F30 335D delivery dates slipping

F30 335D delivery dates slipping

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JNW1

7,710 posts

193 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Well, no slippage on delivery dates if you don't want with the M-Sport brakes; confirmed my order on 26th August and collect on Sunday (so less than 4 weeks from order to delivery). No complaints at that!

tjlees

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1,382 posts

236 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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evilscooby said:
What do I need to do to talk them into a loan car? And what sort of car do you get? i.e. do they give you a 116d loan car while you are waiting for a 335d. Do you still pay for it monthly?

I would quite like to hand them my s4 now
Sorry missed this - I just asked but noting my original delivery date was july then august and now (still) week 46. No its a loan 320 series, so no 335d and not really as good as a s4 but meant I kept the trade-in deal on mine.

RhysGTI

14 posts

164 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Are you sure it's the brakes holding production?

I ordered a 325d with MSport + mid August and have been phoned to arrange collection next week.


JNW1

7,710 posts

193 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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RhysGTI said:
Are you sure it's the brakes holding production?

I ordered a 325d with MSport + mid August and have been phoned to arrange collection next week.
Interesting! I was certainly told that the M-Sport Plus brakes would delay delivery of a 335 so I wonder if the upgraded brakes are the same regardless of model; I think the 335 has larger brakes as standard so perhaps the upgraded brakes on a 325 aren't exactly the same as those for a 335? I could be talking rubbish but can't think of any other explanation as to how you've got an M-Sport Plus Pack car so quickly while others are being the told about a lengthy delay due to the upgraded braking system....

Mustard

6,992 posts

244 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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RhysGTI said:
Are you sure it's the brakes holding production?

I ordered a 325d with MSport + mid August and have been phoned to arrange collection next week.
Yes it is, you must have got lucky, and your car was built just before the delays started biting... Had stock cars coming through with them built end of Aug before they realised there was going to be issues!

For a limited time BMW are offering an 'M Sport Design Package' as M Sport Plus but sans Brakes for circa £400 less whilst this issue exists

Brake issue effects F20/21/22/30/31/32/33/34/36 (1/2/3/4 series) all models


Edited by Mustard on Sunday 21st September 08:56


Edited by Mustard on Sunday 21st September 08:59

RhysGTI

14 posts

164 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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The M-Sport brakes on the 320i / 320d are 340mm front and 345 rear

The "larger" engines (over 200hp) are 370mm front and 345 rear. I think the XDrive models also have the larger disks.

I've heard whispers that they're being discontinued for the 320x cars.


RhysGTI

14 posts

164 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Mustard said:
Yes it is, you must have got lucky, and your car was built just before the delays started biting... Had stock cars coming through with them built end of Aug before they realised there was going to be issues!

For a limited time BMW are offering an 'M Sport Design Package' as M Sport Plus but sans Brakes for circa £400 less whilst this issue exists
They might have found a box of disks around the back then! It was built last week as the spec isn't off the peg (Estoril Blue, Oyster Leather, Pro Media and a few more bits). The dealer was surprised that the build date had jumped from late October early November to a delivery date of 18th Sept!

Mustard

6,992 posts

244 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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RhysGTI said:
Mustard said:
Yes it is, you must have got lucky, and your car was built just before the delays started biting... Had stock cars coming through with them built end of Aug before they realised there was going to be issues!

For a limited time BMW are offering an 'M Sport Design Package' as M Sport Plus but sans Brakes for circa £400 less whilst this issue exists
They might have found a box of disks around the back then! It was built last week as the spec isn't off the peg (Estoril Blue, Oyster Leather, Pro Media and a few more bits). The dealer was surprised that the build date had jumped from late October early November to a delivery date of 18th Sept!
If you car is at the dealer ready for delivery it was almost certainly built in excess of 10days ago, and confirmed for production 2 weeks prior to that.... So about a week after you ordered it!

As I say you either got lucky or they have found a car in your spec from somewhere

Mattt

16,661 posts

217 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Original Brakes on 335dX, 335i, 335iX are:
Front rotor: 340x30mm (Millimeter) / Brake Caliper with 4 pistons
Rear rotor: 330x20mm / Brake Caliper with 1 piston

Original Brakes on all other models are:
Front rotor: 330x24mm (Millimeter) / Brake Caliper with 1 piston
Rear rotor: 300x20mm / Brake Caliper with 1 piston

Pricelist Option (Factory upgrade) with 2NH M Sport Brakes (blue colored) will bring that to:
Front rotor: 370mm (Millimeter) / Brake Caliper with 4 pistons (for 328i, 335i, 325d, 330d, 335dx) (18" Wheels needed with this rotor in Summer and Winter!!)
Front rotor: 340mm / Brake Caliper with 4 pistons (models below 328i/325d)
Rear rotor: 345mm / Brake Caliper with 2 pistons (on all models)
(So the 2NH option one can order from the factory is different. It is not the same for a "high power" or "low power" model!
High power models (328i, 335i, 325d, 330d, 335dx) get 370mm diameter rotor in the front. Others get 340mm rotor in the front. But the brake caliper will always be blue color)

For all the original brakes with 340mm rotors (335i, 335iX, 335dx) one can buy aftermarket original BMW replacement brake rotors in dimple drilled and slotted flavor.
Front rotor: 340mm = Part Number 34 10 6 797 602

For the factory upgrade with 2NH M Sport Brakes (blue colored) one can also buy aftermarket original BMW replacement brake rotors in dimple drilled and slotted flavor.
Front rotor: 370mm = Part Number 34 10 6 797 603 (18" Wheels needed with this rotor in Summer and Winter!!)
Or
Front rotor: 340mm = Part Number 34 10 6 797 602
(for those cars where the 2NH option just gives an upgrade to 340mm rotors. All below 328i, 325d))

Rear rotor: 345mm (all models) = Part Number 34 20 6 797 598


So and now what about the "M Performance Brakes"?
For a "high power" car owner (328i, 335i, 330d, 335dx):
Basically they are the same as if one would order the 2NH option and then aftermarket change to the rotors to the BMW replacement brake rotors in dimple drilled and slotted flavor.

For a "low power" car owner (models below 328i, 325d):
It's a much bigger upgrade. As they get 370mm front rotors instead of just a 340mm front rotors they would get by the 2NH Sport Brake Option for those models.

So if one is looking for dimple drilled and slotted front and rear rotors, and brake rotors with 370mm in front and 345mm in rear. M Performance Brakes is your choice.
They come in different caliper colors: Yellow, Orange, Red

M Performance Brakes need 18" Wheels in Summer and Winter

M Performance Power Kit (for 330d and 335dX only):
Needs a brake upgrade to S2NHA M Sport Brakes or 18" M Performance Brake!

Front rotor, weight comparision (per piece):
34 11 6 792 223 Standard rotor 340x30mm
10.2 Kilogramm / 22.2 Pounds (weighed my original rotor)

34 10 6 797 602 Slotted/drilled rotor 340x30mm
10.0 Kilogramm / 22 Pounds

34 10 6 797 606 Standard rotor 370x30mm (S2NHA Standard rotor for 335i)
16.50 Kilogramm / 36.4 Pounds (as listed in the parts catalog. probably a typo! Difference on size/volume compared to 340x30 is about 19%. So the calculated weight for the 370x30 is about 11.95 Kilogramm / 26.4 Pounds)

34 10 6 797 603 Slotted/drilled rotor 370x30mm (S2NHA Upgrade rotor or Standard 18" M Perfomance Brake rotor)
11.88 Kilogramm / 26.2 Pounds

Info from F30Post...

evilscooby

57 posts

161 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Has anyone managed to order the "M Sport Design Package" as I don't see it on the online configurator and my dealer isn't aware of it.

Has it changed anyones delivery time and by how much?

Mustard

6,992 posts

244 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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evilscooby said:
Has anyone managed to order the "M Sport Design Package" as I don't see it on the online configurator and my dealer isn't aware of it.

Has it changed anyones delivery time and by how much?
It won't be, it's not being put on the Configurator, as it's purely a temporary offering and may be withdrawn at anytime, your dealer with have it on his ordering system though.

It's as M Sport plus, less the brakes for £400 less


Edited by Mustard on Monday 22 September 21:21

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Slightly different topic but Superchips have just released a remap for the F30/31 335d x drive.

It increases power to 349bhp @4,411 and looking at the graph its still producing at least 325bhp at 5,500rpm

Peak torque is 707Nm @ 2k revs!!!!! While its still producing nearly 400Nm @ 5,500 rpm.



What an engine!

moffat

1,020 posts

224 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Welshbeef said:
Slightly different topic but Superchips have just released a remap for the F30/31 335d x drive.

It increases power to 349bhp @4,411 and looking at the graph its still producing at least 325bhp at 5,500rpm

Peak torque is 707Nm @ 2k revs!!!!! While its still producing nearly 400Nm @ 5,500 rpm.



What an engine!
Excellent! Should be the same remap for my new 640d due for delivery in December??

Any idea on price - is it a remap /bluefin or plugin??

335d

758 posts

117 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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moffat said:
Excellent! Should be the same remap for my new 640d due for delivery in December??

Any idea on price - is it a remap /bluefin or plugin??
The actual test was done on a 640d, so yes it will be the same. £399 according to the link provided by Welshbeef and I think it is a plug-in

335d

758 posts

117 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Just spotted there is no link - here it is http://www.superchips.co.uk/search?make=3&fuel...

Wills2

22,666 posts

174 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Well that is a lot cheaper than the ACS or Hartge plugins.

moffat

1,020 posts

224 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Wills2 said:
Well that is a lot cheaper than the ACS or Hartge plugins.
Yeah, but I understand (to an extent) why the ACS, Hartge and Kellener options cost so much.

I can't see how the Superchips version is any different to the JB-D version http://www.burgertuning.com/BMW_JBD_diesel_perform...

Need to understand how many things that it is changing. The JB-D changes the fueling curve and add's a little more boost.

The expensive options like ACS seem to change more variables within the engine.

With both JB-D and Superchips I think an OBDII tool would be useful for deleting codes.

I've previously used the JB for my old 135i and it did work well but I did need to delete some codes prior to servicing.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Looking at the Superchips site it also shows that the E90 245bhp 330d remap to 313bhp and that rather than being a 245bhp unit its actually 268bhp out of the box... Naughty naughty BMW as the 335d E90 had 286bhp so a very small power diff.


So really a used buyer could get the LCI 330d e90 and have a quicker out of the box car than the f30 335d though the x drive and 8 speed do make a chunk of difference --- still its an option for what 50% or less £ in the first place.


I guess those on RWD E90 335ds mapped to 350bhp must be rather happy

Mattt

16,661 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Well if all you care about is speed then maybe, but IMO the E90 and F30 are quite different cars in many areas.

Wills2

22,666 posts

174 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Welshbeef said:
So really a used buyer could get the LCI 330d e90 and have a quicker out of the box car than the f30 335d
An e90 330d isn't quicker out of the box than a f30 335d at all, your looking at 6.1 vs 4.8 to 62 a big difference.