F31 335d M possible purchase

[Welshbeef]

Hunky Dory a great post


The one I tested had the M performance pack so the "better" brakes I tried them hard a number of times and had no issues with them more than up to the job of slowing me down.


I remember the brakes in my old E 90 330d they were very very good so sharp and strong - I'd drive quite a few different cars similar power but always remember the brakes and steering feeling were in a vastly superior league( sound insulation though was much worse).

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So an update have added quite a few more options....

List ended up being c£52k hardly no option box ticked..
Discount took it down to c£40k
13k pa over a 4 year PCP
GFV £16k
4.9% apr
£503pcm
£6k down.

Very tempted

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Shapes said:

Hi Guys,

My F31 turned up last week, about 5 weeks earlier than planned. I took a few pics, should particularly help those trying to decide!

I wasn't sure on the grey when ordering, though now love it in the flesh.

Still driving it gently while I break the engine in.

Cheers

Really like the look of it that colour privacy rear windows and touring spec M Sport Plus for the brakes HK and Xenons.

What other options did you go for?

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tighnamara said:

Lovely looking car, enjoy.
Did you de badge the rear and leave the side badges ?

Waiting on delivery of the 330d in Tanzanite, due in June so not too long. Tried to upgrade to the 335d after I had placed the order but due to having the individual leather and colour it was locked early. Oh well, will be happy with the 330d that is replacing my old trouble free E46 330d with 260,000 miles I have had for 12 years.

That's some distance and you've certainly got your money's worth out of it - and no doubt it still has plenty of life left in it. (Presume you kept it totally standard and serviced it on the button OEM parts)

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Wills2 said:

I'd say that was fair advice, don't baby the engine but don't rag it either, give the engine load but not sustained high revs.

Thing is most people buy used cars and as a good 50% ++ of cars are co cars then rental cars then lease cars with very few being bought privately new I'd wager most are driven normally from day one using full rev range and plenty nailed from day 1.

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Fox- said:

I wonder if the sales guys at Welshbeefs local dealer all hide when they see him popping in for yet another PCP quote? He appears to have been doing it for about a year now

Lol no only one initial guide then the fully optioned one as per above.

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How can the F10/11 have the 535d as rwd and the 6 series rwd only whereas F30/31 is Xdrive only?


Seen quite a few now and the x drive does add a visible increase in height over the wheels v rwd only.

Also does adaptive suspension really turn the 335d into the m sport suspension it should have from the off?




Its really close to the end of the big discounts for this car and I'm still humming and haring about what to do.
Wife says if you want one buy a £15-20k one instead for now run it 3 years and then get a f31 335d for £20k in 3 years time - I think false economy but if its evolved and its rwd it would be quicker ... Though lacking economy and the old model.

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slippery said:

After starting this nearly two months ago, I see you're still as impulsive as ever Welshbeef!

The deal was always ending end of June so the plan was to hold off until the end regardless

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Mustard said:

Well if you are going for it, you need to be talking numbers now on a specific stock car that can be registered before the end of June

That's they way you'll get the end off quarter 'deal'

Walking in on the last day of the month with a long list of requirement meaning a factory order isn't going to work!

Drive the deal states orders up to end of June are in not a delivery/stock car.

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gizlaroc said:

I had an email yesterday morning saying that the BMW deals need to be placed by the 21st to secure the deals by the end of June.

Edit: That was from Drivethedeal.com by the way.

Ah. Will not be able to do it today/this weekend that is for sure

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dick_dastardly71 said:

Just been told my 335d Touring, ordered at the end of June, has a build date of, wait for it... Week 9 2015 (end of February). Eight months wait for a 3 Series? Seriously? Dealer has indicated that this is due to BMW UK's allocation of 35d engines being full and that they're trying to get an increased allocation.

Not happy given (1) the delay means the LCI facelift (which I also understand will be badged 340d) will be out shortly after I take delivery of my car, and (2) this means I have a combined wait of around 26 months for the 2 cars I currently have on order - how difficult is it to buy a new car!!!

Apart from the 340d badge what else is suspected to change?

340d rwd as a 535d can cope with the torque
More power
More economy
Updated looks


Cannot believe its such a long waiting list - really they need to remove the huge discounts or never had them in the first place or increase supply.

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Why is it only Xdrive yet the 5 series manages to handle to power just fine?

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Fox- said:

I don't see the point in offering it xDrive only though, it's a real shame, the demand for xDrive all of a sudden is driven entirely by the perception that we don't live in dull boring England we actually all live in Austria and need 4wd for the once time a year when it snows a bit. A shame if this sort of opinion kills the powerful RWD models.

Not a single flake last year. Just not reliable enough to be influencing purchases.

Rwd only would be better mpg too better ride height

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Hedgeman said:

Something is very wrong there with those delivery dates. I placed my order early June, it was originally going to be delivered in September, but my dealer issued a "pull forward" request and I took delivery of the car last Saturday.

Even with the original September delivery date, it's hard to believe that BMW have taken 5 months worth of build slots in the past month.

Gary.

Could simply be stronger demand elsewhere OR BMW forcing a reduction of discount by eliminating supply - or you have a rare option which is the issue.

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tighnamara said:

Welshbeef said:

Rwd only would be better mpg too better ride height

So what did you finally order or are you still deliberating for the 100th consecutive month.
Go on take the plunge............you won't regret it.........

I have not as yet but higher running costs again for my RS6 - though it is a superb car but using as a daily driver might not be the wisest moves ongoing.

I'm fully aware of the F30 335d deals now and options I do want - have been noticing the AUC F30 330ds for c£27k with tiny miles on then too and the other factor is the wife is pushing look at a 335i/d E91/92 for low teens run it for 2-3 years then pick up the F30 335d for £20k saving a lot in the process (I'm not 100% convinced that is actually the most efficient way though).

Have also had a look at a low price loaded F11 535d m which does give rwd

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Fox- said:

The fact there is a 640d but a 535d is what confuses me most given the 640d is essentially a 535d coupe.

Its much more than that its a sublime coupe very understated.

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Just glanced at Autotrader C63's average 22mpg and 08/59 reg cars are up for mid £20k's.

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Wills2 said:

Well Welshy you started the thread and I've just picked up mine this morning.

It's going to take some getting used to compared to my M3 and it's a bit "white goods" all I can say so far is it rides nicely.

Spec:

335d xdrive Touring
Black sapphire
black leather

M sport plus pack (bigger brakes/privacy/HK/19"/xenons)
Pro Nav
Panoramic roof
Folding mirrors
Speed limit display
Heated seats
High beam assist
Brushed aluminium trim

Edited by Wills2 on Friday 25th July 15:14

Great spec - also looking at your car history its very interesting to hear your views on it.
I still feel now that as amazing as the RS6 is the E90 330d was the better car - but it is an itch I couldn't not scratch.

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slippery said:

Welshbeef said:

Great spec - also looking at your car history its very interesting to hear your views on it.
I still feel now that as amazing as the RS6 is the E90 330d was the better car - but it is an itch I couldn't not scratch.

What?!! Your 'iconic' RS6 isn't as good as your old 330d?!!

Running costs have been a step beyond my expectations which detract from the ownership experiance somewhat. Its the worry of huge costs over and above high general running costs which are always a concern owning such a car.


Handling wise the 330d m was superior - be it lighter rwd more balanced weight distribution or it could be in arriving at corners much quicker than previously.

I know all the petrol station staff well - and for business miles I'm actually paying to drive them.



But the off the line is awesome the V8 through a tunnel amazing starting it up I open the windows every time, it has presence and when you do go silly and hold WOT its brutal no let up.

Wife nagging about running costs all the time drains too and a newer car would be safer etc. Ho hum.


When I look back at all the cars I've owned the E90 330d M is to date the best all round car I've owned, the RS6 is an ongoing great experiance which long after changing it I will remember fondly for the pure crazy-ness of it.

So maybe better is the wrong word - the 330d was more complete an all rounder jack of all trades master if none while the RS6 rally punched hard in the crazy zone it does mundane motoring not so great.

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Wills2 said:

Pugland53 said:

Sounds lovely, any pics?

Dreadful pic blame blackberry.

Looks lovely.

Is that a flat surface - reason for asking is the rear wheel gap to the arch (is that the standard ride height for Xdrive)?