New BMW's getting stolen using blank BMW keys
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Planned confusion in my opinion. From what I can work out it is up to the individual dealer if they have the common decency to offer the upgrade. Its not a blanket directive from BMW UK to carry out security upgrades as it should be, which would of course mean admitting an issue exists.
richleeds said:
Seems to be a bit of confusion over this...
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74409...
My 2010 F11 has been booked in by my dealer for the update next week. Said it *does* apply to F10/11's built before sept 2011. Not sure why some dealers are saying it doesn't affect F models. You would think this isn't a difficult thing to communicate clearly pretty poor by BMW and their dealer network, total confusion.
Quote from that link:http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74409...
My 2010 F11 has been booked in by my dealer for the update next week. Said it *does* apply to F10/11's built before sept 2011. Not sure why some dealers are saying it doesn't affect F models. You would think this isn't a difficult thing to communicate clearly pretty poor by BMW and their dealer network, total confusion.
BMW said:
After extensive research we are clear that none of our latest models - new 1 Series Hatch, 3 Series, 5 Series, 6 Series and 7 Series - nor any other BMW built after September 2011 can be stolen using this method.
It's a pre 2011 E Series thing - so an 11 plate 320d is affected but an 11 plate 520d is not. The key system on the F series cars is completely different.Tonberry said:
My E91 is going in for a security update tomorrow.
Does it actually do anything now they've had 3 years to perfect it?
Not sure to be honest. I asked if mine had been done, the guy at the dealer took my key, put it in the lock, turned it left and right, the windows went down. He said mine had been doneDoes it actually do anything now they've had 3 years to perfect it?
FurryExocet said:
Not sure to be honest. I asked if mine had been done, the guy at the dealer took my key, put it in the lock, turned it left and right, the windows went down. He said mine had been done
Part of the patch is to stop this (window rolling) feature.This is because the locks are vulnerable to having items ie a screwdriver rammed into the lock.When you rotate the lock,the windows roll down.The patch stops the windows from dropping.You can still enable the window drop from the key-remotely. Any Indy with Autologic can disable this feature.It took about 5 minutes on my car and was free as I was having other work done.
Another part of the patch is another layer of immobilisation,to stop key cloning.Basically,some cars allow the addition of a blank key,using a key coding device.This can be coded to your car via the obd and stolen.This stops that.Possibly!
Newer cars with keyless tech are vulnerable to having the codes copied remotely and cars stolen.I believe that there is a patch for this,but black market tech matches the patches,so I would advise 3rd party security...
Furry,from what you're saying,it doesn't sound like your car as been done,so I would confirm.
So it looks like the scum may have cracked the F series security now....
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=2&a...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=2&a...
j80jpw said:
So it looks like the scum may have cracked the F series security now....
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=2&a...
Sorry to hear that. Car theft is a very upsetting crime. I am surprised BMW have not found a way to prevent this. Best of luck to the owner who had his car nicked!http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=2&a...
farbbm said:
Just received a text from my dealer saying that my 07 X5 needs to go back in for another security update.
I am sorry to hear that a further update is needed? Begs the question as to how effective these upgrades are to the vehicle security? There are pretty knowledgeable contributors on here who clearly have first hand knowledge of the set up and corrections required. Hopefully someone will comment accordingly. Car theft is a very damaging crime a precious possession dissapears which may be quite irreplaceable. I do hope you get this sorted out. One of two neighbours have had this problem and indeed with the latest Range Rovers as well as BMW's. All of these have now fitted seriously good quality additional alarms. They maintain peace of mind makes this necessary for them. Certainly worth checking out I think. None of these vehicles have gone missing post additional alarms. Regrettably some did before. Insurances have paid out. Just a thought!
It seems that the only way of providing reliable security is to go back to the old days of the manufacturer's providing not-a-lot and you going to Halfords and getting a decent alarm for a couple of hundred quid.
It is an obvious security breech that all similar cars have the same security features. Variety of security features is the way to go. Then the scrotes don't know how to attack you without them doing some serious homework. Even a unique secret button is better than a common set-up that is known to anyone with an internet connection.
It is an obvious security breech that all similar cars have the same security features. Variety of security features is the way to go. Then the scrotes don't know how to attack you without them doing some serious homework. Even a unique secret button is better than a common set-up that is known to anyone with an internet connection.
MOVE YOUR ODB PORT AND PUT A DUMMY THERE.
It's a 10 minute job and the dummy port costs about 2 quid. It's basically an unwired port with the cover. I know there is the argument that you should not need to do that, but you do, so do it if you don't want your car pinched or you don't want a crook lock then do it.
It's a 10 minute job and the dummy port costs about 2 quid. It's basically an unwired port with the cover. I know there is the argument that you should not need to do that, but you do, so do it if you don't want your car pinched or you don't want a crook lock then do it.
Depends on the car, but 61136954580 covers most.
Mine lives in the panel under the steering column (I don't have a dummy one)- I no longer bother moving it back either when I take the car into the dealer.
Moving it does really take about 5 minutes - unscrew and remove the bonnet handle, then lift up the trim around the door seal, then pull the side panel off. There are DIYs with pictures on other forums.
Mine lives in the panel under the steering column (I don't have a dummy one)- I no longer bother moving it back either when I take the car into the dealer.
Moving it does really take about 5 minutes - unscrew and remove the bonnet handle, then lift up the trim around the door seal, then pull the side panel off. There are DIYs with pictures on other forums.
paulmoonraker said:
MOVE YOUR ODB PORT AND PUT A DUMMY THERE.
It's a 10 minute job and the dummy port costs about 2 quid. It's basically an unwired port with the cover. I know there is the argument that you should not need to do that, but you do, so do it if you don't want your car pinched or you don't want a crook lock then do it.
Here you go: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=741...It's a 10 minute job and the dummy port costs about 2 quid. It's basically an unwired port with the cover. I know there is the argument that you should not need to do that, but you do, so do it if you don't want your car pinched or you don't want a crook lock then do it.
10 minute job. I forget thier name, but the Indy in Chelmsford got me the part.
pingu393 said:
Would the scroats not think that something was up when they plug into the dummy and get NOTHING, or do they get a message saying something like "Unable to connect to vehicle", which is a genuine possible fault with OBD coms?
They would need to then open the door to rummage for it, which would then set the alarm off...Spotted this article on stolen Range Rovers in Brum slightly off topic, relating to Range Rovers, but good to see car theives being punished
see: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news...
Well worth while taking all the available precautions, I think?
Car theft is a nasty crime and any reduction in risk must be good for drivers.
see: http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news...
Well worth while taking all the available precautions, I think?
Car theft is a nasty crime and any reduction in risk must be good for drivers.
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