630i convertible M sport.......circa 2006 / 2008
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It is an interesting point, the 6 series did not have an M Sport option as such, just simply a Sport pack. It was available on the 630i's and 650i's.
I actually have a late 2005 brochure and the "Sport" pack consists of the following:
Style 218 19" Wheels 8.5j/9j
High Gloss Shadow line (black trim instead of chrome round the window edges, washer jets and mirror bases)
M Sports leather steering wheel
Sports Seats
Dark Birch wood trim
Anthracite Headlining (obviously not on a convertible!)
As it happens my 650i is NOT a sport, but it did have the Birch wood trim, sports seats and Anthracite headlining as options, I have since found, refurbed and fitted a set of style 218 19's and it now looks fantastic.
There are no mechanical changes in the suspension, exhaust or engine etc. Unlike the rest of the BMW range where the M sports often had sport suspension etc
I actually have a late 2005 brochure and the "Sport" pack consists of the following:
Style 218 19" Wheels 8.5j/9j
High Gloss Shadow line (black trim instead of chrome round the window edges, washer jets and mirror bases)
M Sports leather steering wheel
Sports Seats
Dark Birch wood trim
Anthracite Headlining (obviously not on a convertible!)
As it happens my 650i is NOT a sport, but it did have the Birch wood trim, sports seats and Anthracite headlining as options, I have since found, refurbed and fitted a set of style 218 19's and it now looks fantastic.
There are no mechanical changes in the suspension, exhaust or engine etc. Unlike the rest of the BMW range where the M sports often had sport suspension etc
Edited by quavey on Wednesday 24th December 13:12
Don't know if it helps but give serious consideration to a 645... the earlier ones are very reasonably priced, they are a fair bit quicker than the 630 and the soundtrack is to die for.
Depending on the mileage you do you may not really notice the difference in economy either. My 330i average 30mpg and my 645 did 26.
Depending on the mileage you do you may not really notice the difference in economy either. My 330i average 30mpg and my 645 did 26.
We have a 2002 330 convertible and a 2005 650 Coupe. I normally do about 600 miles per week (same journeys most weeks). The MPG difference between the two cars is nothing on a long run, even though you travel faster in the 650. The 330 is more economical on short runs by about 20%. Try both, the V8's do feel quite a bit quicker (loads of low down torque).
Overall, I think the difference in fuel is less than 10%.
We are at 124k now in the 6, and additional costs for running a 6 cylinder over a V8, have been minimal (6 plugs Vs 8 every 60k miles) and an extra litre of oil at service time.
They are a beautiful car and SWMBO really fancies a 650 convertible next.
Good luck.
Overall, I think the difference in fuel is less than 10%.
We are at 124k now in the 6, and additional costs for running a 6 cylinder over a V8, have been minimal (6 plugs Vs 8 every 60k miles) and an extra litre of oil at service time.
They are a beautiful car and SWMBO really fancies a 650 convertible next.
Good luck.
Ok so I have been reading the thread ........If I were to pull the trigger what model do I go for? I want a convertible, I always thought the newer the better so for my £12k budget that would mean a 07 or possible a 08 630i. But it seems the majority are saying go for the 645 or the 650? Both it appears only run from 04 - 05 !!! Is there much difference between the 645 & the 650? if so in what way ie spec performance etc? Are there any major issues I should be looking out for? Do I go for the lowest milage car I can find in my budget or does milage not really matter on a V8? Or is it best to look for overall condition & a full service history? Help me out here guys I am new to this whole BMW numbers game........
650 (4.8 Litre) replaced the 645 (4.4 Litre) in late 2005. Since then there has always been a 650 in the range. From memory the 630 Vs 645 Vs 650 stats are 258/329/368 BHP, 236/332/362 ft-lb. The 0 to 62 is (630) 6.5 Vs 5.4 seconds (650). You will need to add circa 0.3 of a sec for the convertible.
When I asked about the differences between the 645 (only made 2004 to late 2005) and the 650, I was told that there were numerous quality improvements and the 650 was a little more economical, together with the new engine. The I-drive improved with each iteration and the post LCI version has paddles to manually shift with different headrests. If it were me I would get a 650 with low mileage (not that mileage is an issue, mine is on 128k now). Contrary to what a dealer may tell you, 4.8 Litre V8's are not easy to sell and cheeky offers / private would be the way to go.
Final note: be wary of the spec, as some can be very basic and difficult to sell on. Mail me via my profile if you want the spec list.
Cheers
When I asked about the differences between the 645 (only made 2004 to late 2005) and the 650, I was told that there were numerous quality improvements and the 650 was a little more economical, together with the new engine. The I-drive improved with each iteration and the post LCI version has paddles to manually shift with different headrests. If it were me I would get a 650 with low mileage (not that mileage is an issue, mine is on 128k now). Contrary to what a dealer may tell you, 4.8 Litre V8's are not easy to sell and cheeky offers / private would be the way to go.
Final note: be wary of the spec, as some can be very basic and difficult to sell on. Mail me via my profile if you want the spec list.
Cheers
Seems odds, but get one with a cup holder - storage space in these are pants and there is nowhere to put any sort of can/bottle etc - should sit on the passenger side of the trans tunnel.
Avoid the dynamic driving pack as well, steering feels worse and has a tendency to go wrong.
If you are looking at cars with run flats and 19" wheels, see if you can get it on a ramp and check for cracks on the inner edges - they can crack quite easily and can be repaired by specialists for about 80-100
Avoid the dynamic driving pack as well, steering feels worse and has a tendency to go wrong.
If you are looking at cars with run flats and 19" wheels, see if you can get it on a ramp and check for cracks on the inner edges - they can crack quite easily and can be repaired by specialists for about 80-100
mattman said:
Seems odds, but get one with a cup holder - storage space in these are pants and there is nowhere to put any sort of can/bottle etc - should sit on the passenger side of the trans tunnel.
Avoid the dynamic driving pack as well, steering feels worse and has a tendency to go wrong.
If you are looking at cars with run flats and 19" wheels, see if you can get it on a ramp and check for cracks on the inner edges - they can crack quite easily and can be repaired by specialists for about 80-100
I would agree with the above, professional Nav is also a must (wider screen and twin optical drive in the dash)Avoid the dynamic driving pack as well, steering feels worse and has a tendency to go wrong.
If you are looking at cars with run flats and 19" wheels, see if you can get it on a ramp and check for cracks on the inner edges - they can crack quite easily and can be repaired by specialists for about 80-100
Mine is a pretty basic spec, and has no auxiliary in or CD changer (or heated seats or cup holder!) But it does have Logic 7 (superb) and the professional nav, I do wish it had the cup holder and heated seats but it wasnt going to be a deal breaker. There are not THAT many about so its often a case of getting what you can, I only looked at a couple and drove one other but was fixed on a 650i, nothing else would do coming from my E39 M5 and it doesn't disappoint. The power and noise is certainly impressive, I'll get flamed for this but I've said it before its every bit as fast as my old M5 and sounds better with the standard filters and exhaust etc. They are even economical, a 2500 mile drive through europe this year with the other half saw us average just over 31mpg over the trip.
Went to see a 650 at the w/e externally body work in very good condition with the exception of the bonnet which seemed to have an abnormal amount of small stone chips that had been touched up with a stightly darker shade of the paint colour. Interestingly the front grill & lights area had no where near as many stone chips.......One of the headlaps had quite bad condensation (which the dealer put down to a powerful jet wash)! Either way a new headlamp is an expensive item. The interior was the cream colour & it seemed a tad grubby. Now I am a fussy bu66er & they said it would have a full vallet before handing over to a new owner, along with a full ticket with any advisories taken care of (independantly).
Bearing in mind this car ticked (pretty much) all my boxes am I being a bit picky after all its a 2005 car with just over 100k miles.......but on the other hand its the first one I've seen. I would also need to get the bonnet resprayed......should I be walking away?
Bearing in mind this car ticked (pretty much) all my boxes am I being a bit picky after all its a 2005 car with just over 100k miles.......but on the other hand its the first one I've seen. I would also need to get the bonnet resprayed......should I be walking away?
Put it on the maybe list and look at some others to gauge against - not a burgundy 55 plate was it? if so I think that is an individual colour and fairly rare
The bumper and wings are plastic so tend to pickup less obvious stone chips than the bonnet. That bonnet is a big flat bit of metal and trust me you will notice every chip each time you wash it. I had a mark on mine which i missed when buying and it annoyed me everytime i saw it
The cream leather can be cleaned up very well by a professional valet, but like you I'd want to see it after cleaning before committing to a purchase.
Other thing to check is the drivers seat bolster - check on the bottom outer side to see if there is a 'fag burn' hole in the leather - i found this on a couple of cars i looked at and is easily missed due to the position and angle - its caused by the heater element in the seat being too close to the leather and burns its way through - can give a bit of a burn too if you aren't careful.
Check you have plenty of tread on the tyres too. On the plus side, these are all great negotiating points and i'm sure they won't be selling it too quickly so you don't have to jump in.
The bumper and wings are plastic so tend to pickup less obvious stone chips than the bonnet. That bonnet is a big flat bit of metal and trust me you will notice every chip each time you wash it. I had a mark on mine which i missed when buying and it annoyed me everytime i saw it
The cream leather can be cleaned up very well by a professional valet, but like you I'd want to see it after cleaning before committing to a purchase.
Other thing to check is the drivers seat bolster - check on the bottom outer side to see if there is a 'fag burn' hole in the leather - i found this on a couple of cars i looked at and is easily missed due to the position and angle - its caused by the heater element in the seat being too close to the leather and burns its way through - can give a bit of a burn too if you aren't careful.
Check you have plenty of tread on the tyres too. On the plus side, these are all great negotiating points and i'm sure they won't be selling it too quickly so you don't have to jump in.
Edited by mattman on Monday 5th January 15:32
mattman said:
not a burgundy 55 plate was it? if so I think that is an individual colour and fairly rare.
It was actually, does anyone know the car? Must admit I quite like the spec although I appreciate its not to everyones taste & re-sale maybe interesting. Edited by mattman on Monday 5th January 15:32
Does anyone know how may convertibles 650 & 645 were made in that colour (barbera red)? I guess if thats the colour I like & they are few & far between I might have to just 'live' with the stone chips until I can get the bonnet repainted & make sure they fix the light & do a proper clean on the interior!!!!
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