Unnerving thread on babybmw re engine starting up

Unnerving thread on babybmw re engine starting up

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smashy

Original Poster:

3,030 posts

157 months

James_G

345 posts

183 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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User error though, isn't it. Walk away from the car with stop/start activated and low and behold the car starts up.

Still not seen a picture of your 330D Luxury now that it has ACS springs fitted by the way.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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James_G said:
User error though, isn't it. Walk away from the car with stop/start activated and low and behold the car starts up.

Still not seen a picture of your 330D Luxury now that it has ACS springs fitted by the way.
Surely if one locks the doors and walks away, the system should know not to restart?

ManiacGT

537 posts

174 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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So happy I don't have this 'feature'.

smashy

Original Poster:

3,030 posts

157 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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James_G said:
User error though, isn't it. Walk away from the car with stop/start activated and low and behold the car starts up.

Still not seen a picture of your 330D Luxury now that it has ACS springs fitted by the way.
No good at photos james,........,but if you read all of thread and the other links in said thread ,its not that simple,

4rephill

5,040 posts

177 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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User error - End of!

The owner failed to ensure the car was switched off when they left the car.

It's interesting to read how some people think that it's the cars fault for not realising that the door being closed and locked should mean that the stop/start should no longer function - So the owner shouldn't have to take any responsibility anymore for ensuring that everything is switched off correctly?


smashy

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3,030 posts

157 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Ok lets get this right ,genuinly, So you get in, drive where your going with the stop start on.Get to your destination turn the engine off and get out lock the door, So your saying you should also turn the stop/ start off as well ?

Firstly when the dealer took me through the car he never mentioned that,secondly ive done that dozens of times in the 6 weeks ive had my car and nothing happens my engine nere restarts.

Im not convinced,


Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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smashy said:
Ok lets get this right ,genuinly, So you get in, drive where your going with the stop start on.Get to your destination turn the engine off and get out lock the door, So your saying you should also turn the stop/ start off as well ?

Firstly when the dealer took me through the car he never mentioned that,secondly ive done that dozens of times in the 6 weeks ive had my car and nothing happens my engine nere restarts.

Im not convinced,

No Smashy,

As an example, I got to the gym last night I parked up and engine goes off (on the auto start stop) I pull handbrake on and put the auto in P the engine is still off. (but it's not properly off)

So if I'm not thinking I could just jump out lock the car and walk off and the engine could/would eventually start up again.

It's user error by failing to turn the car off.


smashy

Original Poster:

3,030 posts

157 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Yes yes yes got you now,well done.

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Ever so slightly off topic but I have to say I hate the stop/start function with a passion and it's become a habit to switch it off immediately after I've switched the ignition on; it must save all of a thimble-full of fuel and it's presumably just another invention to make the published fuel consumption figures look better in the highly artificial tests. However, the continual stopping and starting in traffic or at giveways at junctions/roundabouts drives me nuts and if I could turn the feature off permanently I would!

Interestingly, a relation of my next-door neighbour works in a technical capacity for Mercedes UK and reckons the function is also a menace because of the additional demands it places on various components as a result of the repeated starting and stopping (so starter motor, various belts, etc). I'm sure the official line from the manufacturers will be that the relevant parts have been strengthened to cope with the extra stresses and strains but if someone with inside knowledge is saying "If it was my car I'd switch it off" it probably tells you all you need to know. Personally I turn it off because I think it's rubbish but from the sounds of it I'm probably doing my car a favour as well!

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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It's a pain in the arse!

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Wills2 said:
It's a pain in the arse!
Indeed it is but I decided it was stupid to be irritated by something I can turn-off and hence I do exactly that at the start of each journey! As I say, just a pity you can't turn it off permanently (unless there's a facility to do so buried in the depths of the i-drive menu which I'm not aware of?).

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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You might be able to code it out but I think it's more DIY than an official dealer option.

I generally turn it off but sometimes you forget and only realise when it messes up at the junction you wanted to nip out of.


JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Wills2 said:
I generally turn it off but sometimes you forget and only realise when it messes up at the junction you wanted to nip out of.
Yep, been there and got that T-Shirt!!

knitware

1,473 posts

192 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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I once turned the stop start off at a give way, only I didn't, I turned the car off! rolleyes

I don't mind the feature but the on/off button should be placed in a clearer position.

RichardM5

1,733 posts

135 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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You can code the stop start to remember the state of the button, so if you turn it off it will remain off until you turn it on again. Should be like that as standard IMO.

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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RichardM5 said:
You can code the stop start to remember the state of the button, so if you turn it off it will remain off until you turn it on again. Should be like that as standard IMO.
How do you do that then?!

Wills2

22,669 posts

174 months

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Wills2 said:
smashy said:
Ok lets get this right ,genuinly, So you get in, drive where your going with the stop start on.Get to your destination turn the engine off and get out lock the door, So your saying you should also turn the stop/ start off as well ?

Firstly when the dealer took me through the car he never mentioned that,secondly ive done that dozens of times in the 6 weeks ive had my car and nothing happens my engine nere restarts.

Im not convinced,

No Smashy,

As an example, I got to the gym last night I parked up and engine goes off (on the auto start stop) I pull handbrake on and put the auto in P the engine is still off. (but it's not properly off)

So if I'm not thinking I could just jump out lock the car and walk off and the engine could/would eventually start up again.

It's user error by failing to turn the car off.

That is simply ridiculous!

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Wills2 said:
LOL; I was hoping for an option I could click in the i-Drive to disable it but clearly not! I'm reasonably computer literate but am not about to risk screwing things up and voiding the warranty on a new £40k car - I will therefore just stick to turning the stop/start off each time I start the car!