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Argybargy

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248 posts

182 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Probably not the first time this has come up but would welcome any help. My E46 330Ci has recently started pinking when the engine is hot and the weather is warm.Very noticeable on moderate load from 2500-3500 rpm. It's really annoying and is spoiling my enjoyment of the car.

The car is fussed over no end - always treated to super unleaded (usually Shell Nitro), oil changes every 7.5 K miles and serviced properly. Had the car for 7 years now and the engine pulls as strong as ever. Is it an issue of ignition timing and if so why should it occur now?

_Batty_

12,268 posts

250 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Any error codes?

Argybargy

Original Poster:

248 posts

182 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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No.

_Batty_

12,268 posts

250 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Argybargy said:
No.
What's the milage? Are what makes you sure it's det?

m0isty

124 posts

181 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Rattling VANOS or DISA valve?

t8cmf

342 posts

160 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Argybargy said:
Probably not the first time this has come up but would welcome any help. My E46 330Ci has recently started pinking when the engine is hot and the weather is warm.Very noticeable on moderate load from 2500-3500 rpm. It's really annoying and is spoiling my enjoyment of the car.

The car is fussed over no end - always treated to super unleaded (usually Shell Nitro), oil changes every 7.5 K miles and serviced properly. Had the car for 7 years now and the engine pulls as strong as ever. Is it an issue of ignition timing and if so why should it occur now?
I'm not saying it's related to this but have you Googled the issues that some marques are having with Shell Nitro fuel?

It's been problematic to some. My E92 M3 reacted very badly to it putting my car into limp mode.

Experiment with some other brands over the next few weeks to see how you get on.

Argybargy

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248 posts

182 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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I've had the car for 7 years now and I have done over 80K miles in it - it's now done 117K. It has mainly been run on Shell (V Power and now Nitro) but occasionally Esso Supreme or Tesco Momentum. I'm pretty sure it is pinking - I had the same issue with a previous car (a Mazda) and that never got fixed despite the Mazda garage endlessly fiddling with the timing.

Driving along with the windows down it is very noticeable. I didn't think it was a common issue with these engines and given the way it's been maintained I'm at a loss to understand why it's doing it now.

steve_bmw

1,590 posts

175 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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My z4 with the same engine does this, it's fine in the winter or when cold but if it's hot it pinks, it's greatly reduced if not eliminated when I use 99 momentum fuel.
Been like it for 3 years, never caused a problem but I would like to know why it does it too

Argybargy

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248 posts

182 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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I'll give another fuel a go but may consider Terra Clean in case the engine is coked up.Has anyone else tried that?

Argybargy

Original Poster:

248 posts

182 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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I'll give another fuel a go but may consider Terra Clean in case the engine is coked up.Has anyone else tried that?

Argybargy

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248 posts

182 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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Back from the garage. Replaced faulty air mass meter, did extended engine flush and put in oil additive. Seems to have largely sorted it but still might give Terra Clean a go. Surprised if many others didn't have this problem, given I change the oil and filter every 7.5K miles, only ever use Super and occasionally put in petrol additives.

Another bill to add to my collection...

EssexIan

135 posts

283 months

Saturday 31st May 2014
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This may have been because you experienced warm engine and warm weather while catching the end of winter spec fuels. Believe it or not, but refineries and fuel blending plants produce different blends of fuel for summer and winter, this is not done on weather forecast for a month ahead or anything similar but purely on a change over date decided by the fuel company marketing teams so in late spring it is very possible that on a few very warm days we will all still be using winter spec fuels.

Winter spec fuels on warm days will almost certainly give rise to detonation until the ecu learns to cope and retards ignition etc.

Ian