F31 335d M possible purchase

F31 335d M possible purchase

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tighnamara

2,186 posts

152 months

Tuesday 15th July 2014
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Welshbeef said:
Rwd only would be better mpg too better ride height
So what did you finally order or are you still deliberating for the 100th consecutive month.
Go on take the plunge............you won't regret it.........

dick_dastardly71

171 posts

188 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Hedgeman said:
Something is very wrong there with those delivery dates. I placed my order early June, it was originally going to be delivered in September, but my dealer issued a "pull forward" request and I took delivery of the car last Saturday.

Even with the original September delivery date, it's hard to believe that BMW have taken 5 months worth of build slots in the past month.

Gary.
They've sent me the screen prints showing week 9 2015, so I can't dispute what they're telling me. The dealer has also mentioned that they've issued a pull forward request, but have said it depends on whether BMW UK get further allocation of 35d engines. Hopefully my response that I'll cancel if I'm really looking at March 2015 delivery given the facelift model is out in July will see a successful 'pull forward', although it's probably an empty threat given the level of discount I managed to get on this order.

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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tighnamara said:
Welshbeef said:
Rwd only would be better mpg too better ride height
So what did you finally order or are you still deliberating for the 100th consecutive month.
Go on take the plunge............you won't regret it.........
I have not as yet but higher running costs again for my RS6 - though it is a superb car but using as a daily driver might not be the wisest moves ongoing.

I'm fully aware of the F30 335d deals now and options I do want - have been noticing the AUC F30 330ds for c£27k with tiny miles on then too and the other factor is the wife is pushing look at a 335i/d E91/92 for low teens run it for 2-3 years then pick up the F30 335d for £20k saving a lot in the process (I'm not 100% convinced that is actually the most efficient way though).

Have also had a look at a low price loaded F11 535d m which does give rwd

Fox-

13,228 posts

245 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Do stop calling it a '335d M', you sound as bad as those people who think it's an M3. It's not a '335d M', the 'Sport' bit on the end is important hehe

Osinjak

5,453 posts

120 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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dick_dastardly71 said:
Just been told my 335d Touring, ordered at the end of June, has a build date of, wait for it... Week 9 2015 (end of February). Eight months wait for a 3 Series? Seriously? Dealer has indicated that this is due to BMW UK's allocation of 35d engines being full and that they're trying to get an increased allocation.

Not happy given (1) the delay means the LCI facelift (which I also understand will be badged 340d) will be out shortly after I take delivery of my car, and (2) this means I have a combined wait of around 26 months for the 2 cars I currently have on order - how difficult is it to buy a new car!!!
What is this 340d of which you speak? Googling reveals zip, care to share?!

Mattt

16,661 posts

217 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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335i becomes 340i

Osinjak

5,453 posts

120 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Mattt said:
335i becomes 340i
Bit abstract for me, that one. Can you expand just a teeny tiny bit?

Fox-

13,228 posts

245 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Osinjak said:
Bit abstract for me, that one. Can you expand just a teeny tiny bit?
Seems logical, after all, there is no 635i or 635d despite having the same engines as the 335i and 335d both are instead badged 640i and 640d. Ditto X5's - there is no XDrive35d, it's an XDrive40d..

Osinjak

5,453 posts

120 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Hmm, I may be missing something here but why is it logical? I can't see the logic behind it at all. Are we saying that the 335d/i will get an increase in power and the corresponding nomenclature will rise as well? So the 335d goes from 313 bhp to 325 bhp (or whatever it increases to) and will then be called a 340d?

I also think the previous E9x series was out for about six years before it went through an LCI but the F series will have only been around 3-4 years next year so where is the predicted 2015 LCI coming from?

Fox-

13,228 posts

245 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Osinjak said:
Hmm, I may be missing something here but why is it logical? I can't see the logic behind it at all. Are we saying that the 335d/i will get an increase in power and the corresponding nomenclature will rise as well? So the 335d goes from 313 bhp to 325 bhp (or whatever it increases to) and will then be called a 340d?
It's not 'logical' but they've done it with the rest of the model range. There was no real reason to call the 640d a 640d but they did. Ditto the move from XDrive35d to XDrive40d on the X5.

Osinjak said:
I also think the previous E9x series was out for about six years before it went through an LCI but the F series will have only been around 3-4 years next year so where is the predicted 2015 LCI coming from?
The LCI timing is always very precise. The E90 was out for nothing like 6 years before LCI - it was out for exactly 3.5 years (Introduced March 2005, LCI September 2008) just like the E60 (Introduced September 2003, LCI March 2007), the F10 (Introduced March 2010, LCI September 2013), etc etc.

Each BMW model will be available for 7 years and have an LCI at 3.5 years. It's like clockwork. Therefore you always know exactly when it'll be.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

120 months

Wednesday 16th July 2014
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Fair enough, I wasn't absolutely sure about the LCI timing for the E9x, it just seems it had been out for longer than 3.5 years. I know BMW have a history of fiddling with the numbers, I was just curious to know where the assertion that there would be a 340d next year came from. Mind you, if they did put a proper 40d in a 3er that would be an interesting concept! I'm also quite interested in how the new Jag XE will compare with the 3 series particularly as they're hinting that there will be V6 range topper with associated silliness.

335d

758 posts

117 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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It seems unlikely that they would rebadge to a 340d while leaving the F10 as a 535d, which they did at last year's facelift.

Osinjak - not sure what they would have to do to make it a 'proper 40d'. It already shares the same engine as the 640d, 740d and X5 40d.

Edited by 335d on Thursday 17th July 08:40

Jobbo

12,958 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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You've just got to google '340d' to see that there have been rumours of that badge for 6 years. Doesn't mean it won't happen (there were rumours that the 3-series coupe would be rebadged 4-series since before the E46 was released, and that has finally happened), but it's probably just the usual internet tittle-tattle with no foundation.

Fox-

13,228 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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335d said:
It seems unlikely that they would rebadge to a 340d while leaving the F10 as a 535d, which they did at last year's facelift.
The fact there is a 640d but a 535d is what confuses me most given the 640d is essentially a 535d coupe.

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

197 months

Thursday 17th July 2014
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Fox- said:
The fact there is a 640d but a 535d is what confuses me most given the 640d is essentially a 535d coupe.
Its much more than that its a sublime coupe very understated.

Ross_T_Boss

163 posts

217 months

Friday 18th July 2014
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I think they should all just be de-badged and then we can forget about the nonsense or re-badging the same car to a higher number... given the F30 is more like an E39 in size perhaps they should just rename the 3 to a 5, 5 to a 7, 7 to 8 and introduce a new 3-series that is similar is size to one 10 years ago!

I had to wait 5 months for mine whilst everyone else was waiting 2-3 months. No crazy options. There's definitely differences between the dealerships and who's ordering it (loyalty perks?). But i got it now with 10k discount so no more complaints!

Welshbeef, the RS6 will still cost less to run if you're covering sub 10k miles, but not by as much as you'd think! I bit the bullet and I don't regret it. The car is fantastic, has most of the performance, 10 years newer and gets 2-2.5x the MPG - the pain just moves from the fuel pump to the monthly's. But at least there's no surprise 1, 2, 3k+ bills cropping up, servicing or MOT... cheaper tax too smile I do miss that V8 noise though, gotta be honest.

What I would say is that x-drive is fantastic, it's not about snow - anyone having driving an RS car in the wet must be aware of that. Perhaps not for everyone and especially the 'purists' but personally I like the all-weather 'drag itself out of the corners' feel - have driven S/RS cars for years so I guess I'm biased. If you want s-drive then you do have options, either go for the 330d with PPK which is not far behind in a diesel or go for the 335i. There will be a saving on the monthly that'll help with the fuel bill as it's cheaper. The 5 series is a heavier car - perhaps that is why you can get the 35d in RWD - who knows.

SimNugget

580 posts

169 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Mine is completely debadged back and sides, and while I do not normally succumb, today on the Italian motorway I had a black Monaco registered 3 series estate tailgating me in traffic. I pulled over when clear, let him edge ahead and saw it was a 330d then gunned it. I know I would have got the run on him from the start but no doubt judging by his driving style he would have had pedal to the metal as I pulled away from him. Childish but fun. 335d rules.

On a different note, anyone having rattles doors? The plastic trim around the top of the doors by the glass is rattling really badly on both front doors.

S

335d

758 posts

117 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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SimNugget said:
Mine is completely debadged back and sides, and while I do not normally succumb, today on the Italian motorway I had a black Monaco registered 3 series estate tailgating me in traffic. I pulled over when clear, let him edge ahead and saw it was a 330d then gunned it. I know I would have got the run on him from the start but no doubt judging by his driving style he would have had pedal to the metal as I pulled away from him. Childish but fun. 335d rules.

On a different note, anyone having rattles doors? The plastic trim around the top of the doors by the glass is rattling really badly on both front doors.

S
Sounds fun with the 330d. The 335d really is a beautiful engine - such a great noise too!

I have a slight rattle in the passenger door, close to the glass, but haven't yet narrowed it down enough to get the dealer to fix it.

I have already had all door and window seals replaced as there were quite a few squeaks from the start. That job solved 99% of the squeaks.

SimNugget

580 posts

169 months

Sunday 20th July 2014
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Really, many people say that but to me it is still a bit of a rattley diesel when driving around town and whilst a bit of a growl it doesn't really excite me. But I have come from a C63 so I have been spoilt.

It does sound so much better than the CLS320 Merc I had moons ago.

Handling wise, it think it trounces the C63 when in Sport/Sport+

S

dick_dastardly71

171 posts

188 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Osinjak said:
Fair enough, I wasn't absolutely sure about the LCI timing for the E9x, it just seems it had been out for longer than 3.5 years. I know BMW have a history of fiddling with the numbers, I was just curious to know where the assertion that there would be a 340d next year came from. Mind you, if they did put a proper 40d in a 3er that would be an interesting concept! I'm also quite interested in how the new Jag XE will compare with the 3 series particularly as they're hinting that there will be V6 range topper with associated silliness.
Just stuff I came across when doing some internet digging and seemed to make sense given a number of models with the same engine / power output were previously rebadged from x35d to x40d... X5, 6 series, 7 series. As 335d has already said, the 335d engine is exactly the same as the other x40d models, so it's already a "proper 40d in a 3er".