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joylove
12 posts
42 months
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Still no national coverage? Crazy!
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ArsE92
16,950 posts
56 months
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BE57 TOY said: Anyone care to scan the page in? Hope it's readable. Nicked it from e90post. 
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VERN UK
133 posts
13 months
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joylove said: Still no national coverage? Crazy! I would say Auto Express mag is national?......the whole issue and knowledge will now spread much quicker.....
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VERN UK
133 posts
13 months
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Picture made me laugh.....dash of an uneffected car F10/11 5 series.......
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tonker
43,765 posts
117 months
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VERN UK said: Picture made me laugh.....dash of an uneffected car F10/11 5 series....... Are they actually unaffected though - there is evidence on here that a new 7 series F car has gone this way - and presumably the electronic gubbins will be the same on the F10/11...... I did ask but no-one seems to definitively know, though I do note none of the thefts I've read about have been F10/11s.... which is good (selfishly, for me).
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VERN UK
133 posts
13 months
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tonker said: Are they actually unaffected though - there is evidence on here that a new 7 series F car has gone this way - and presumably the electronic gubbins will be the same on the F10/11...... I did ask but no-one seems to definitively know, though I do note none of the thefts I've read about have been F10/11s.... which is good (selfishly, for me). TBH Tonka that's how I had based my opinion......not read about any F series thefts, missed the 7 series one..... Good for me too selfishly, although just swapped from an F10 530d to F11 530d.... I have owned 6 E series cars in the past though, and a few in the family currently so trying to keep up to speed
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NelsonR32
617 posts
40 months
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My dealer has had two F series 7 series models nicked (or rather their customer has)
The article seemed to not want to suggest it was BMW's only (perhaps covering their own arses?)
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Marshy
2,690 posts
153 months
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richtea78 said: I am not sure BMW are responsible for the security flaw, you could argue that the thieves would find a way somehow Yes try are: it's a broken-headed design, not a flaw in the implementation.
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VERN UK
133 posts
13 months
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NelsonR32 said: My dealer has had two F series 7 series models nicked (or rather their customer has)
The article seemed to not want to suggest it was BMW's only (perhaps covering their own arses?) Nelson were these the same MO or a key job as I think.....I.E someone already had a spare key for them?
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BE57 TOY
799 posts
16 months
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ArsE92 said: Hope it's readable. Nicked it from e90post. Thanks. Worked perfectly. Glad to see its getting into the public domain.
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Cheib
6,177 posts
44 months
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If/when BMW come up with a solution for this it's going to be a massive friggin job to get it sorted...BMW sell 100,000 cars a year in the UK and this problem impacts roughly the last five years production so 500,000 cars. BMW has circa 150 dealers so that's over 3,000 cars.....if the solution is a software update which normally seems to be an overnight job I think most dealers can deal with two or three cars each day.
They certainly won't say anything official....it would just be utter chaos.....maybe they'll try and update cars when they're in for a service ?!?!
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AndyM31
803 posts
74 months
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OK, chaps,
A little update regarding the current state of affairs, I live in central London and have just had a Community Support Police Officer come around the street checking all the BMW's with forensic gloves checking doors. He clearly said that there are elevated number of these vehicles been stolen.
I called BMW and they say that this subject is under internal investigation and that they do not have a time frame for the results. So we have change of heart from saying that there is no issue to now having an internal investigation. What they say is refer to the dealer if concerns but then the dealer refers to HQ. That farce is still going on. It was only until I told them that I had the PCSO had been around that they said the issue is under internal investigation.
I am aware that there are schools of thought that say that BMW is responsible and not but the case is that something more concrete should be coming from them about this issue.
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Steffan
6,182 posts
97 months
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AndyM31 said: OK, chaps,
A little update regarding the current state of affairs, I live in central London and have just had a Community Support Police Officer come around the street checking all the BMW's with forensic gloves checking doors. He clearly said that there are elevated number of these vehicles been stolen.
I called BMW and they say that this subject is under internal investigation and that they do not have a time frame for the results. So we have change of heart from saying that there is no issue to now having an internal investigation. What they say is refer to the dealer if concerns but then the dealer refers to HQ. That farce is still going on. It was only until I told them that I had the PCSO had been around that they said the issue is under internal investigation.
I am aware that there are schools of thought that say that BMW is responsible and not but the case is that something more concrete should be coming from them about this issue. Good to hear the Police are at least attempting some action. It suggest to me that the repeated instances of keyless entry recorded in good faith on PH, and elsewhere, has caused the police to look to see how that could be done and therefore look to see if there is evidence of tampering on cars as yet not stolen. I do think constant daily exposure, in the media, is the way to get action from BMW. The "we are thinking about it" bland obfuscation must be driving the owners mad. # I really am sorry for the owners: having lost many cars to thieves years ago, I never wish to experience that gutted feeling and feeling of violation again. Good luck to them all.
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eastsider
617 posts
92 months
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I have now sold my car and I'm very glad to see the back of it. Have 'downgraded' to an E39 (which I'm loving so far) and put my cash back in the bank. It will be a very long time before I buy any post 2005 BMW again.
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aeropilot
6,999 posts
96 months
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Steffan said: AndyM31 said: OK, chaps,
A little update regarding the current state of affairs, I live in central London and have just had a Community Support Police Officer come around the street checking all the BMW's with forensic gloves checking doors. He clearly said that there are elevated number of these vehicles been stolen.
I called BMW and they say that this subject is under internal investigation and that they do not have a time frame for the results. So we have change of heart from saying that there is no issue to now having an internal investigation. What they say is refer to the dealer if concerns but then the dealer refers to HQ. That farce is still going on. It was only until I told them that I had the PCSO had been around that they said the issue is under internal investigation.
I am aware that there are schools of thought that say that BMW is responsible and not but the case is that something more concrete should be coming from them about this issue. I do think constant daily exposure, in the media, is the way to get action from BMW. The "we are thinking about it" bland obfuscation must be driving the owners mad. #  Especially with BMW as a major London Olympics sponsor providing all the car transportation etc for all the officals etc.
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tonker
43,765 posts
117 months
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I am sure I have just seen a PH event with the strap line "PH, in association with ....." and picture of a BMW underneath - can't find it now, but it would explain why none of the Haymarket stable are running this story.... out of order guys.... if that's the case
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M3333
1,541 posts
83 months
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aeropilot said: Especially with BMW as a major London Olympics sponsor providing all the car transportation etc for all the officals etc. Maybe someone should buy a decoder and some keys then make all the Olympic cars 'disappear' That would be an interesting BMW Press release!
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AndyM31
803 posts
74 months
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M3333 said: aeropilot said: Especially with BMW as a major London Olympics sponsor providing all the car transportation etc for all the officals etc. Maybe someone should buy a decoder and some keys then make all the Olympic cars 'disappear' That would be an interesting BMW Press release! Would be interesting to see if any fall victim although their bright markings might make it hard to hide them.
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Cheib
6,177 posts
44 months
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M3333 said: aeropilot said: Especially with BMW as a major London Olympics sponsor providing all the car transportation etc for all the officals etc. Maybe someone should buy a decoder and some keys then make all the Olympic cars 'disappear' That would be an interesting BMW Press release! I saw a Met Police 12 reg X5 today....perhaps the scum bags could nick that!
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BE57 TOY
799 posts
16 months
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AndyM31 said: Would be interesting to see if any fall victim although their bright markings might make it hard to hide them. I suppose it's only a wrap that can be easily removed?
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