesmen how to look surprised when you mention it !
Dunno know who know what anymore, I guess the latest X3 is ok?



Edited by breadvan on Tuesday 21st August 11:09

ChiswickBeasty

1 posts

140 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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Ok so I live I chiswick London and I have been aware for some time that somebody had been getting into my 1 Series convertible at will. I traded my company car in and bought my own. Same thing happened, it would be rifled through regularly. Then on Saturday night just gone it got nicked. No signs of anything being smashed. Police have been warning people for some time on the local sign posts. I had intended to get a krooklock.

I actually think this cloud has a silver lining for me, I lost my car but should hopefully get most of the money back, surely BMW insurance premiums will soon rocket, and so the resale value of these cars will drop and they will be practically worthless.

BMW are no doubt putting their head in the sand hoping this goes away, but soon it'll catch up on them. I have had BMs for 5 years. No more. It's just not worth it. Cash down the drain. Moving to a nice low profile VW I think.

Will save the money for track days.

Totally gutted And fell massively let down by BMW. Never again.

Timbola

1,956 posts

140 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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Really sorry to hear that Chiswick. What a horrible thing to happen. frown

MadAdMan

30 posts

141 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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breadvan said:
Lots of really useful posts here, I've looked, but can't find definitive list of what's at risk? In particular, I'm looking at a 12 plate X3 35d, should I be concerned? BTW my dealer doesn't know what I'm talking about!
bottom line... if you have a push start button your at risk!

1. Disable/Move OBD
2. Warning Stickers
3. Disklock

and id seriously consider an aftermarket alarm - i did all the above and the extra its the only way to keep one step ahead.

best of luck



akita

10 posts

282 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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As a BMW owner who is affected by the key issue this is an interesting thread from across the pond discussing problems here and offering a reason why it is more of a problem in Europe

http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/07/hack...

sfax

3 posts

141 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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MadAdMan said:
bottom line... if you have a push start button your at risk!
I'm not sure that's true. Yet to see any reported OBD thefts of F series BMWs - all of the reports that I've read on this thread are E series - but very keen to know if they are affected as I have an F25

aeropilot

34,630 posts

227 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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sfax said:
MadAdMan said:
bottom line... if you have a push start button your at risk!
I'm not sure that's true. Yet to see any reported OBD thefts of F series BMWs - all of the reports that I've read on this thread are E series - but very keen to know if they are affected as I have an F25
The suspicion is that the F cars are not being targeted purely as they are still too new and as yet there is not a sufficient demand for the parts.
Give it another 12 months or so and it could be a different story by then.

I don't think there is as yet, an true comfirmation that they are not able to be taken in the same way.




CMOS

32 posts

140 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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crazy about cars

4,454 posts

169 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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CMOS said:
yes

I've posted on another thread that I've tried to ask this question to an Official BMW dealership and got shot down saying I have no right to ask such a stupid question.

r999

78 posts

154 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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crazy about cars said:
I've posted on another thread that I've tried to ask this question to an Official BMW dealership and got shot down saying I have no right to ask such a stupid question.
That is truly disgraceful. Perhaps it's time we started naming and shaming dealers, as well as BMW UK, on here. (I would gladly begin, but actually my dealer has been helpful.)

Remember, provided you tell the truth, you cannot be pursued for defamation.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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crazy about cars said:
I have no right to ask such a stupid question.
really? they actually said you have no right to ask a question?

smashy

3,040 posts

158 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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ChiswickBeasty said:
Ok so I live I chiswick London and I have been aware for some time that somebody had been getting into my 1 Series convertible at will. I traded my company car in and bought my own. Same thing happened, it would be rifled through regularly. Then on Saturday night just gone it got nicked. No signs of anything being smashed. Police have been warning people for some time on the local sign posts. I had intended to get a krooklock.

I actually think this cloud has a silver lining for me, I lost my car but should hopefully get most of the money back, surely BMW insurance premiums will soon rocket, and so the resale value of these cars will drop and they will be practically worthless.

BMW are no doubt putting their head in the sand hoping this goes away, but soon it'll catch up on them. I have had BMs for 5 years. No more. It's just not worth it. Cash down the drain. Moving to a nice low profile VW I think.

Will save the money for track days.

Totally gutted And fell massively let down by BMW. Never again.
Hello Chiswick,I live in Chiswick as well.

Did you see this?

http://www.chiswickw4.com/default.asp?section=info...


Look closely the police have even kindly got a BMW roundel on the notice just to make sure you know they are talking about BMWs not other marques (see that BMW NOT other makes!!!!!)

My 1 series has been rifled more than once as well ,I thought I was going mad till I saw this thread.

angrybird

7 posts

140 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2012
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According to the police who I spoke to about an update of my stolen BMW is that BMW initially asked them to keep the thefts quiet and provided them with sting cars to try and catch the thieves but clearly this hasn't worked!
Since my car got stolen 2 weeks ago I have heard of 3 others going in the same way, all X5's and all black