330d M Sport - Why isn't mine selling!?!?!?!
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RichwiththeS2000 said:
So it actually went for nearly 40k without an oil change even?
:/ That would put me straight off.
You don't know the car, you don't know the previous owner or myself so if that's all you have to go on then that may put YOU off - fair enough. Drive the car and I would suggest there is nothing to put you off as it runs like it has 40k on the clock, it feels great. I used to have a 320d with 24k on clock and it feels no different apart from the speed. This is a car forum, we inspect every little detail on car adverts but the majority of buyers don't in my opinion so I can;t think that small factor is putting people off IMO.:/ That would put me straight off.
Could be wrong though
Fair enough, but unless BMW suggest a 40k service interval is OK, then its not a "FBMWSH", is it? Key word being 'full'
The reason it would put me off is we'd have no way of telling if/how much damage was caused to the engine by running it on crap oil for that long. Sure it may seem OK to you and your mate now but that doesn't mean component life hasn't been reduced.
Coming from the Honda world I might be more sensitive to it than others, maybe in a modern diesel that's perfectly fine - I'm just saying that looking over the advert that would put me off personally (which is what you wanted to find out)..
The reason it would put me off is we'd have no way of telling if/how much damage was caused to the engine by running it on crap oil for that long. Sure it may seem OK to you and your mate now but that doesn't mean component life hasn't been reduced.
Coming from the Honda world I might be more sensitive to it than others, maybe in a modern diesel that's perfectly fine - I'm just saying that looking over the advert that would put me off personally (which is what you wanted to find out)..
jonamv8 said:
RichwiththeS2000 said:
So it actually went for nearly 40k without an oil change even?
:/ That would put me straight off.
You don't know the car, you don't know the previous owner or myself so if that's all you have to go on then that may put YOU off - fair enough. Drive the car and I would suggest there is nothing to put you off as it runs like it has 40k on the clock, it feels great. I used to have a 320d with 24k on clock and it feels no different apart from the speed. This is a car forum, we inspect every little detail on car adverts but the majority of buyers don't in my opinion so I can;t think that small factor is putting people off IMO.:/ That would put me straight off.
Could be wrong though
You do know the car and know what it drives like.
A prospective buyer doesn't and will not get as far as what it drives like - all he sees is 40k miles without an oil change > click > next car.
When people are spending £10k on a car, they look at stuff like this. In their heads, they're thinking
"120k miles - what's the history like? If I'm spending that money on those miles, it'd better be thorough"
RichwiththeS2000 said:
Fair enough, but unless BMW suggest a 40k service interval is OK, then its not a "FBMWSH", is it? Key word being 'full'
The reason it would put me off is we'd have no way of telling if/how much damage was caused to the engine by running it on crap oil for that long. Sure it may seem OK to you and your mate now but that doesn't mean component life hasn't been reduced.
Coming from the Honda world I might be more sensitive to it than others, maybe in a modern diesel that's perfectly fine - I'm just saying that looking over the advert that would put me off personally (which is what you wanted to find out)..
Appreciate your feedback and yes it's what I asked for. Having just checked the bookley again in an effort to find out service intervals I have just seen that it's had an engine oil tick at every service!!!!!!!! Amending advert now!!!!!The reason it would put me off is we'd have no way of telling if/how much damage was caused to the engine by running it on crap oil for that long. Sure it may seem OK to you and your mate now but that doesn't mean component life hasn't been reduced.
Coming from the Honda world I might be more sensitive to it than others, maybe in a modern diesel that's perfectly fine - I'm just saying that looking over the advert that would put me off personally (which is what you wanted to find out)..
i think the advert is fine, good pics, good description ,youve got great feedback.
Car looks good, nice colour, leather, looks in good condition.
Lack of satnav is an issue as mentioned, but i dont think on a car of this age and mileage its such an issue as it would be on a car priced at a few grand more.
If i was in the market for an e92 around this price, I would have done my homework first and would be aware of the cracked alloys issue, maybe its worth mentioning that your wheels are crack free/never welded (if thats the case). im sure with that mileage and still on run flat tyres, the wheels must have been replaced at least once, can you find this out?
I agree the car should be pitched under £10000, that will be a price ceiling for a lot of people. Values on the e92 have dropped due to it now being an "old model". Also the 100000mile barrier is a massive filter for putting people off, it puts it into the market of people who would like to own an msport coupe, but need to compromise to afford one.It needs to be priced to compete with se models with lower miles of similar age.
My feeling is that to make it stand out and generate interest it should be £9500, look alot of car for that.
Car looks good, nice colour, leather, looks in good condition.
Lack of satnav is an issue as mentioned, but i dont think on a car of this age and mileage its such an issue as it would be on a car priced at a few grand more.
If i was in the market for an e92 around this price, I would have done my homework first and would be aware of the cracked alloys issue, maybe its worth mentioning that your wheels are crack free/never welded (if thats the case). im sure with that mileage and still on run flat tyres, the wheels must have been replaced at least once, can you find this out?
I agree the car should be pitched under £10000, that will be a price ceiling for a lot of people. Values on the e92 have dropped due to it now being an "old model". Also the 100000mile barrier is a massive filter for putting people off, it puts it into the market of people who would like to own an msport coupe, but need to compromise to afford one.It needs to be priced to compete with se models with lower miles of similar age.
My feeling is that to make it stand out and generate interest it should be £9500, look alot of car for that.
The I-drive thing is madness; took me ages to find a 335d WITHOUT it. Earlier model I-drive is so utterly cr4p that its almost hilarious. Even the later version was woeful.
I have also been told by a senior technician that running a well maintained 3 series without it is fine without a warranty; don't even think about it with I-drive. So not only is it cr4p, it also makes your car break down; as happened with the inlaws three month old 535d that got sent back to BMW. What was to blame? You've guessed it. Like RFTs, it's the most pointless "innovation" in any BMW.
Current models are streets ahead.
I have also been told by a senior technician that running a well maintained 3 series without it is fine without a warranty; don't even think about it with I-drive. So not only is it cr4p, it also makes your car break down; as happened with the inlaws three month old 535d that got sent back to BMW. What was to blame? You've guessed it. Like RFTs, it's the most pointless "innovation" in any BMW.
Current models are streets ahead.
Vladimir said:
The I-drive thing is madness; took me ages to find a 335d WITHOUT it. Earlier model I-drive is so utterly cr4p that its almost hilarious. Even the later version was woeful.
I have also been told by a senior technician that running a well maintained 3 series without it is fine without a warranty; don't even think about it with I-drive. So not only is it cr4p, it also makes your car break down; as happened with the inlaws three month old 535d that got sent back to BMW. What was to blame? You've guessed it. Like RFTs, it's the most pointless "innovation" in any BMW.
Current models are streets ahead.
i bought a pre lci e92 ,when i was shopping it HAD to have idrive, i was less than impressed with it after a few days of ownership, i agree its cr#p ,cant say ive ever heard of idrive being a cause for breakdown though?I have also been told by a senior technician that running a well maintained 3 series without it is fine without a warranty; don't even think about it with I-drive. So not only is it cr4p, it also makes your car break down; as happened with the inlaws three month old 535d that got sent back to BMW. What was to blame? You've guessed it. Like RFTs, it's the most pointless "innovation" in any BMW.
Current models are streets ahead.
ive now got an lci e92 with idrive and its streets ahead. My advice to anyone shopping for a pre lci (2010 build) dont pay anymore for an idrive spec car. having said that, i only know this because ive owned one, anyone looking at this car probably wont have.
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