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Tyrewrecker
6,419 posts
24 months
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Helicopter123 said: Is anyone actually getting out of a BMW as a result of this? Yeah most whether they like it or not!
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MadAdMan
30 posts
11 months
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Tyrewrecker said: Yeah most whether they like it or not! Just had mine back and its OBD disabled + fully armed - but after 2 attempts is it worth all the extra hassel? (BMW Head of tech at the dealership confirmed they do know and even eluded to BMW internally are trying to work up a lockable port cover for the new model while lobbying the eu for a change in the legislation re universal access to obd port) if i could find a X5 M sport 7 seat alternative , it wouldn't take much for me to switch a gain a little extra piece of mind..
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nick30
122 posts
41 months
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have any of the new F20 1 series been stolen in this way? 
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Guvernator
2,833 posts
35 months
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MadAdMan said: BMW internally are trying to work up a lockable port cover for the new model while lobbying the eu for a change in the legislation re universal access to obd port I just knew BMW would try to use this to try to get the legislation changed. The legislation is NOT the issue, this is BMW's f**k up plain and simple but they've now got the perfect excuse to fudge the issue, blame it on the odb regulations and stop local indies from having access to it in the name of security. Bye Bye cheap servicing!
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Pesty
26,137 posts
126 months
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Guvernator said: MadAdMan said: BMW internally are trying to work up a lockable port cover for the new model while lobbying the eu for a change in the legislation re universal access to obd port I just knew BMW would try to use this to try to get the legislation changed. The legislation is NOT the issue, this is BMW's f**k up plain and simple but they've now got the perfect excuse to fudge the issue, blame it on the odb regulations and stop local indies from having access to it in the name of security. Bye Bye cheap servicing! Exactly Not just local indies. I now have an OBD reader which I bout for £29. It saves me £70 and probably more in repairs just by being able to look up a code. This is BMW trying to use their f  k up and use it to fleece us for money at the dealers.
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bigandclever
6,406 posts
108 months
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Helicopter123 said: Is anyone actually getting out of a BMW as a result of this? Don't know - but it's stopping me getting into one, and I expect that will worry BMW more (not because of me specifically, obviously!)
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jacktoyou
69 posts
40 months
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My 330 vert was pinched just before Christmas - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...I was at a loss as to how they took it but it's obviously a lot clearer now. Obviously got my insurance payout - less to what I paid (GAP is a must next time) but it still affects your NCB, premiums etc. Do I want another BMW? Would love one but I am just too worried about leaving it every night. I live in the East End - where from reading some the posts on here seems to be a hot spot? If I do decide to bite the bullet and risk another...what tracker (are they worth the investment?) and additional steps do the experts on here recommend? Or do I just opt for an Audi or Merc?
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gizard
1,966 posts
153 months
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I have just put a deposit down on a 2012 M3 - amoungst other things I asked if they were aware of the OBD port issue to which the sales person replied they were not.... I am aware of the issue however and the car has a tracker and I will be tacking out GAP insurance and do some OBD port trickry.
I am considering getting a discloc too for when I park the car in a more risky place (i.e. not at home or the private car park at work) but I have heard that they can damage the wheel - has anyone got first hand expirence of using a discloc with an e9x M3 wheel with paddles?
cheers
G.
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t8cmf
213 posts
30 months
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gizard said: I have just put a deposit down on a 2012 M3 - amoungst other things I asked if they were aware of the OBD port issue to which the sales person replied they were not.... I am aware of the issue however and the car has a tracker and I will be tacking out GAP insurance and do some OBD port trickry.
I am considering getting a discloc too for when I park the car in a more risky place (i.e. not at home or the private car park at work) but I have heard that they can damage the wheel - has anyone got first hand expirence of using a discloc with an e9x M3 wheel with paddles?
cheers
G. Firstly, kudos to you for buying the car you want and not letting this issue dictate what car you drive. I have a Disclok for my E92 M3 (manual though) and don't have an issue with steering wheel dents. I modified my OBD port and so I don't use it all the time, only in areas that aren't my garage or secure work car park. There are some upset owners on M3Cutters that have dents appearing on their wheels. Make sure you get the Disclok storage bag as well (£10) as it velcros to your boot floor giving you a secure storage space for it. It's better than it whacking you around the back of the head in an accident.
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eastsider
680 posts
93 months
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jacktoyou said: Do I want another BMW? Would love one but I am just too worried about leaving it every night. I live in the East End - where from reading some the posts on here seems to be a hot spot? My E60 535d was taken in April (mile end). I wouldn't buy another modern BMW whilst living in the East End, or anywhere in London for that matter - unless you've got secure off street parking for overnight. Get an Audi, merc etc, or as I did revert to an older BMW (back to an E39 now) with a proper key!!
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CMOS
32 posts
10 months
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My 61 plate 3 series was lifted last Saturday. Same issue, window, OBD port. Gone in 90 seconds. BMW couldn't give a toss. They are 'Unaware' of the issue. So I called 5 BMW Authorised dealers in various parts of the county. ALL were aware of this and BMW are "Looking in to it".
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gizard
1,966 posts
153 months
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Sorry for your loss - where abouts in the country was it stolen from?
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Pesty
26,137 posts
126 months
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CMOS said: BMW couldn't give a toss. They are 'Unaware' of the issue. This is getting silly now. They think owners are retards.
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Mr Whippy
17,994 posts
111 months
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Haha lockable OBD as a proposed solution, or even disabling OBD. So the people stealing cars and avoiding the fancy tech in the keys/ecu with a high level of resourcefulness won't just get around those things too? Despite all the electro-tech the answer in the end is to just put another physical lock on something  Make it operate off a stand alone module that has to be removed to be programmed. Fit it in annoying places inside the car, offer say 10-15 optional locations where it might be placed but only BMW who sell the car know where. A hassle if you forget the code or it goes wrong, but it'd be secure through being too hard to access. Locking OBD is just gonna add to unit prices of the car, make after-market work harder and so hurt residual value/resale appeal later in life, and is STILL going to be avoided easily by those in the know. Dave
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crazy about cars
2,383 posts
39 months
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Enquiring about a 2011 E92 M3 and tried to ask about this and nearly got my head bit off. Apparently this is all unconfirmed rumours and have nothing to do with BMW.
Still, I always wanted an M3...just not sure how much I want it now...
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Mr Whippy
17,994 posts
111 months
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Super simple solution if you really are worried.
Get an auto-electrician to snip a key OBD wire and simply add a small hidden in-line switch pushed up behind the dash somewhere.
People do these DIY kinda things to all their cars. I remember the old Daihatsu Fourtrak things were really easy to nick, so most people with them had a fuel pump cut-off switch under the seat or in the coin tray or something like that. Finding these 'unique' work-arounds makes life hard for criminals.
Cripes, even put a switch on the tank pump 12v feed, plenty of places to hide that and they won't get anywhere without that working. Probably the last thing they'll think is switched/broken too as it won't run with the immo active iirc, so they will just be sat thinking their de-immo hasn't worked, or key copy, or whatever else...
Dave
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MadAdMan
30 posts
11 months
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[quote=gizard]I have just put a deposit down on a 2012 M3 - amoungst other things I asked if they were aware of the OBD port issue to which the sales person replied they were not.... I am aware of the issue however and the car has a tracker and I will be tacking out GAP insurance and do some OBD port trickry. I am considering getting a discloc too for when I park the car in a more risky place (i.e. not at home or the private car park at work) but I have heard that they can damage the wheel - has anyone got first hand expirence of using a discloc with an e9x M3 wheel with paddles? cheers Call these guys http://www.securemycar.co.uk they have a custom work around  tracker is a waste of time you need to know its gone to activate and then its easily jammed, alt trackers direct to your mobile will tell you if car is moved. re Disklock YES the silver one will leave a small dent in the steering wheel especially and M wheel (it does on mine) but it will act as a small deterrent and slow them by another min if they get past everything else. best of luck
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D_G
1,423 posts
79 months
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gizard said: I have just put a deposit down on a 2012 M3 - amoungst other things I asked if they were aware of the OBD port issue to which the sales person replied they were not.... I am aware of the issue however and the car has a tracker and I will be tacking out GAP insurance and do some OBD port trickry.
I am considering getting a discloc too for when I park the car in a more risky place (i.e. not at home or the private car park at work) but I have heard that they can damage the wheel - has anyone got first hand expirence of using a discloc with an e9x M3 wheel with paddles?
cheers
G. Disklocks do leave a small indent but it comes out again once it's removed in a few hours, ideally you'd garage the car overnight and leave it off.
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gizard
1,966 posts
153 months
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MadAdMan said: Call these guys http://www.securemycar.co.uk they have a custom work around tracker is a waste of time you need to know its gone to activate and then its easily jammed, alt trackers direct to your mobile will tell you if car is moved. re Disklock YES the silver one will leave a small dent in the steering wheel especially and M wheel (it does on mine) but it will act as a small deterrent and slow them by another min if they get past everything else. best of luck I have had a look at this - I know there are many options etc. but what is the rough cost and affect on warranty? - re the tracker I completly agree - i hate them but if I want the car insured against theft then I have to have it..... cheers G.
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Tea Pot One
1,342 posts
98 months
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crazy about cars said: Enquiring about a 2011 E92 M3 and tried to ask about this and nearly got my head bit off. Apparently this is all unconfirmed rumours and have nothing to do with BMW. It is not unconfirmed ... whoever said this to you is talking rubbish. The police are well aware of the extent of the problem .
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