BMW Z4 E89. Why won't it sell??

BMW Z4 E89. Why won't it sell??

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Fox-

13,227 posts

245 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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XMT said:
90% of the time its price which it looks like in your case it is.
He sold the car 18 months ago?

People are too quick to slash prices on more niche cars.

XMT

3,774 posts

146 months

Sunday 21st August 2016
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Vroomer said:
XMT said:
90% of the time its price which it looks like in your case it is.

Private sellers tend of have a bad habit of doing this (over pricing!), compare your car to what dealers are selling them for, at this price point you need to be around 3k lower.

If your car has double the millage that another car at a dealer has then take a further 1.5k off too.
Your colour combo (black/Black?) is the dullest combo possile (no offense). Black with oyster leather, white with black, white with red would be MUCH MUCH better, its a z4!.

As others have said your advert doesn't help either. Good Luck!
Colour is a personal thing: I think black & black is one of the best. And I find your choices a bit tacky! (No offence!)
Of course its a personal thing, black on black I find boring as hell and bit dull, I find my variables probably more appealing and certainly not tacky. Just my opinion tho wink

Spuffington

1,203 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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ruggedscotty said:
the 23i sdrive I beg to differ about the comparison to the MX5....

The Z is roomier and the 23 has a six cylinder 205hp engine. get the roof down and hoof a 23i and you will see the difference to the MX5. plus the MX5 isnt German.

picked mine up three years ago for 15k. think I could sell it now for 12-13k people want the six for the noise.
This!

I testdrove my 23i more on the basis of wanting a 30i or 35i but checking the car out on how it handled and how comfy it was. After 90min testdrive I formed the opinion that more power wasn't actually going to improve it and the 23i was both torquey enough and a pleasure to rev out. And the sound is glorious when compared with the newer range of 4-pots.

Having come from a 550i a few years back, which was an amazing beast to own, I'm actually more interested in a car I can wring out and enjoy running through the gears than one I have to lift off early from for fear of loosing my license.

Each to their own though.

ruggedscotty

5,606 posts

208 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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I did find a 35 a tad fast - and the 23 or 30 was in my range, id looked at a new one i could have got a base for not much more than what I had but trouble is it was basic. and had a tiddly engine.

The 23 is much more usable on our roads - not getting too fast too quickly or blisteringly fast like the 35.

yes its not fast pretty slow 150 mph and hitting sixty in less than 7 seconds, thats just a poor show....

been known to give it the beans in the clyde tunnel thats awesome - you realise just how good a six is. Its part of the experience and I felt the 4 pot was just not there. Oh yes I know you can get a 28 with 260 horse but its a four....

gcb202

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8 posts

189 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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I don't think black on black helped but as others point out after trying the two litre cars most are more than happy with the ride and performance.

It was a great car and so quick. I moved with work to the centre of a busy town, so my new mode of transport is walkingfrown

honest_delboy

1,492 posts

199 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Educate me, the 35i engine in the E89 is the later version so not prone to turbo wastegate, HPFP issues ?


Fox-

13,227 posts

245 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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honest_delboy said:
Educate me, the 35i engine in the E89 is the later version so not prone to turbo wastegate, HPFP issues ?

It's both. Started with the N54 twin turbo, later changed to the N55 single turbo.

JNW1

7,696 posts

193 months

Monday 22nd August 2016
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Fox- said:
honest_delboy said:
Educate me, the 35i engine in the E89 is the later version so not prone to turbo wastegate, HPFP issues ?

It's both. Started with the N54 twin turbo, later changed to the N55 single turbo.
Don't know why but I've got it in my mind the Z4 has always had the N54 engine and never migrated to the N55? BMW's website suggests the current 35i engine has two turbos and CO2 emissions of over 200g/km which sounds like the N54 to me.....

JonV8V

7,173 posts

123 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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JNW1 said:
Fox- said:
honest_delboy said:
Educate me, the 35i engine in the E89 is the later version so not prone to turbo wastegate, HPFP issues ?

It's both. Started with the N54 twin turbo, later changed to the N55 single turbo.
Don't know why but I've got it in my mind the Z4 has always had the N54 engine and never migrated to the N55? BMW's website suggests the current 35i engine has two turbos and CO2 emissions of over 200g/km which sounds like the N54 to me.....
+1
Z4 stayed with the N54

ruggedscotty

5,606 posts

208 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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the 35i is still a three litre twin turbo engine.

Fox-

13,227 posts

245 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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JonV8V said:
+1
Z4 stayed with the N54
Every day's a schoolday. I wonder why it didn't move to N55 with the rest of the E9x platform?

JonV8V

7,173 posts

123 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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Fox- said:
JonV8V said:
+1
Z4 stayed with the N54
Every day's a schoolday. I wonder why it didn't move to N55 with the rest of the E9x platform?
No idea - the N54 is the more tuneable engine, the HPFS stuff was sorted out years ago but turbos, injectors and the odd other issue can all happen but a good Indy will sort for a lot less than BMW would charge (although still not bargain basement).

Other advantage of the 35i is the DCT box of you want Auto.

honest_delboy

1,492 posts

199 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2016
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The turbos were 'chattering' on my brothers 335i and he was quoted 2.5k by a specialist to get them sorted. Can it be done any cheaper ?

JNW1

7,696 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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JonV8V said:
Fox- said:
JonV8V said:
+1
Z4 stayed with the N54
Every day's a schoolday. I wonder why it didn't move to N55 with the rest of the E9x platform?
No idea - the N54 is the more tuneable engine, the HPFS stuff was sorted out years ago but turbos, injectors and the odd other issue can all happen but a good Indy will sort for a lot less than BMW would charge (although still not bargain basement).

Other advantage of the 35i is the DCT box of you want Auto.
No idea why the N54 has been retained in the Z4 either! Undeniably a good engine but not aware it's still being fitted in any other new BMW and you'd have thought it wouldn't make economic sense to keep producing it just for a low volume model like the Z4 - strange!

JonV8V

7,173 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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JNW1 said:
No idea why the N54 has been retained in the Z4 either! Undeniably a good engine but not aware it's still being fitted in any other new BMW and you'd have thought it wouldn't make economic sense to keep producing it just for a low volume model like the Z4 - strange!
The Z4 is the last of be Exx cars to still be made and no real sign of ending either that I've heard. Maybe they have entry of engines knocking around and are just running them out without re-engineering the car.

marting

668 posts

173 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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Did the 35iS not have the N55?

JNW1

7,696 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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marting said:
Did the 35iS not have the N55?
Nope, think it's always been the N54.

Crackie

6,386 posts

241 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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honest_delboy said:
The turbos were 'chattering' on my brothers 335i and he was quoted 2.5k by a specialist to get them sorted. Can it be done any cheaper ?
The wastegate actuator rods and wastegates wear but the problem has to be very severe before boost is compromised. There are a huge number of threads online...... "N54 wastegate rattle fix"

GTEYE

2,092 posts

209 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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JonV8V said:
JNW1 said:
No idea why the N54 has been retained in the Z4 either! Undeniably a good engine but not aware it's still being fitted in any other new BMW and you'd have thought it wouldn't make economic sense to keep producing it just for a low volume model like the Z4 - strange!
The Z4 is the last of be Exx cars to still be made and no real sign of ending either that I've heard. Maybe they have entry of engines knocking around and are just running them out without re-engineering the car.
You're just too late with that comment...production of the E89 ended this month, August 2016.

Hardly any wonder it was a slow seller, a 35iS lists at a rather ambitious £47,915 according to BMW UK's website.


Edited by GTEYE on Wednesday 24th August 15:18

JNW1

7,696 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th August 2016
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GTEYE said:
You're just too late with that comment...production of the E89 ended this month, August 2016.
Perhaps BMW have finally run out of N54 engines?!! smile