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Zod

26,236 posts

141 months

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Saturday 29th September 2012 quote quote all
Ok. New X5 40d ordered for November delivery. Will be parked off the street behind a locked gate. Good deal. Will replace in a couple of years when the new model arrives.

We will have had a free X5 40d M Sport from BMW for four and a half months by the time the new one arrives. They have treated us well. I think they've also learned a lesson.

Krisbiker2

23 posts

24 months

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Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Robmarriott said:
Has anyone completed a 'hard' fix for this yet?

I want to buy a 535d touring early next year as I can't think of anything even close to being as good for the job as it.

I don't want to to BMW to get a software fix which someone will find a way to circumvent.

So... Wiring fix?
Lots of people early on (myself included- took about 1 hr) added switches to obd wiring or moved the socket, see earlier posts

tonker

46,601 posts

131 months

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Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
Zod said:
Ok. New X5 40d ordered for November delivery. Will be parked off the street behind a locked gate. Good deal. Will replace in a couple of years when the new model arrives.

We will have had a free X5 40d M Sport from BMW for four and a half months by the time the new one arrives. They have treated us well. I think they've also learned a lesson.
Diesel ? Will your wife accept dagga dagga long term ?


Zod

26,236 posts

141 months

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Monday 1st October 2012 quote quote all
tonker said:
Zod said:
Ok. New X5 40d ordered for November delivery. Will be parked off the street behind a locked gate. Good deal. Will replace in a couple of years when the new model arrives.

We will have had a free X5 40d M Sport from BMW for four and a half months by the time the new one arrives. They have treated us well. I think they've also learned a lesson.
Diesel ? Will your wife accept dagga dagga long term ?
She wanted it! She's been driving the BMW-supplied one for two and a half months and likes the range it gives.

To be honest, it's not that much slower in the real world than the petrol one, so I can live with it.

Reardy Mister

11,292 posts

105 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Reardy Mister said:
Just received this from my insurer.


[i]Dear Reardy Mister,


You may have seen in the news recently that some BMW car models are unfortunately affected by a security flaw. As a customer and owner of a BMW we wanted to make you aware of this so you can take the necessary precautions and help prevent thefts of BMWs.

BMW has advised that the security breach only affects models which were built from 2006 to September 2011.

The security flaw lies with the electronic key. A device now exists which enables its user to access a car's on-board computer and program a blank key. In the wrong hands, a thief can steal a BMW in just a few minutes using the device.

How you can reduce the threat of car theft:

BMW has announced that they will offer a free upgrade of security features for cars affected. Therefore we would recommend that you contact your BMW service department or your nearest BMW dealer who will be able to advise you further.

Visit the BMW website to find out more.

Yours sincerely
swiftcover.com[/i]

The fuss we made as a motoring community has no doubt helped, we should be pleased about that. It does make me wonder what my insurers actual position is on it now. If I don't take it because my local stealer intends to charge a fortune, will they consider that I didn't take enough steps to protect my car?



Edited by Reardy Mister on Wednesday 26th September 09:11
Called my dealer regarding this. The response was "At the moment we have not been told of any software update avaialble for your vehicle. At this stage we are only performing upgrades to X5s and X6s. BMW are working on it and if anything else comes out, we will be contacting people."

I asked if that was the case for all dealers and she said yes.

So, according to my local service centre, there is nothing available for my 2008 325i coupe.

confused
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garyhun

15,843 posts

111 months

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Tuesday 2nd October 2012 quote quote all
Reardy Mister said:
Called my dealer regarding this. The response was "At the moment we have not been told of any software update avaialble for your vehicle. At this stage we are only performing upgrades to X5s and X6s. BMW are working on it and if anything else comes out, we will be contacting people."

I asked if that was the case for all dealers and she said yes.

So, according to my local service centre, there is nothing available for my 2008 325i coupe.

confused
I asked my dealer about my 2011 Z4. Same situation. I took it to mean something will become available at a later date - month or 2 was how I read it.

Belliio

12 posts

83 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
garyhun said:
Reardy Mister said:
Called my dealer regarding this. The response was "At the moment we have not been told of any software update avaialble for your vehicle. At this stage we are only performing upgrades to X5s and X6s. BMW are working on it and if anything else comes out, we will be contacting people."

I asked if that was the case for all dealers and she said yes.

So, according to my local service centre, there is nothing available for my 2008 325i coupe.

confused
I asked my dealer about my 2011 Z4. Same situation. I took it to mean something will become available at a later date - month or 2 was how I read it.
Which dealer said that Garyhun? My dealer told me 6 weeks for my BM as HQ had not released it on other models yet. From this forum it seems that if you are between Mar 07 - Sep 11 you will need an update!

garyhun

15,843 posts

111 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Belliio said:
Which dealer said that Garyhun? My dealer told me 6 weeks for my BM as HQ had not released it on other models yet. From this forum it seems that if you are between Mar 07 - Sep 11 you will need an update!
Wood BMW, Bournemouth. Booked the car in for a service last week and asked at the time - servie manager said that there would be an update and BMW would be in touch when available.

nvm

23 posts

34 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
these have already started selling well. 1 series version to be released very soon.

moving the obd can void warranty and also cause future MOT issues!

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?p=852...
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=40...

Pre - order now by sending us an e-mail sales@nvmotorsport.com

Fit and forget, we found impossible to gain access to the OBD even with tools with just the window open.

nvm

23 posts

34 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
I beliee the X5 and X6 have been updated for door door security. If i am right the big BMWs had a flaw in the door lock like the old golfs and leons.

We can test whether they have stopped the EDILOCK programmer if anyone wants to pop down to us.

Timbola

303 posts

23 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
S Works said:
Disklok is a minor inconvenience but a great visual FRO! to potential scrotes. Downside is that it may mark the leather wheel. All said, I'd rather have a marked wheel and my car than broken window and or worse.
I was concerned with this when I started using a Disklok on my 135i.

As a result, I popped into my local DIY store, picked up some one-sided adhesive foam padding (often used to pad doors/doorways against draughts ...), cut that into strips and affixed them to the inside of the Disklok.

No more marking of the wheel or making indents into the rubber. Works a treat.

Tea Pot One

1,460 posts

111 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
The slight indentation you get from the disclok goes after a day of the disklok being left off ... the mark is not permanent ...

hus882

83 posts

44 months

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Wednesday 3rd October 2012 quote quote all
Re Disklock - may sound a bit odd, but I get an old pillowcase slide it over the steering wheel and then fit the thing. Works fine & no risk of any scuffs or marks.

eastsider

766 posts

106 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
nvm said:
I beliee the X5 and X6 have been updated for door door security. If i am right the big BMWs had a flaw in the door lock like the old golfs and leons.

We can test whether they have stopped the EDILOCK programmer if anyone wants to pop down to us.
Mate of mine has an X5 that was updated earlier this week. I was interested to hear that the dealer had to remove a speaker he has installed in the passenger footwell to access a socket on that side (was what they told him). Clearly there is more to this "update" than just plugging into the OBD for a few hours - anyone shed any light on that?

(Cheeky fkers tried to charge him £90 labour to remove 4 screws and lift the speaker out - he told them where to shove that!)

Cheib

8,763 posts

58 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
eastsider said:
nvm said:
I beliee the X5 and X6 have been updated for door door security. If i am right the big BMWs had a flaw in the door lock like the old golfs and leons.

We can test whether they have stopped the EDILOCK programmer if anyone wants to pop down to us.
Mate of mine has an X5 that was updated earlier this week. I was interested to hear that the dealer had to remove a speaker he has installed in the passenger footwell to access a socket on that side (was what they told him). Clearly there is more to this "update" than just plugging into the OBD for a few hours - anyone shed any light on that?

(Cheeky fkers tried to charge him £90 labour to remove 4 screws and lift the speaker out - he told them where to shove that!)
Well mine has been in and certainly took a while....it was in overnight.

chivdog

2 posts

21 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
It is my first time posting to this board. I thought I might share my story: on Tuesday morning my wife called to ask me where I had parked our Oct. 2010 (60 plate) 320d M sport, sure enough it had been lifted. We have both of our keys and we suspect the key has been cloned via the obd. I live in Kensington and Chelsea and have heard from a friend of at least one other BMW being stolen (an M5) in our area using this method. I only became aware of this security flaw after my vehicle was stolen. When I called BMW UK to notify them of the theft I mentioned that the security issues will have an impact on whether or not I buy another BMW (what was Einstein's definition of stupidity again?). The chap on the phone acknowledged this and assured me that models manufactured after September 2011 are not affected because they have the "enhanced" security package. I asked him what he meant by this, he responded by saying that whilst he cannot go into too much detail the "enhanced" security does not change the manner in which keys can be cloned through the obd but rather is focussed on increasing the security preventing access to the vehicle in the first place. In otherwords, the alarm/immobilser seems to be the only thing that is being improved. Onthis basis, unfortunately, I don't think I'll be buying another BMW (new or otherwise).

thegreatdogwood

231 posts

80 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
My E70 is going in on Monday so will see if I can shed any light on what they do

gcpeters

651 posts

115 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
nvm said:
these have already started selling well. 1 series version to be released very soon.

moving the obd can void warranty and also cause future MOT issues!

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?p=852...
http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=40...

Pre - order now by sending us an e-mail sales@nvmotorsport.com

Fit and forget, we found impossible to gain access to the OBD even with tools with just the window open.
hmm, don't think im convinced

you can just rip the plastic panel off where that ODB cover goes to by leaning in through the window, admittedly your going to do some damage as the bonnet release is screwed in but then your good to go!

just my view!

GP

smashy

483 posts

41 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
chivdog said:
It is my first time posting to this board. I thought I might share my story: on Tuesday morning my wife called to ask me where I had parked our Oct. 2010 (60 plate) 320d M sport, sure enough it had been lifted. We have both of our keys and we suspect the key has been cloned via the obd. I live in Kensington and Chelsea and have heard from a friend of at least one other BMW being stolen (an M5) in our area using this method. I only became aware of this security flaw after my vehicle was stolen. When I called BMW UK to notify them of the theft I mentioned that the security issues will have an impact on whether or not I buy another BMW (what was Einstein's definition of stupidity again?). The chap on the phone acknowledged this and assured me that models manufactured after September 2011 are not affected because they have the "enhanced" security package. I asked him what he meant by this, he responded by saying that whilst he cannot go into too much detail the "enhanced" security does not change the manner in which keys can be cloned through the obd but rather is focussed on increasing the security preventing access to the vehicle in the first place. In otherwords, the alarm/immobilser seems to be the only thing that is being improved. Onthis basis, unfortunately, I don't think I'll be buying another BMW (new or otherwise).
Hello Chiv ,first off ,tough for you .

Point 2 ,If that is all they have done what a sad state of affairs ,I was looking forward to an F30 330d mmmmmmmm what on earth shall I get now? Lets face it the BMW Diesel Engine whatever size is the best out there by quite a margin for performance and economy.


Edited by smashy on Friday 5th October 14:11

sinizter

3,348 posts

69 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
A large part of the problem (or pretty much all of it) was that the alarm wasn't sensitive enough, allowing practically unlimited access to the OBD port, once the window was dealt with.

If the alarm has been made sensitive enough, that problem has been solved.

As for cloning keys once you have access to the OBD port, the same thing can be done for pretty much every other car out there.

So, why are people avoiding getting a newer BMW ? I just want to understand your perspective on it.

For me, the concern has been dealt with. So I would personally get another one if it came to that, although I might spend a year or two in some other manufacturer car for a change - but not because of this issue.


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