New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys

[Fox-]

28i said:

I will stand corrected, but they did say it was not only the the earlier models but also later than 2011. my hearing may not be as it was years ago. :-)

I believe this is because there are a few models of the old generation still in production until very recently, for example X6 and X1.

Nobody has been able to categorically state the F Series cars are affected by this.

[28i]

Still, whatchdog did make it easy letting the "thief" access an open car.
Still think the alarm sound is next to useless.

[Billyray911]

28i said:

I will stand corrected, but they did say it was not only the the earlier models but also later than 2011. my hearing may not be as it was years ago. :-)

At least try and read some of this thread before repeating information that you appear to know little or nothing about.If you're not sure,just ask...
As I said (and I was trying to be helpful) the article was slightly misleading and it has obviously had that effect on you.
The hardware has been available for a long time that will allow the theft of the F series.
There is also a well known 'dead' area that is not covered by the alarm sensors that effectively allows the window to be smashed without triggering the alarm.You can then access the OBD and reprogram a blank key without triggering the alarm.
That's the crude method of entry...

[AndyHCZ]

Trust me, all new BMWs are affected - there are plenty of Youtube videos out there showing how to do it.

[TheEnd]

Could you find one then?

[thegreatdogwood]

28i said:

Still, whatchdog did make it easy letting the "thief" access an open car.
Still think the alarm sound is next to useless.

Think I also read somewhere that there is a blind spot on the alarm too whereby you can get to the drivers foot-well without setting the alarm off anyway

[Cheib]

FazerBoy said:

Cheib said:

Munter said:

Those with the unique security feature of being undesireable....

Given I park on the street in London I am quite happy that my X5 is seven years old.

That's pretty desirable in Africa....

Sure but so are the newer RR's and X5's that park within 100 yards of me. At least that's what I hope!

[Fox-]

AndyHCZ said:

Trust me, all new BMWs are affected - there are plenty of Youtube videos out there showing how to do it.

Nobody seems to have come forward and said they've had one pinched in this way though whereas many have with the old style system. The videos prove nothing as they don't demonstrate it can be done completely independently on a locked car.

[Tea Pot One]

I think it was telling that the 2012 X6 took 12 minutes yet the Evoque took 10 seconds !! Naughty of Watchdog not to make a bit more of this ... All manufacturers suffer but BMW are doing something if it takes 12 mins vs 10 seconds !!

[j80jpw]

thegreatdogwood said:

28i said:

Still, whatchdog did make it easy letting the "thief" access an open car.
Still think the alarm sound is next to useless.

Think I also read somewhere that there is a blind spot on the alarm too whereby you can get to the drivers foot-well without setting the alarm off anyway

There most definitely is, mine was taken from under my open bedroom window, the alarm certainly didn't sound, my dog also sleeps by the front door and barks at the slightest of noises normally. The aftermarket alarm fitted to my Vauxhall Nova in the 90's (Clifford) puts BMW's shower of shi*# to shame!

[BullyB]

I have had a Viper alarm fitted that sounds a warning if anybody stands next to the front windows, designed especially for that BMW blind spot.

It got a few trick/treaters last night as they came past the car on the drive

[AndyHCZ]

Fox- said:

Nobody seems to have come forward and said they've had one pinched in this way though whereas many have with the old style system. The videos prove nothing as they don't demonstrate it can be done completely independently on a locked car.

They are either using jammers (so you think you've locked your car when in fact you haven't) or there are now tools available that allow you copy/replicate a key fob for locking/unlocking a car:

http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.php/touch-keyles...

This is what people are selling that they claim to work on all Fxx series BMWs

http://www.kapdiagnostics.com/index.php/bn013-key-...

[j80jpw]

There must be a lot of blank keys disappearing from somewhere? It wouldn't be a cheap item for a would be theif to knock up so these must be coming from BMW? Or can any old key be reprogrammed over and over?

[TheEnd]

AndyHCZ said:

They are either using jammers (so you think you've locked your car when in fact you haven't) or there are now tools available that allow you copy/replicate a key fob for locking/unlocking a car:

http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.php/touch-keyles...

This is what people are selling that they claim to work on all Fxx series BMWs

http://www.kapdiagnostics.com/index.php/bn013-key-...

That's key preparation from a CAS4 dump, the CAS needs to be removed from the car, opened up and read with a CAS BDM programmer, it isn't through the diagnostic port.

[Fox-]

AndyHCZ said:

They are either using jammers (so you think you've locked your car when in fact you haven't) or there are now tools available that allow you copy/replicate a key fob for locking/unlocking a car:

http://www.keyprogtools.com/index.php/touch-keyles...

This is what people are selling that they claim to work on all Fxx series BMWs

http://www.kapdiagnostics.com/index.php/bn013-key-...

You are not going to be getting that to work on a locked car in somebodies driveway at 3am though, which is the crucial difference.

[Mr Bimmer]

AndyHCZ said:

Trust me, all new BMWs are affected - there are plenty of Youtube videos out there showing how to do it.

So. Any links to these videos. ??

[DanL]

Mr Bimmer said:

So. Any links to these videos. ??

Visiting YouTube and typing in program key brings back a number of suggestions... Took literally 5 seconds to find this.

http://youtu.be/5DaXKrf3_48

[Mr Bimmer]

DanL said:

Visiting YouTube and typing in program key brings back a number of suggestions... Took literally 5 seconds to find this.

http://youtu.be/5DaXKrf3_48

I can't see any new BMWs being stolen in that link. Plenty of Jags. Audi's and Range Rovers though.

Edited by Mr Bimmer on Sunday 2nd November 09:14

[DanL]

http://youtu.be/RLWyA5phe5E

From the same company

[Fox-]

DanL said:

http://youtu.be/RLWyA5phe5E

From the same company

Yet another E Series car..... thats an E70 X5. Not an F Series.