330d / 335d touring lease deals or am I wrong?
Discussion
JNW1 said:
Welshbeef said:
Those times are all available
Really? What are the 30-90mph times for an F31 335i and an F31 335d then? Never seen that increment quoted and in truth I don't think I've ever seen a full set of independent road test figures for either car....drmark said:
It's the effortless overtake with a twitch of the right foot I love. The 335i is in the same league but just has to be worked that bit harder to give its best. Plus there is a 10mpg difference twixt the two in the real world according to Autocar.
But, as I said, each to their own.
Can't disagree that the 335d does have effortless go! However, an F31 335i is more than likely going to be an auto and I'm not sure it would be much less effortless; obviously the engine will be spinning a bit faster to achieve the same acceleration but that's not really a hardship given the N55 is smooth throughout the rev range and sounds good when extended! But, as I said, each to their own.
As for fuel consumption, a 10mpg difference is overstating things in my experience. The diesel is certainly better but it appears to miss its combined figure by rather more than the petrol; therefore, for a low mileage driver like the OP I can't imagine the difference in fuel cost will be significant in the context of the overall cost of running the car. However, he obviously quite likes the idea of a diesel so my advice would be to have a run in a 335i and a 330/335d and choose which he prefers; as you rightly say, each to their own!
Welshbeef said:
I don't have them to hand but readily available are the 0-130mph in 10mph increments so you can work out the 30-90mph.
Hmm, not really because that builds-in the initial 4wd advantage off the line for the 335d. I'm more thinking of having the two cars travelling at a steady 30mph (as you could be in a queue of traffic) and then flooring it to see how long they take to pick-up and get to 90; my guess is that if both cars were sport autos and in kickdown there wouldn't be much in it although I can vouch for the fact that the 335d is pretty quick in those circumstances....http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=...
There is a speed increment v time in this for the 335d. Basically f
king fast.
There is a speed increment v time in this for the 335d. Basically f
king fast. I bought a 330d M Sport F31 and I have run it for 7 months.
OP, I was like you some time ago, I was looking at a BMW 3 series estate and I was adamant I wanted the 335i.
I ignored the 335d as it’s only available in an xDrive, to me it’s quite pointlessness and the extra weight put me off so it was dismissed as a possibility, besides it’s not rear wheel drive. Super engine though!
I test drove the 335i and it’s beautiful, effortless and smooth, and I drove a 328i and out of hand I test drove the 330d. I didn’t want a diesel because I only do 8k miles a year but the 330d was incredible, it blew me away.
The 330d is smooth and so quick, the torque is addictive and immense. It made the 335i look less of a prospect, a little bit weedy. I have the same 0-60 better economy, smaller road tax and a lot more torque, with the addition of the PPK it is outstanding, it could pull up trees!
But it’s more than that, put the engine choice aside and even if you opt for the 320d the 3 series is a beautiful piece of engineering. The 8 speed auto, comfy seats, a fantastic chassis all fantastic and if you add the AC Schnitzer springs you will have the best handling car in this sector bar non.
So my recommendation is the 330d, even for low mileage, but the 335i is amazing too. You need to have a test drive in both, we can’t answer for you just offer up our own experience.
OP, I was like you some time ago, I was looking at a BMW 3 series estate and I was adamant I wanted the 335i.
I ignored the 335d as it’s only available in an xDrive, to me it’s quite pointlessness and the extra weight put me off so it was dismissed as a possibility, besides it’s not rear wheel drive. Super engine though!
I test drove the 335i and it’s beautiful, effortless and smooth, and I drove a 328i and out of hand I test drove the 330d. I didn’t want a diesel because I only do 8k miles a year but the 330d was incredible, it blew me away.
The 330d is smooth and so quick, the torque is addictive and immense. It made the 335i look less of a prospect, a little bit weedy. I have the same 0-60 better economy, smaller road tax and a lot more torque, with the addition of the PPK it is outstanding, it could pull up trees!
But it’s more than that, put the engine choice aside and even if you opt for the 320d the 3 series is a beautiful piece of engineering. The 8 speed auto, comfy seats, a fantastic chassis all fantastic and if you add the AC Schnitzer springs you will have the best handling car in this sector bar non.
So my recommendation is the 330d, even for low mileage, but the 335i is amazing too. You need to have a test drive in both, we can’t answer for you just offer up our own experience.
blujez said:
Regarding the media system, on 2 occasions I have been offered cars with no business media and they seem unable to tell me what's there instead - a hole?? I simply cannot work it out?
Whats there instead is exactly the same screen only with no 'Navigation' option in the menu.
Thanks for all the advice here. A lot of love for the 3 series clearly 
and just to clarify I have an old Alfa 159 sw 2.4 jtdm and simply got addicted to the torque! But realise that at my mileage I find the dpf just well annoying. Mind you if it's because the missus tootles round all week it does give me an excuse to 'clear it out' at the weekends... So to speak.
If you see a good lease deal please flick it my way. The 'essential options' everyone talks about don't half drive that lease cost up!
Have a good un
and just to clarify I have an old Alfa 159 sw 2.4 jtdm and simply got addicted to the torque! But realise that at my mileage I find the dpf just well annoying. Mind you if it's because the missus tootles round all week it does give me an excuse to 'clear it out' at the weekends... So to speak. If you see a good lease deal please flick it my way. The 'essential options' everyone talks about don't half drive that lease cost up!
Have a good un
blujez said:
If you see a good lease deal please flick it my way. The 'essential options' everyone talks about don't half drive that lease cost up!
Yes, think with options you effectively end-up paying for most of the cost across the term of the lease so if you only do (say) a 2-year agreement the monthly payments can increase quite significantly if you start loading the car with expensive extras! These people www.contracthireandleasing.com are often suggested as a decent comparison site for lease deals so maybe have a look on there? JNW1 said:
tjlees said:
What about secondhand? - there are some cracking e90 m3 at the about the same price as a 335i.
Wasn't the OP wanting a Touring? Second hand S4 Avant could be worth a look though...For course with the new 335i a tweak to ASD module (model=f80 and engine=S55) and you have got the M3 sounds - at least on the inside of a F31 touring.
Welshbeef said:
Both are good - the 335i total ownership cost will be much less than a 335d over that milage. Ie a big premium to prefer the surge.
I haven't seen any better lease deals on the 335i than the 335d for some time now.What sort of overall cost are you talking about for the 335i here?
PorkInsider said:
I haven't seen any better lease deals on the 335i than the 335d for some time now.
What sort of overall cost are you talking about for the 335i here?
Don't waste your time, he spouts all sorts of nonsense and backs none of it up. I would take a 335i over a 335d every day of the week but the TCO won't be lower, it'll probably be higher.What sort of overall cost are you talking about for the 335i here?
335i v 335d on lease are about the same. 335i is £3/month more.
http://www.fleetprices.co.uk/business-lease-cars/b...
Professional media is another £5/m.
http://www.fleetprices.co.uk/business-lease-cars/b...
Professional media is another £5/m.
Welshbeef said:
Fox- said:
Don't waste your time, he spouts all sorts of nonsense and backs none of it up. I would take a 335i over a 335d every day of the week but the TCO won't be lower, it'll probably be higher.
Fox see the post above seems you shoot from the hip a little too often I had a look myself and saw the same thing.
So we are back to me wondering why you're saying the TCO for the 335i will be 'much less' and the 335d would incur a 'significant premium'?
I'm genuinely interested to know if there are better places to look for cheap leases than I've found myself.
Welshbeef said:
Fox see the post above seems you shoot from the hip a little too often
The post above shows that the 335i is £3 a month more expensive to lease. If they had identical fuel consumption then the TCO would be £3 a month higher. But they don't - even though IMHO the fuel economy savings are not worth having they are still fuel economy savings and still impact the TCO. So the TCO on the 335i is quite clearly higher than that of the 335d.I hope you are not expected to assess TCO as part of your role as finance director.
Fox- said:
The post above shows that the 335i is £3 a month more expensive to lease. If they had identical fuel consumption then the TCO would be £3 a month higher. But they don't - even though IMHO the fuel economy savings are not worth having they are still fuel economy savings and still impact the TCO. So the TCO on the 335i is quite clearly higher than that of the 335d.
I hope you are not expected to assess TCO as part of your role as finance director.
Guess there must be a but of jealousy being out in practice v the commercial world but hey ho I don't begrudge anyone nor do I keep banging out profile info as is your MO. I hope you are not expected to assess TCO as part of your role as finance director.
Strange really.
As you were
Gassing Station | BMW General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff