Just bought a BMW in tescos

Just bought a BMW in tescos

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pattyg

1,330 posts

227 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Fox- said:
Try changing gear. The 325i is faster.
The 320d is faster whatever the gear, 4th, 5th, 6th. wink

Fox-

13,233 posts

246 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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pattyg said:
The 320d is faster whatever the gear, 4th, 5th, 6th. wink
Posts like this are why us diesel owners get a hard time, justifiably, from petrol owners.

On behalf of diesel owners everywhere - we're sorry.

pattyg

1,330 posts

227 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Fox- said:
Posts like this are why us diesel owners get a hard time, justifiably, from petrol owners.

On behalf of diesel owners everywhere - we're sorry.
You don't do humour do you fox? Do you need me to explain my post out to you?

OK, I understand so here goes - you came back with "try changing gear" i.e. 30 - 70 through the gears, I came back with 4th, 5th, 6th - referring again to in gear times, but it was also a play on your "changing gears" hence smiley face.

Get it now?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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pattyg said:
You don't do humour do you fox? Do you need me to explain my post out to you?

OK, I understand so here goes - you came back with "try changing gear" i.e. 30 - 70 through the gears, I came back with 4th, 5th, 6th - referring again to in gear times, but it was also a play on your "changing gears" hence smiley face.

Get it now?
No, 30 to 70 in the "right" gear. wink



325i accelerations: 0- 60 mph 6.3 s, 0- 100 km/h 6.7 s (declared by factory)
Overtaking factors
60-100 km/h through gears (sec): 3.5
80-120 km/h through gears (sec): 4.8
100-180 km/h through gears (sec): 16

320d accelerations: 0- 60 mph 7.6 s, 0- 100 km/h 8 s (declared by factory)
Overtaking factors
60-100 km/h through gears (sec): 4.3
80-120 km/h through gears (sec): 5.6
100-180 km/h through gears (sec): 20



I can agree the 320d may feel faster though, we can feel changes in velocity but can't feel speed itself, hence why most turbo cars feel faster even if they are not.

Mave

8,208 posts

215 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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gizlaroc said:
I can agree the 320d may feel faster though, we can feel changes in velocity but can't feel speed itself, hence why most turbo cars feel faster even if they are not.
We're actually more sensitive to rate of change of acceleration, AKA "jerk" :-) ( which is why we like turbos boooOOOOSTing)

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Mave said:
gizlaroc said:
......... we can feel changes in velocity but can't feel speed itself, hence why most turbo cars feel faster even if they are not.
We're actually more sensitive to rate of change of acceleration, AKA "jerk" :-) ( which is why we like turbos boooOOOOSTing)
That was what I was trying to say. biggrin

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

161 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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pattyg said:
You don't do humour do you fox? Do you need me to explain my post out to you?

OK, I understand so here goes - you came back with "try changing gear" i.e. 30 - 70 through the gears, I came back with 4th, 5th, 6th - referring again to in gear times, but it was also a play on your "changing gears" hence smiley face.

Get it now?
He's an accountant. It's not his fault, leave him alone wink

GTEYE

2,094 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Monty Python said:
Don't understand why anyone would want to have a diesel engine in a convertible - the manufacturer goes to all that trouble of putting in sound-deadening material to hide the noise from the engine, then lops the roof off so you're exposed to it in all it's gory detail.

If I was in charge, all convertibles would be powered by petrol.
What do hear in a convertible with the roof down?

I'll answer it for you, its wind noise.

So unless you like to sit in the car stationary with the engine idling, once you're on the move it makes no difference.

It really is a non issue.

pattyg

1,330 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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I had a new E93 320i convertible as a loan car a few years ago. The performance was dire but it did look good. That was a much worse option than the 320d imho.

General Fluff

478 posts

137 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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GTEYE said:
What do hear in a convertible with the roof down?

I'll answer it for you, its wind noise.

So unless you like to sit in the car stationary with the engine idling, once you're on the move it makes no difference.

It really is a non issue.
Spoken like someone who has never been in a convertible, ever.

GTEYE

2,094 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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General Fluff said:
GTEYE said:
What do hear in a convertible with the roof down?

I'll answer it for you, its wind noise.

So unless you like to sit in the car stationary with the engine idling, once you're on the move it makes no difference.

It really is a non issue.
Spoken like someone who has never been in a convertible, ever.
Well I do own an E93 330d convertible, so actually I do have some experience.

And I'll stand by the comment, from the driver's seat you hear the engine no differently roof up or down.

Makes me wonder if you've ever tried one?


Edited by GTEYE on Thursday 1st December 14:22


Edited by GTEYE on Thursday 1st December 14:23

General Fluff

478 posts

137 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Yes, own a Z3. Sounds great with the roof down, you can hear the exhaust note loud and clear.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

213 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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General Fluff said:
GTEYE said:
What do hear in a convertible with the roof down?

I'll answer it for you, its wind noise.

So unless you like to sit in the car stationary with the engine idling, once you're on the move it makes no difference.

It really is a non issue.
Spoken like someone who has never been in a convertible, ever.
A family member has an E350d convertible with the AMG kit, it doesn't make any difference at all. It's quiet and refined. Plus he gets 40 mpg, what's not to like?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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sparks_E39 said:
A family member has an E350d convertible with the AMG kit, it doesn't make any difference at all. It's quiet and refined. Plus he gets 40 mpg, what's not to like?
It makes no difference if you are ignorant to the alternative.

I have had the E350cdi and as good as it is, it is still a diesel and sounds st. I swapped for the E350 V6 petrol, it sounds glorious in comparison.

Oh, and 10-15% behind the diesel MPG wise too, makes the diesel pointless imho.


sparks_E39

12,738 posts

213 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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gizlaroc said:
sparks_E39 said:
A family member has an E350d convertible with the AMG kit, it doesn't make any difference at all. It's quiet and refined. Plus he gets 40 mpg, what's not to like?
It makes no difference if you are ignorant to the alternative.

I have had the E350cdi and as good as it is, it is still a diesel and sounds st. I swapped for the E350 V6 petrol, it sounds glorious in comparison.

Oh, and 10-15% behind the diesel MPG wise too, makes the diesel pointless imho.
Yes, but it's so quiet in diesel guise it doesn't matter. I thought it sounded good when he floored it tbh.

twoblacklines

1,575 posts

161 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Never understood why people buy TDI convertibles.

Just like I never understood why people buy 2.0 tdi Audi TT's.

XMT

3,791 posts

147 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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GTEYE said:
General Fluff said:
GTEYE said:
What do hear in a convertible with the roof down?

I'll answer it for you, its wind noise.

So unless you like to sit in the car stationary with the engine idling, once you're on the move it makes no difference.

It really is a non issue.
Spoken like someone who has never been in a convertible, ever.
Well I do own an E93 330d convertible, so actually I do have some experience.

And I'll stand by the comment, from the driver's seat you hear the engine no differently roof up or down.

Makes me wonder if you've ever tried one?


Edited by GTEYE on Thursday 1st December 14:22


Edited by GTEYE on Thursday 1st December 14:23
GTEYE Sorry but that is total pants. I own a 2011 335i e93 convertible. I can bloody assure you it can be heard on the move!

CubanPete

3,630 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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The 20d auto is a great combination. Plenty of go for normal driving and will be fine noisewise.

Enjoy your new car.