e46 rust

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Patrick Bateman

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174 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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I have rust on both sides of my 330Ci in the area highlighted. It was 'repaired' last year around this time by a local body shop that is the approved repair centre for the local Honda dealer. There are various other spots of rust that have also come back although the ones pictured are the worst by far. Is there any way to go about getting rid of all the rust properly without spending an arm and a leg?

It's an 04 plate as well. irked

dbryder

97 posts

138 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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Did you try taking it to BMW before the last repair?

March '04 and on cars had 12 year paint warranty.

Assuming its not damaged, they would have repaired it for free.

They won't touch it if it's damaged, or had a non BMW repair though frown

Patrick Bateman

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Saturday 26th January 2013
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I didn't realise it at the time. Think I had it in my head that it was only for cars where the bodywork had actually been penetrated.

stevesuk

1,346 posts

182 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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Can't see from the pics whether that's on the wing panel or sill?

If it's on the wing, then you might end up just replacing the panel. My (2002) has rust on driver's side front wheelarch, and a body shop have tried to fix it twice, but it just comes back. Muck and mud gets behind the arch liner, and traps moisture.

The wings bolt on, so it's not the massive job it might seem (but I guess will end up costing a few hundred)

Although if it's on the sill, obviously thats not an option.

Patrick Bateman

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Saturday 26th January 2013
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I've highlighted the second picture showing its location.

E30M3SE

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196 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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The last time it was done did they remove the side skirts and the wings to totally remove all the rust or did they just rub down the visible area and repaint?

Not sure you would get that under the perforation warranty as they'd probably say it was due to stone chips, being located directly behind the front wheels.

Patrick Bateman

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Saturday 26th January 2013
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The latter. There were a few other bits that got done as well, just didn't think it would reappear so quickly.

E30M3SE

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Saturday 26th January 2013
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If its not all totally ground out or cut out it will come back quickly.

Patrick Bateman

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Saturday 26th January 2013
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Can that all get done (removing side skirts and wings) without costing a small fortune?

E30M3SE

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Saturday 26th January 2013
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The skirt is held on with a number of plastic rivets, the wheel arch liner will need to come out too, although you probably want to take this out anyway and clean out all the muck that accumulates behind it from the drain.

The wing is bolted on and will require removal of the front bumper which isn't a massive job, but if you want the rust gone it's the only way to proceed.

If your handy with spanners if you stripped the car down and reassembled it yourself you would save yourself some money.

TX1

2,361 posts

183 months

Saturday 26th January 2013
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Had same problems with my e46, like has been said unless its been done well the rust shall be back in a few months.
To be honest I think you are fighting a lost battle, I ended up changing the front wings however by that time the back ones started to rust so was all in vain.

saleen836

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209 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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Had the same on Mrs Saleen's '51 plate 330, bodyshop we use said they have done a fair few as it is a very common problem and also that the only way to be sure it wont return is to replace the whole wing, quote was between £4-500 to replace a wing.

Patrick Bateman

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Sunday 27th January 2013
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fk sake.

Do e60/e90s have this?

TX1

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183 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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Do not think E90's have this prob, Mercs at that time had rust problems also.
Have your back wheel arches rusted also ?
Reason am asking is you can change the front to non original panels, if I recall cost me about 80 quid each 4 yrs ago.
They are a good fit however you have to make sure that you use a good painter which will cost a bit to spray 2 wings and blend it in.
If I was you I would also post on the Bodywork/Detailing section as you might get some expert advice from there.

stevesuk

1,346 posts

182 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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We have an early E91, one year newer than your E46, and it doesn't have a spot of rust on it (yet!).

The E46 wings bolt on, and you can buy them pre-painted from Ebay. But on a nice car like yours I think I'd want a body shop to do it properly

Patrick Bateman

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Sunday 27th January 2013
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It's the sill that's more of the issue though.

4rephill

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178 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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Patrick Bateman said:
It's the sill that's more of the issue though.
+1 yes

That first picture shows quite severe rust on the sill panel (the long rectangular part), and some bubbling rust under the paint of the front wing.

If the sill (rocker panel), section has rusted from the inside, the only real cure is to have a replacement sill (rocker panel) fitted. The trouble with that is that it appears to only be available as part of a larger section:

No.2 or No.5:

E30M3SE

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196 months

Sunday 27th January 2013
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4rephill said:
If the sill (rocker panel), section has rusted from the inside, the only real cure is to have a replacement sill (rocker panel) fitted. The trouble with that is that it appears to only be available as part of a larger section:
This is where a decent 'panel beater' makes a repair section for you if the rust is localised and hasn't spread further down the sill. It's also how the costs start to build up.

One thing is for sure, the longer you leave it the worse the rust will get as will the repair bill.

sonnyb

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194 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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I think it is fairly poor for cars of this age and supposedly premium brand should suffer rust. It reminds of of the similar problems with Rover and BL of the 80's though not nearly so bad.
I had an 05 330Ci, though, which when I sold it in 2011 was immaculate and no rust visible whatsoever, though I was wary of it.

robmarrs

235 posts

198 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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Had the same on my 03 plate 330d m sport touring but actually worse, both side around most of the top of the arch, the only real remedy is new wings and a spray job, well over £1000!, the problem with most bodyshops is they don't actually sort the real problem out behind the arch liners.