130i M LE to replace 123d M

[mikeyscott]

aeropilot said:

mikeyscott said:

mmm

http://www.bmwauc.com/AUC/WBAUC720X0VF18375/digi-p...

Low spec car, so priced accordingly.

Oh, BMW used site has the spec graph / bar to the max.

Prob going to local garage this weekend to try a N54 57 335i, but it's not the spec I'm after so won't be buying, but need to know what they drive like. All the 335i/135i seem to be up north these days.

[DoubleSix]

You do know the character of the 135i engine is a very different proposition to the zingy free revving 130i?

Great car sure, but erm, none of the noise or response of the N52 sans turbo.

[aeropilot]

mikeyscott said:

aeropilot said:

mikeyscott said:

mmm

http://www.bmwauc.com/AUC/WBAUC720X0VF18375/digi-p...

Low spec car, so priced accordingly.

Oh, BMW used site has the spec graph / bar to the max.

They are trying to sell it.....

Other than leather and Nav/Bluetooth options it's bog standard. My guess would be it was a lease car originally, hence the Nav/Bluetooth/leather and no other options.
No xenons and naff standard spec audio makes it hard to sell in used market.

[mikeyscott]

aeropilot said:

mikeyscott said:

aeropilot said:

mikeyscott said:

mmm

http://www.bmwauc.com/AUC/WBAUC720X0VF18375/digi-p...

Low spec car, so priced accordingly.

Oh, BMW used site has the spec graph / bar to the max.

They are trying to sell it.....

Other than leather and Nav/Bluetooth options it's bog standard. My guess would be it was a lease car originally, hence the Nav/Bluetooth/leather and no other options.
No xenons and naff standard spec audio makes it hard to sell in used market.

Happy they are trying to sell it, just would be nice if information was accurate. Oh well, will ignore that.

[mikeyscott]

It's an ex press car, I'm staying well clear.

[sagarich]

Keeping my eye out for a 130i... Ideally with xenons as I think they just look smarter.

The LE is tempting but I'm not sure if the leather will be a nightmare to keep clean.

Also, sorry if its been done to death. But the differences between LCI and non LIC are?

[DoubleSix]

sagarich said:

Keeping my eye out for a 130i... Ideally with xenons as I think they just look smarter.

The LE is tempting but I'm not sure if the leather will be a nightmare to keep clean.

Also, sorry if its been done to death. But the differences between LCI and non LIC are?

It has been done to death. But because I'm nice:

- Interior improvements, door cards, glove box, materials
- Efficient Dynamics
- Wider rear wheels
- Light cluster remodelled
- Other stuff I've forgotten

You're right to seek out Xenons, they really take the car a bit more upmarket and also give you the nice LED rears, car looks terribly dated without them imo. I've got the dynamic ones that swivel with steering inputs.

[sagarich]

DoubleSix said:

sagarich said:

Keeping my eye out for a 130i... Ideally with xenons as I think they just look smarter.

The LE is tempting but I'm not sure if the leather will be a nightmare to keep clean.

Also, sorry if its been done to death. But the differences between LCI and non LIC are?

It has been done to death. But because I'm nice:

- Interior improvements, door cards, glove box, materials
- Efficient Dynamics
- Wider rear wheels
- Light cluster remodelled
- Other stuff I've forgotten

You're right to seek out Xenons, they really take the car a bit more upmarket and also give you the nice LED rears, car looks terribly dated without them imo. I've got the dynamic ones that swivel with steering inputs.

Great, thanks so no difference with the engine at all?

[DoubleSix]

No. BUT there was an issue with the N52 that most don't seem to no about. Basically the whole head was redesigned due to the HVAs being starved of oil resulting in a loud knocking noise. Not good.

BMW never did a recall, but did issue a service bulletin saying " just change oil and send customer away, if they complain again then fit the new head reluctantly", or words to that effect. I read up on the issue and insisted it was done (cost over a £1000) under AUC warranty.

I'd prefer a car I bought to have had this done personally as it would be costly if it reared it's head later. Other than that these engine are pretty bullet proof.

Edited by DoubleSix on Thursday 6th March 12:21

[DoubleSix]

Here it is:



(1) 11-12-7-591-617 N52 Cylinder head with valve
(1) 11-12-9-391-547 Set of Alu. screws F Cylinder
(1) 11-12-7-548-799 Bolt cylinder head
(1) 11-12-0-392-547 set of alu. screws
(3) 11-12-7-521-167 ASS-Stud Bolt
(2) 11-36-7-524-954 Collar Screw
(1) 11-12-7-555-757 Cylinder head gasket
(1) 11-12-7-548-921 Gasket set cylinder head
(1) 11-12-0-409-288 set of alu. screws
(2) 13-62-7-530-413 Torx screw
(2) 11-12-7-529-997 Torx Screw
(6) 33-32-6-768-354 Hex screw with collar
(1) 11-42-7-566-327 Set oil-filter Elem
(7) 07-51-0-017-954 Motor oil SW30
(1) 82-14-1-467-704 Antifreeze
(1) 22-11-0-392-551 Set of Alu. screws

September 2009

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B11 09 07 dated January 2009.

SUBJECT
Intermittent Hydraulic Valve Adjuster (HVA) Noise

MODEL
All E82, E83, E88, E85, E86, E60, E61, E70, E90, E91, E92 and E93 vehicles with N51, N52 or N52K engines produced approximately up to November 31st 2008; refer to cylinder head casting identification attachment.


SITUATION
An occasional ticking or rattling noise from the camshaft hydraulic valve lifters (HVA) may occur during cold engine starts, due to frequent short-distance driving, or the noise may occur for an extended period of time even though the engine is at operating temperature.

Improved parts were phased into production beginning on 10/1/2008 and fully implemented on November 31st 2008.

CORRECTION
Do not perform the bleeding procedure that was previously provided in SI B11 09 07 which has now been deleted.

All vehicles produced between 10/1/2008 and 11/31/2008 must have each vehicle's cylinder head casting number identified before hydraulic valve lifters (HVA) replacement, due to staggered implementation. Refer to the attachment for the casting number location. Vehicles produced after 11/31/2008 have already been fitted with improved parts. Vehicles produced prior to 10/1/2008 will require the new parts.

Improved Casting Numbers

N51 (B30)
7588277.01

N52 (B30)
7588273.01

N52K (B30)
7588271.01

A cylinder head casting number that does not match will require replacement of the 12 exhaust camshaft hydraulic valve lifters (HVA) as per Repair Instruction RA 11 33 050, Removing and installing/replacing all rocker arms. Only the exhaust camshaft and rocker arms have to be removed in order to replace the hydraulic valve lifters. Do not remove or replace any intake camshaft valve train components.

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Quantity

11 33 7 605 330
Hydraulic Valve Lifter (HVA)
12

Refer to EPC for additional gaskets, seals and bolts, as required by the Repair Instructions.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty, or the Certified Pre-Owned program.

Please refer to the latest KSD for the applicable Main or Associated labor allowance for the specific model.

Defect Code:
11 33 93 39 00

[aeropilot]

DoubleSix said:

sagarich said:

Keeping my eye out for a 130i... Ideally with xenons as I think they just look smarter.

The LE is tempting but I'm not sure if the leather will be a nightmare to keep clean.

Also, sorry if its been done to death. But the differences between LCI and non LIC are?

It has been done to death. But because I'm nice:

- Interior improvements, door cards, glove box, materials
- Efficient Dynamics
- Wider rear wheels
- Light cluster remodelled
- Other stuff I've forgotten

Biggest difference about the LCI in respect of the 130i is the Efficent Dynamics bit, as this included the change from the hydraulic PAS to the electric PAS.

[DoubleSix]

Ah, yes that's the biggy the change to PAS...

[sagarich]

DoubleSix said:

No. BUT there was an issue with the N52 that most don't seem to no about. Basically the whole head was redesigned due to the HVAs being starved of oil resulting in a loud knocking noise. Not good.

BMW never did a recall, but did issue a service bulletin saying " just change oil and send customer away, if they complain again then fit the new head reluctantly", or words to that effect. I read up on the issue and insisted it was done (cost over a £1000) under AUC warranty.

I'd prefer a car I bought to have had this done personally as it would be costly if it reared it's head later. Other than that these engine are pretty bullet proof.

Edited by DoubleSix on Thursday 6th March 12:21

Great thanks, I will keep this in mind.

[sagarich]

Thanks for the PM doublesix , lets see.

[mikeyscott]

Other considerations have been Audi S3, but some home I expect the RWD drive is much more involving that a quattro

[LocoBlade]

Agreed with other comments that it's an OK but not great soec, not keen on the red colour either. Would certainly be looking at that 2 year newer N55 335i for only £2k more

Edited by LocoBlade on Thursday 6th March 20:23

[mikeyscott]

http://www.bmwauc.com/AUC/WBAVB72070...5/digi-pdf....

Another this morning, but missing info and £££ compared to the 60 plate

No Xeons, nav listed etc and assume N54 so all in all mm.. Mileage is a lot less, but spec..

Not happy re PX on my 123d so looking to negotiate or sell privately

Someone said to me last night take my 123d to DMS and forget about the 335i.

Edited by mikeyscott on Friday 7th March 15:25

[DAmiJO]

sagarich said:

Thanks for the PM doublesix , lets see.

Do share

[DoubleSix]

DAmiJO said:

sagarich said:

Thanks for the PM doublesix , lets see.

Do share

I was just letting him know i'll probably be letting go of my low miles 130i in the next few months so to keep in touch...

[sagarich]

Aero spoilers, how much sprayed and fitted?

Could you DIY fit? Or better to go to a dealer?