245hp vs 258hp
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smashy said:
Wills2 said:
You'll be able to pick up the sports seats on ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/221607498158?limghl...
Wills ,thanks but its not just a case of in and out,Dealers will not do it I would have retro new ,nor will my indy ,too many legalites never mind coding ,airbags electrics.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/221607498158?limghl...
Ita a long story welsh ,revolving round my 120d timing chain going,,,replacement engine playing up ,good PX on said car ,ordering a 225d they said 6 weeks then 4 weeks in said it would be another 5 months,needed to get rid of my PX car before it fell to bits,,,,6 years of being happy in an SE one series seats an' all so thinking a 3 series would be a step up my dealer could source this new in a week. actually cheaper on finance than the 2 series as no dealer help on that model....
Allways a story welsh,,,and crazy to think if I had a 200 mile journey id rather do it in my old oner
Allways a story welsh,,,and crazy to think if I had a 200 mile journey id rather do it in my old oner
smashy said:
Ita a long story welsh ,revolving round my 120d timing chain going,,,replacement engine playing up ,good PX on said car ,ordering a 225d they said 6 weeks then 4 weeks in said it would be another 5 months,needed to get rid of my PX car before it fell to bits,,,,6 years of being happy in an SE one series seats an' all so thinking a 3 series would be a step up my dealer could source this new in a week. actually cheaper on finance than the 2 series as no dealer help on that model....
Allways a story welsh,,,and crazy to think if I had a 200 mile journey id rather do it in my old oner
sAllways a story welsh,,,and crazy to think if I had a 200 mile journey id rather do it in my old oner
t bad luck. Given the complexity and certain accelerated depreciation for a modified /changed seat you need to consider changing the car. My dad had to change a car once after 3 months took a bath on it £ wise but he was in agony (only given a short test drive which didn't bring up the issue).
Welshbeef said:
st bad luck.
Given the complexity and certain accelerated depreciation for a modified /changed seat you need to consider changing the car. My dad had to change a car once after 3 months took a bath on it £ wise but he was in agony (only given a short test drive which didn't bring up the issue).
What complexity? It's a bolt in bolt out job provided the new seats are of the same 'level' as his current, ie not fully electric memory seats or something.t bad luck. Given the complexity and certain accelerated depreciation for a modified /changed seat you need to consider changing the car. My dad had to change a car once after 3 months took a bath on it £ wise but he was in agony (only given a short test drive which didn't bring up the issue).
Fox ,what can i say? i feel just like you get your money out and job done but ring up the Parts dept of any dealer tell them you want to change your standard seats to sports.
You can get an Independant to change from a BMW seat to recaro ,its a strange thing but they will not do the former
You can get an Independant to change from a BMW seat to recaro ,its a strange thing but they will not do the former
Edited by smashy on Saturday 6th December 19:46
Edited by smashy on Saturday 6th December 23:19
Fox- said:
Welshbeef said:
st bad luck.
Given the complexity and certain accelerated depreciation for a modified /changed seat you need to consider changing the car. My dad had to change a car once after 3 months took a bath on it £ wise but he was in agony (only given a short test drive which didn't bring up the issue).
What complexity? It's a bolt in bolt out job provided the new seats are of the same 'level' as his current, ie not fully electric memory seats or something.t bad luck. Given the complexity and certain accelerated depreciation for a modified /changed seat you need to consider changing the car. My dad had to change a car once after 3 months took a bath on it £ wise but he was in agony (only given a short test drive which didn't bring up the issue).
REALIST123 said:
But the Comfort seats that the poster wishes he had, which are streets ahead of Sports seats, ARE fully electric memory seats.
Agree with that (Though somebody else said they were not offered on the 3 Series anyway) but the base Sport seats are not - the have the same level of electric adjustment as the SE seats.Guys ,I do realise comfort in 5s only but re sports and standard its a no no. The standard one series were far more supportive and comfortable.Its to do with electrics_( I have heated and lumbar) ,airbags and christ knows what else ,trust me ive made enough phone calls,,,re the se seats on the oner,you could tilt the seat to give your thighs support,plus in the F30 the standard seats do not give you thigh support if you are 6ft they were longer in the oner ,the oner had more room for a driver believe it or not,
Time again id go sports seats adaptive suspension and smallest wheels possible.That would have done it.because for me the 20/25k miles I do where else would I get that BMW 3ltr diesel?? Worthing and back from west london another 52 mpg and in sports im in a rocket.
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Time again id go sports seats adaptive suspension and smallest wheels possible.That would have done it.because for me the 20/25k miles I do where else would I get that BMW 3ltr diesel?? Worthing and back from west london another 52 mpg and in sports im in a rocket.
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Edited by smashy on Saturday 6th December 20:22
Edited by smashy on Saturday 6th December 23:18
smashy said:
Guys ,I do realise comfort in 5s only but re sports and standard its a no no. The standard one series were far more supportive and comfortable.Its to do with electrics ,airbags and christ knows what else ,trust me ive made enough phone calls,
I would be astounded if it's a no-no. It is almost certain that they both plug into the same connectors. Have a look at some of the American F30 forums as I bet it's the sort of thing quite a few of them over there have had a go at.'No it can't be done' probably means 'We've no idea' in the phone calls you've been making.
[quote=smashy]Fox ,im not daft buddy,ive checked and rechecked ,for example Rossiters use Autoleys http://www.autoleys.co.uk/about for all their retro stuff.
Ian leys the owner a former master tech at Listers BMW explained the problems.If your curious ring him,im just the messenger.
If as a hobby project you can find me someone that will buy me a new( yes new please) BMW sports seat and fit it ,ill buy you a pint,im in total agreement ,it seems bizarre,
I looked into BMW performance seats £1800 plus fitting (whoa) plus sat in all the recaros but im a legs splayed out lounging driver and at 16 stone not all belly thank god lol ,not for me
Ian leys the owner a former master tech at Listers BMW explained the problems.If your curious ring him,im just the messenger.
If as a hobby project you can find me someone that will buy me a new( yes new please) BMW sports seat and fit it ,ill buy you a pint,im in total agreement ,it seems bizarre,
I looked into BMW performance seats £1800 plus fitting (whoa) plus sat in all the recaros but im a legs splayed out lounging driver and at 16 stone not all belly thank god lol ,not for me
I've also checked and re-checked because I almost bought a 5 Series without Sport Seats so I looked into retrofitting a set of Sport seats as they were essential for me. My research told me that provided they had the same level of electric adjustment - which they did - you simply unbolt the old seat, disconnect the connectors, reconnect the new seat and bolt it back up. The mounting points and wiring are the same and no coding was required.
This was for an F10 not an F30 but I cannot imagine why it would be any different and indeed during my research came across a chap in the US who had done the same thing with an F30.
Dealers will obviously tell you it cannot be done because they've probably never had call to do it.
In the end the car I bought had the seats I wanted so I never needed to do it, but it certainly looked entirely possible and I almost bought the car with the wrong seats on the strength of how confident I was about it.
Think logically - why would they go to the trouble of having a different wiring setup for the Sport seats? They have no additional electrical functions?
This was for an F10 not an F30 but I cannot imagine why it would be any different and indeed during my research came across a chap in the US who had done the same thing with an F30.
Dealers will obviously tell you it cannot be done because they've probably never had call to do it.
In the end the car I bought had the seats I wanted so I never needed to do it, but it certainly looked entirely possible and I almost bought the car with the wrong seats on the strength of how confident I was about it.
Think logically - why would they go to the trouble of having a different wiring setup for the Sport seats? They have no additional electrical functions?
Fox ,I know ,I know ,I know im going to ring ian at autoleys on monday and sort this,once and for all,
"I have a manual standard seat , with lumbar and heating can i put a manual sports seat in with same lumbar and heated ,i dont want heated and lumbar but if i have to have it so be it!"
Ill be back
"I have a manual standard seat , with lumbar and heating can i put a manual sports seat in with same lumbar and heated ,i dont want heated and lumbar but if i have to have it so be it!"
Ill be back
No, I mean, don't buy a seat with memory if your car doesn't have it, same with ventilated seats etc. etc.
If you buy one without heating or lumber it is not a problem other than you will have lost your heated seats and lumbar. I would definitely find heated ones though, but the lumber I wouldn't worry too much, you can take the back panel off the seat and put a couple of folded tea towels between the springs and foam to get it how you like it anyway.
But as long as you go manual, part electric or memory so it matches what the car is coded for already they will just plug in without any coding.
If you buy one without heating or lumber it is not a problem other than you will have lost your heated seats and lumbar. I would definitely find heated ones though, but the lumber I wouldn't worry too much, you can take the back panel off the seat and put a couple of folded tea towels between the springs and foam to get it how you like it anyway.
But as long as you go manual, part electric or memory so it matches what the car is coded for already they will just plug in without any coding.
In theory, to do it absolutely correctly they need to change the Vehicle Order of the car, the list of options that is coded to your car, and many dealers simply say 'not possible' as it isn't on their preprogrammed list of retrofits.
But if the seats have the same bits on them, they will work and not throw any errors or log any when the car is being diagnosed.
You could change the VO if you wanted to, so when the car is plugged in at BMW it says sport seats fitted, but no real point.
But if the seats have the same bits on them, they will work and not throw any errors or log any when the car is being diagnosed.
You could change the VO if you wanted to, so when the car is plugged in at BMW it says sport seats fitted, but no real point.
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