F31 335d xDrive - experiences?
Discussion
julian64 said:
smashy said:
JNW1 said:
Blimey, you managed over 50mpg? Never got anywhere near that on an individual tank so what sort of journey was that? Don't think I'd tempt mine to anywhere near 50mpg unless it was through a long stretch of roadworks with SPECS cameras enforcing a 50mph speed limit!
I had 15 miles of that exact journey in my F30 30d reset OBC at the beginning at the end showed 71 mpg ( yep 71) ,may have been a gradient all the way but not obvious if there was.At 80mph showed 47 mpg and at 70 mph showed 56 mpg ( the exact same as my 120d auto) that 70mph was in eco pro mode,
smashy said:
julian64 said:
smashy said:
JNW1 said:
Blimey, you managed over 50mpg? Never got anywhere near that on an individual tank so what sort of journey was that? Don't think I'd tempt mine to anywhere near 50mpg unless it was through a long stretch of roadworks with SPECS cameras enforcing a 50mph speed limit!
I had 15 miles of that exact journey in my F30 30d reset OBC at the beginning at the end showed 71 mpg ( yep 71) ,may have been a gradient all the way but not obvious if there was.At 80mph showed 47 mpg and at 70 mph showed 56 mpg ( the exact same as my 120d auto) that 70mph was in eco pro mode,
smashy said:
I had 15 miles of that exact journey in my F30 30d reset OBC at the beginning at the end showed 71 mpg ( yep 71) ,may have been a gradient all the way but not obvious if there was.
Given that performance from the 330d is more than enough for most drivers it's the pick of the range offering RWD and vastly more mpg potential over the x35d. But this is PH so POWER comes first. Yes I went for that too power over economy.
Your not wrong,but where can you use it? I had a chance of the PPK for £995 and looks like it takes it up to 299bhp ,I was tempted really was but put mine in Sport and well its more than enough and I do enjoy fast driving.
But of course if finances allowed I would get the 335d obviously ,but would have to get ACS springs on that Xdrive even with adaptive.
But of course if finances allowed I would get the 335d obviously ,but would have to get ACS springs on that Xdrive even with adaptive.
Edited by smashy on Wednesday 1st July 21:01
smashy said:
Your not wrong,but where can you use it? I had a chance of the PPK for £995 and looks like it takes it up to 299bhp ,I was tempted really was but put mine in Sport and well its more than enough and I do enjoy fast driving.
But of course if finances allowed I would get the 335d obviously ,but would have to get ACS springs on that Xdrive even with adaptive.
Personally I'm not a fan of AWD - even though I had an RS6. I just like the RWD setup plus I didn't like the on stilts look of the std 335d. But of course if finances allowed I would get the 335d obviously ,but would have to get ACS springs on that Xdrive even with adaptive.
Edited by smashy on Wednesday 1st July 21:01
Hence I thought/wasn't even looking at a f10 535d rather had decided a f30/31 330d and PPK it but then stumbled on the 535d.
I do use max revs in a few gears every day but not for long as the speed is too high and frankly I rarely full load the throttle so really it could be going faster than I drive it now.
It's honestly more than plenty fast and in all honesty my old E90 330d 231bhp was also fast enough BUT my old RS6 my God that was Woah I need to slow down type of fast brutal everywhere. There was nothing in the time I owned it who "beat me" admittedly I didn't enounter anything more exotic than it in the 12 months ownership. Overtaking anything was so so easy - it's easy now but now on tight openings I have to consider can I do it or not the RS6 was simply foot down go and done.
Excited having just ordered a 335d xDrive M Sport Auto after coming across what seemed to me to be a depreciation beating offer from Nationwide Vehicle Contracts - 2 year lease, 8k allowance, £1k initial and £335 per month. Car will only be used for general use and weekend motorway jaunts (no commuting) so mileage suits. After already looking at releasing some equity from a 118d I own, this was a great excuse - imagine the performance will blow me away in comparison. Adding M Sport Plus pack etc. made the switch less justifiable cost wise so no options added. Interested to see if I notice the suspension on the LCI - can't imagine so but ACS upgrade won't be an option so fingers crossed 
srj2411 said:
Excited having just ordered a 335d xDrive M Sport Auto after coming across what seemed to me to be a depreciation beating offer from Nationwide Vehicle Contracts - 2 year lease, 8k allowance, £1k initial and £335 per month. Car will only be used for general use and weekend motorway jaunts (no commuting) so mileage suits. After already looking at releasing some equity from a 118d I own, this was a great excuse - imagine the performance will blow me away in comparison. Adding M Sport Plus pack etc. made the switch less justifiable cost wise so no options added. Interested to see if I notice the suspension on the LCI - can't imagine so but ACS upgrade won't be an option so fingers crossed
That sounds like a great deal for a great car.Well done that man.
smashy said:
Your not wrong,but where can you use it? I had a chance of the PPK for £995 and looks like it takes it up to 299bhp ,I was tempted really was but put mine in Sport and well its more than enough and I do enjoy fast driving.
But of course if finances allowed I would get the 335d obviously ,but would have to get ACS springs on that Xdrive even with adaptive.
I think you're right. I remapped my 335d and it's now at about 360bhp but I seldom use full throttle anyway, living in the choked South-East. However, twice a year I drive to Poland and it's on the Autobahn where the extra horses are most noticeable... the surge of acceleration doesn't slow till you're way in to 3 figure speeds.
It's handy for overtakes of course, but I can't think anytime I went for an overtake in this car that I wouldn't have also done in my last E90 330d. Must be getting old!
But of course if finances allowed I would get the 335d obviously ,but would have to get ACS springs on that Xdrive even with adaptive.
I think you're right. I remapped my 335d and it's now at about 360bhp but I seldom use full throttle anyway, living in the choked South-East. However, twice a year I drive to Poland and it's on the Autobahn where the extra horses are most noticeable... the surge of acceleration doesn't slow till you're way in to 3 figure speeds.
It's handy for overtakes of course, but I can't think anytime I went for an overtake in this car that I wouldn't have also done in my last E90 330d. Must be getting old!
Edited by smashy on Wednesday 1st July 21:01
Recently my daughter's partner got a new 335D X drive or what ever it's called. He said did I fancy a drive, 318bhp and a wall of torque, of course I would like a drive. The car/engine was exceptionally quiet once moving, smooth, handled quite well for a biggish car, swift (alleged 4.9 0-60) and completely lacking soul imo.
I diplomatically said great car but perhaps better suited long journeys across Europe. He actually agreed and said his ex M3 "grabbed you and pulled" the 335D "pushed". He likes BMW and has done the 330D, 328, M3 and now 335D so two of each fuel. His verdict petrol is better, diesels suits what he needs right now.
I diplomatically said great car but perhaps better suited long journeys across Europe. He actually agreed and said his ex M3 "grabbed you and pulled" the 335D "pushed". He likes BMW and has done the 330D, 328, M3 and now 335D so two of each fuel. His verdict petrol is better, diesels suits what he needs right now.
rongagin said:
Recently my daughter's partner got a new 335D X drive or what ever it's called. He said did I fancy a drive, 318bhp and a wall of torque, of course I would like a drive. The car/engine was exceptionally quiet once moving, smooth, handled quite well for a biggish car, swift (alleged 4.9 0-60) and completely lacking soul imo.
I diplomatically said great car but perhaps better suited long journeys across Europe. He actually agreed and said his ex M3 "grabbed you and pulled" the 335D "pushed". He likes BMW and has done the 330D, 328, M3 and now 335D so two of each fuel. His verdict petrol is better, diesels suits what he needs right now.
You and your daughter's partner are both absolutely right!I diplomatically said great car but perhaps better suited long journeys across Europe. He actually agreed and said his ex M3 "grabbed you and pulled" the 335D "pushed". He likes BMW and has done the 330D, 328, M3 and now 335D so two of each fuel. His verdict petrol is better, diesels suits what he needs right now.
bad company said:
It's a fast, economical saloon car. Not sold as or should be compared with an M3 or any M car.
I think they were both saying (in effect) that the diesel's a tool to do a job and they're absolutely right IMO. I agree that the 335d shouldn't be compared to an M-car but if I had £10 for every occasion someone's tried to do that on Pistonheads I could probably retire! JNW1 said:
bad company said:
It's a fast, economical saloon car. Not sold as or should be compared with an M3 or any M car.
I think they were both saying (in effect) that the diesel's a tool to do a job and they're absolutely right IMO. I agree that the 335d shouldn't be compared to an M-car but if I had £10 for every occasion someone's tried to do that on Pistonheads I could probably retire! Can the D3 be compared to the M3? Pace wise very similar BUT still it's never a track car.
Noise alone for me does it Petrol wins in any sports car over a diesel.
JNW1 said:
I think they were both saying (in effect) that the diesel's a tool to do a job and they're absolutely right IMO. I agree that the 335d shouldn't be compared to an M-car but if I had £10 for every occasion someone's tried to do that on Pistonheads I could probably retire!
Correct. Plus the point I was underwhelmed by the car, perhaps I expected too much?Osinjak said:
They're bigger than you think too. I put my old E91 up against an F31 and was genuinely surprised at the difference!
It's actually narrower than the E91 and usefully 10cm longer. Whereas most newer models are getting wider, the F31 has bucked the trend and been designed narrower. Where the E90/1 had poor rear legroom, the F31 now has enough for me to comfortably sit behind myself if I'm driving, if you see what I mean
Maracus said:
It's actually narrower than the E91 and usefully 10cm longer.
Whereas most newer models are getting wider, the F31 has bucked the trend and been designed narrower. Where the E90/1 had poor rear legroom, the F31 now has enough for me to comfortably sit behind myself if I'm driving, if you see what I mean
Not sure you're right about the F31 being narrower than the E91; certainly doesn't feel it from the driver's seat and a quick look on Google suggests it's actually a couple of centimetres wider? The turning circle is also bigger than the old car which can make it a bit of a pain in tight car parks.....Whereas most newer models are getting wider, the F31 has bucked the trend and been designed narrower. Where the E90/1 had poor rear legroom, the F31 now has enough for me to comfortably sit behind myself if I'm driving, if you see what I mean
JNW1 said:
Maracus said:
It's actually narrower than the E91 and usefully 10cm longer.
Whereas most newer models are getting wider, the F31 has bucked the trend and been designed narrower. Where the E90/1 had poor rear legroom, the F31 now has enough for me to comfortably sit behind myself if I'm driving, if you see what I mean
Not sure you're right about the F31 being narrower than the E91; certainly doesn't feel it from the driver's seat and a quick look on Google suggests it's actually a couple of centimetres wider? The turning circle is also bigger than the old car which can make it a bit of a pain in tight car parks.....Whereas most newer models are getting wider, the F31 has bucked the trend and been designed narrower. Where the E90/1 had poor rear legroom, the F31 now has enough for me to comfortably sit behind myself if I'm driving, if you see what I mean
We sold our A6 3.0TDI Q and bought our F31 last year. It's noticeably narrower on tight country roads where we live!
Maracus said:
It's definitely narrower. E91 is 1817mm vs F31 1811mm.
We sold our A6 3.0TDI Q and bought our F31 last year. It's noticeably narrower on tight country roads where we live!
You can feel the difference of 6mm when driving? That's half a mans finger width. We sold our A6 3.0TDI Q and bought our F31 last year. It's noticeably narrower on tight country roads where we live!
Agreed an A6 is notably wider than a 3 series hence you can seat 3 men comfortably side by side in an A6/5 series while a 3 series/A4 you cannot.
Welshbeef said:
You can feel the difference of 6mm when driving? That's half a mans finger width.
Agreed an A6 is notably wider than a 3 series hence you can seat 3 men comfortably side by side in an A6/5 series while a 3 series/A4 you cannot.
No, feel the difference between an A6 and the F31! Agreed an A6 is notably wider than a 3 series hence you can seat 3 men comfortably side by side in an A6/5 series while a 3 series/A4 you cannot.
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