Will this be a write off? Estimated repair cost?

Will this be a write off? Estimated repair cost?

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ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

174 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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Trailhead said:
loskie said:
Your insurance asks "have you had any accidents claims or convictions?"
There's always one isn't there...

The answer would be no, because what you do off road falls outside of the remit of insurance, like track days for instance.

Stop trying to cause trouble, it isn't the purpose of this thread.
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Good one, I hope you and your mate don't actually believe this?

loskie

5,248 posts

121 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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Funny how there is always a "friend" who's problem it is.

Trailhead

Original Poster:

2,628 posts

148 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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ZOLLAR said:
Trailhead said:
loskie said:
Your insurance asks "have you had any accidents claims or convictions?"
There's always one isn't there...

The answer would be no, because what you do off road falls outside of the remit of insurance, like track days for instance.

Stop trying to cause trouble, it isn't the purpose of this thread.
laugh

Good one, I hope you and your mate don't actually believe this?
As far as I was aware, if you have a right to use private land to which the general public does not have access then you are within your rights to drive on that land without insurance - so if you do damage your car then I can't see why your policy for the road would need notifying.

Not that I am insurance whizz and its not my car anyway, so not really bothered either way.

He's going to sort it out himself so this thread was more about the cost to repair the car!

4rephill

5,041 posts

179 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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Trailhead said:
ZOLLAR said:
Trailhead said:
loskie said:
Your insurance asks "have you had any accidents claims or convictions?"
There's always one isn't there...

The answer would be no, because what you do off road falls outside of the remit of insurance, like track days for instance.

Stop trying to cause trouble, it isn't the purpose of this thread.
laugh

Good one, I hope you and your mate don't actually believe this?
As far as I was aware, if you have a right to use private land to which the general public does not have access then you are within your rights to drive on that land without insurance - so if you do damage your car then I can't see why your policy for the road would need notifying.

Not that I am insurance whizz and its not my car anyway, so not really bothered either way.

He's going to sort it out himself so this thread was more about the cost to repair the car!
So if you crash your car on private land, causing damage to the chassis that results in the car being dangerous to drive, as far as you're concerned you can just re-panel the car, not bother to tell the insurance company and continue to drive the car on the road?

In that case, I take it you also assume that should you then have an accident on the public highway due to the damage, your insurance company will completely overlook the undeclared damage and payout regardless? scratchchin - Good luck with that theory!

(Of course, this theory doesn't take into account that you'd probably not declare the damage, re-panel the car and paint it and then sell it on for some innocent next owner to end up in a serious accident due to the car being an undeclared write-off! A case of: I'm all right jack! - fcensoredk everyone else!)

As for that damage being repaired for £800~£1000, I hate to think how shonky that repair will be!

Bumper's fcensoredked, rear light's fcensoredked, rear quarter panel's fcensoredked, boot floor/rear inner wheel arch looks to be fcensoredked.

For £800~£1000, that's not going to be repaired properly! (Still, as you say he's: "a young lad", I'm sure he won't give a scensoredt about whether it's repaired correctly and safely or not!)

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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Trailhead said:
He didn't because he doesn't want the insurance co to know anything about it - he is a young lad!
Oh right, understand that.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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4rephill said:
So if you crash your car on private land, causing damage to the chassis that results in the car being dangerous to drive, as far as you're concerned you can just re-panel the car, not bother to tell the insurance company and continue to drive the car on the road?

In that case, I take it you also assume that should you then have an accident on the public highway due to the damage, your insurance company will completely overlook the undeclared damage and payout regardless? scratchchin - Good luck with that theory!

(Of course, this theory doesn't take into account that you'd probably not declare the damage, re-panel the car and paint it and then sell it on for some innocent next owner to end up in a serious accident due to the car being an undeclared write-off! A case of: I'm all right jack! - fcensoredk everyone else!)

As for that damage being repaired for £800~£1000, I hate to think how shonky that repair will be!

Bumper's fcensoredked, rear light's fcensoredked, rear quarter panel's fcensoredked, boot floor/rear inner wheel arch looks to be fcensoredked.

For £800~£1000, that's not going to be repaired properly! (Still, as you say he's: "a young lad", I'm sure he won't give a scensoredt about whether it's repaired correctly and safely or not!)
So if you scraped a wall and needed some paint work done, you would call your insurer to let them know would you?

Trailhead

Original Poster:

2,628 posts

148 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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4rephill said:
Trailhead said:
ZOLLAR said:
Trailhead said:
loskie said:
Your insurance asks "have you had any accidents claims or convictions?"
There's always one isn't there...

The answer would be no, because what you do off road falls outside of the remit of insurance, like track days for instance.

Stop trying to cause trouble, it isn't the purpose of this thread.
laugh

Good one, I hope you and your mate don't actually believe this?
As far as I was aware, if you have a right to use private land to which the general public does not have access then you are within your rights to drive on that land without insurance - so if you do damage your car then I can't see why your policy for the road would need notifying.

Not that I am insurance whizz and its not my car anyway, so not really bothered either way.

He's going to sort it out himself so this thread was more about the cost to repair the car!
So if you crash your car on private land, causing damage to the chassis that results in the car being dangerous to drive, as far as you're concerned you can just re-panel the car, not bother to tell the insurance company and continue to drive the car on the road?

In that case, I take it you also assume that should you then have an accident on the public highway due to the damage, your insurance company will completely overlook the undeclared damage and payout regardless? scratchchin - Good luck with that theory!

(Of course, this theory doesn't take into account that you'd probably not declare the damage, re-panel the car and paint it and then sell it on for some innocent next owner to end up in a serious accident due to the car being an undeclared write-off! A case of: I'm all right jack! - fcensoredk everyone else!)

As for that damage being repaired for £800~£1000, I hate to think how shonky that repair will be!

Bumper's fcensoredked, rear light's fcensoredked, rear quarter panel's fcensoredked, boot floor/rear inner wheel arch looks to be fcensoredked.

For £800~£1000, that's not going to be repaired properly! (Still, as you say he's: "a young lad", I'm sure he won't give a scensoredt about whether it's repaired correctly and safely or not!)
Wow.

You are assuming the repair will leave the car unroadworthy, which of course would be a completely different kettle of fish.

You are also assuming if/when he sells it that he wouldn't declare any accident damage.

Lots of totally random assumptions that only he could answer anyway.

Personally, I would expect it to be roadworthy since a proper bodyshop is doing the work. I am sceptical it will be up to my standards, but you get what you pay for.

4rephill

5,041 posts

179 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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gizlaroc said:
So if you scraped a wall and needed some paint work done, you would call your insurer to let them know would you?
Based on the contract for insurance that you make with the insurance company, you're supposed to, yes!

The reason being, if you're someone who regularly hits posts/gates/garden walls/buildings etc., etc., then you're classified by the insurance companies as someone who is a higher risk to other road users than someone who doesn't hit them!

It's all to do with the insurance company making an accurate assessment as to the likelihood of the driver being involved in an accident.

That people choose not to do so, is besides the point.


Do you honestly believe that drivers who are prone to hitting posts/gates/garden walls/buildings etc., etc., pose no more a risk of an accident/incident than those that don't? scratchchin



gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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4rephill said:
gizlaroc said:
So if you scraped a wall and needed some paint work done, you would call your insurer to let them know would you?
Based on the contract for insurance that you make with the insurance company, you're supposed to, yes!
So if you scraped a wall and needed some paint work done, you would call your insurer to let them know would you?

4rephill

5,041 posts

179 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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gizlaroc said:
4rephill said:
gizlaroc said:
So if you scraped a wall and needed some paint work done, you would call your insurer to let them know would you?
Based on the contract for insurance that you make with the insurance company, you're supposed to, yes!
So if you scraped a wall and needed some paint work done, you would call your insurer to let them know would you?
I'm a good enough driver not to scrape a wall in the first place so it's a non-issue for Me!

loskie

5,248 posts

121 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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You may regret saying that!!!!!

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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4rephill said:
gizlaroc said:
4rephill said:
gizlaroc said:
So if you scraped a wall and needed some paint work done, you would call your insurer to let them know would you?
Based on the contract for insurance that you make with the insurance company, you're supposed to, yes!
So if you scraped a wall and needed some paint work done, you would call your insurer to let them know would you?
I'm a good enough driver not to scrape a wall in the first place so it's a non-issue for Me!
That is a no then. biggrin

Trailhead

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2,628 posts

148 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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Car is back from the shop now. Haven't seen it in the flesh yet, but my friend has just sent me this picture and says you can't tell the difference. It cost £985 and some beer!

Thanks to everyone who posted helpful comments!!


gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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Trailhead said:
...my friend has just sent me this picture and says you can't tell the difference.
What, still looks smashed up??

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