F31 335d xDrive - experiences?
Discussion
smashy said:
Fair enough dr mark and if I had known I was buying a floating blancmonge instead of a sorted bmw ........ .
I am not trying to troll - or be a BMW apologist - but you bought without test driving, and you went (from memory) for a SE lux spec X drive car with no adaptive. When perhaps you should have gone for the 2 wheel drive MSport with adaptive.At least you now have the car you want. But bear in mind drivers who go for a car like yours often like blancmange - so they tell me
Only had mine delivered Friday so not had too much time with the car, though i have just done a 400 mile round trip to Portsmouth and the car has been an absolute joy, quiet smooth and plenty of grunt, doesn't matter what speed you're doing you still get a decent shove in the back when you press the loud pedal. The engine noise is nice, which is surprising for a derv.
I did notice the runflats trasfer any little bump in the road, so not sure i'll be able to keep them for a year? Not tried to 'press on' in a corner, had 2 sleepy children and the wife in the car so can't comment on cornering.
I've not had a 4wd before so was very impressed with the cars ability to join a NSL road from a side road in the wet with only a small gap to oncoming car yet managed to get to 60mph in what felt like an instant with little fuss.
Car did well on fuel, trip is saying 47mpg and still have 1/4 tank after 420 miles, i'm happy with a 500 mile range with only a 57L tank.
I don't feel the need to change anything, though that may change over time.
I did notice the runflats trasfer any little bump in the road, so not sure i'll be able to keep them for a year? Not tried to 'press on' in a corner, had 2 sleepy children and the wife in the car so can't comment on cornering.
I've not had a 4wd before so was very impressed with the cars ability to join a NSL road from a side road in the wet with only a small gap to oncoming car yet managed to get to 60mph in what felt like an instant with little fuss.
Car did well on fuel, trip is saying 47mpg and still have 1/4 tank after 420 miles, i'm happy with a 500 mile range with only a 57L tank.
I don't feel the need to change anything, though that may change over time.
Osinjak said:
47? That's pretty good, I never seemed to get above 35 in my old E91. Mind you I didn't exactly drive it like a granny.
Unless you're going to start driving like a granny you won't average 47mpg out of an F31 335d either! Have you gone for an LCI or is it not possible to order one of those yet? Osinjak said:
Ordered an LCI, think that's all you can order now. Bit frustrating that BMW UK website doesn't let you configure one yet.
Bizarre, I was assuming you couldn't order an LCI on the basis the configurator still has the details for the old model only! Are there many spec changes with the LCI? Assume that mechanically the 335d is unchanged (apart from the mystery suspension tweaks mentioned on this thread!) but have they finally got around to making things like xenons (or even LED's) standard? I found it really irritating that xenons were extra on a car with a list price of over £40k.... Osinjak said:
47? That's pretty good, I never seemed to get above 35 in my old E91. Mind you I didn't exactly drive it like a granny.
I was taking it careful, new car 'N that, sat at 80 leptons for most of that 400 miles, though there was about 50(ish) miles round town, but again being careful. I did give it a decent poke a few times though. If i can get a genuine 40mpg average, i'd be happy. Given i live in t'countryside and spend most of my life of duel/M'ways it should be possible.JNW1 said:
Osinjak said:
Ordered an LCI, think that's all you can order now. Bit frustrating that BMW UK website doesn't let you configure one yet.
Bizarre, I was assuming you couldn't order an LCI on the basis the configurator still has the details for the old model only! Are there many spec changes with the LCI? Assume that mechanically the 335d is unchanged (apart from the mystery suspension tweaks mentioned on this thread!) but have they finally got around to making things like xenons (or even LED's) standard? I found it really irritating that xenons were extra on a car with a list price of over £40k.... Edited by Osinjak on Sunday 28th June 22:40
kingofdbrits said:
I was taking it careful, new car 'N that, sat at 80 leptons for most of that 400 miles, though there was about 50(ish) miles round town, but again being careful. I did give it a decent poke a few times though. If i can get a genuine 40mpg average, i'd be happy. Given i live in t'countryside and spend most of my life of duel/M'ways it should be possible.
Given I do in the F10 535d and I exercise the right foot frequently else I'd buy a F10 518d and mine is pre LCI so no Eco pro I use air con all the time and pretty much every single drive I max out on revs in a couple of gears unless traffic is heavy. If you cannot you either live in much heavier traffic than I or you join like a loon
JNW1 said:
I found it really irritating that xenons were extra on a car with a list price of over £40k....
I agree, i couldn't justify spending £700 on xenons when you can fit LED's (though you have to code them out) yourself for a fraction of the price. I don't think Mazda or Peugot xenons cost £700, infact my old Mazda's adaptive Xenons were standard. While people keep paying, BMW will keep charging.
Welshbeef said:
Given I do in the F10 535d and I exercise the right foot frequently else I'd buy a F10 518d and mine is pre LCI so no Eco pro I use air con all the time and pretty much every single drive I max out on revs in a couple of gears unless traffic is heavy.
If you cannot you either live in much heavier traffic than I or you join like a loon
There's no xdrive drivetrain losses in the 535d however. I'm averaging mid 30s in mine but it has been remapped. The wife can get over 40 driving steadilly, but I just can't resist using the performance as much as possible. If you cannot you either live in much heavier traffic than I or you join like a loon
kingofdbrits said:
If i can get a genuine 40mpg average, i'd be happy. Given i live in t'countryside and spend most of my life of duel/M'ways it should be possible.
My overall average in the 13.5k miles I've had the car is just over 38mpg and that's measured the old fashioned way rather than just off the trip (which seems to be about 5% optimistic on my car). However, my office base has changed recently (and I'm now doing a greater proportion of my running on dual carriageways and motorways as a result) and if I look at the average over the last few tankfuls it's just over 40mpg (albeit that's probably been helped by a combination of a couple of long runs and the warmer weather which means the car's up to temperature more quickly). Therefore, I'd say if you're doing longish runs on motorways and dual carriageways low 40's is achievable providing you're not being silly; stick to low the 80's and blend with the traffic and I think you'll see 40mpg as an average! Mine (2014 535d) over-reads by a varying amount. I know my figures are embarrassingly high, but my car does spend a lot of time on the motorway and a smaller amount of time hooning.
You can change the calibration by putting in a factor into the "Consumption" hidden menu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUMpkdXuD8
I haven't done it (clearly, by the graph), but I think you change the 1000 to 1050 if your OBC is 5% over reading.
You can change the calibration by putting in a factor into the "Consumption" hidden menu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUMpkdXuD8
I haven't done it (clearly, by the graph), but I think you change the 1000 to 1050 if your OBC is 5% over reading.
apotts said:
Mine (2014 535d) over-reads by a varying amount. I know my figures are embarrassingly high, but my car does spend a lot of time on the motorway and a smaller amount of time hooning.
You can change the calibration by putting in a factor into the "Consumption" hidden menu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUMpkdXuD8
I haven't done it (clearly, by the graph), but I think you change the 1000 to 1050 if your OBC is 5% over reading.
LOL! My other half thinks I'm sad beyond belief for logging my mpg via spreadsheet (and she may be right!) but I shall take great delight in pointing out that others not only monitor the actual number but also the figure off the trip computer and then graph the results!! Impressive mpg for your car but, as you obviously know already, you're clearly not trying hard enough!You can change the calibration by putting in a factor into the "Consumption" hidden menu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUMpkdXuD8
I haven't done it (clearly, by the graph), but I think you change the 1000 to 1050 if your OBC is 5% over reading.
I have always logged fill ups on Excel, since I was in a new 205 GTi... Only recently have I put in the OBC number - graphing the difference takes seconds. I might go and do the calibration thing now, I reckon 1063 is the answer for me.
Vaguely back on topic, the 35d engine is a cracker. The car is truly multi-role; economical and comfortable when in "transport" mode, quick enough and moderately amusing when in "fun" mode. It's a ball ache hauling round a thirsty car 25k a year for the occasional fun moment and a ball ache not having fun moments available in a gutless barge. The 535d seems to address that issue nicely.
335d is not for me though - too cramped and noisy, and really not noticeably lighter (6%). And no hydraulic anti roll bars... Does it have the GPS gearbox yet? Probably the one feature I'd hate to not have, and I didn't even have to tick a box and be ruthlessly fleeced.
bad company said:
Mine is a 335d X Drive M Sport bought new in May 2014. As an every day driver I really can't fault it. Comfortable, fast and frugal as transport. Fun when I want it to be.
OK it's not a Ferrari or a Porsche - it's a brilliant SPORS SALOON.
The issue is - excluding noise - is that when it comes to upgrade the difference in pace or frugality is so minimal that the cost to change makes it very difficult to justify. As such you keep it for a very long time indeed. OK it's not a Ferrari or a Porsche - it's a brilliant SPORS SALOON.
Noise though that to me is the gripe you'd never go out and start it up just for the pleasure of listening to it. Likewise you'd never Rev it when stationary for the aural pleasure. Also the delivery is so linear you get the most straight away and it continues just like that to the cutout give or take. Whereas a petrol gets visceral.
This was one thing I noticed at Goodwood Festival of speed. The electric cars were certainly quick but utterly silent going up the hill while even if a marginally slower car but with lovely sound went up that would be the one to go for.
535d/335d are great tools fast yes frugal yes great family transport yes deceives the wife about how fast your going yes.
Will not make you cringe when you read 15/16mpg on super ....
Welshbeef said:
bad company said:
Mine is a 335d X Drive M Sport bought new in May 2014. As an every day driver I really can't fault it. Comfortable, fast and frugal as transport. Fun when I want it to be.
OK it's not a Ferrari or a Porsche - it's a brilliant SPORS SALOON.
The issue is - excluding noise - is that when it comes to upgrade the difference in pace or frugality is so minimal that the cost to change makes it very difficult to justify. As such you keep it for a very long time indeed. OK it's not a Ferrari or a Porsche - it's a brilliant SPORS SALOON.
Noise though that to me is the gripe you'd never go out and start it up just for the pleasure of listening to it. Likewise you'd never Rev it when stationary for the aural pleasure. Also the delivery is so linear you get the most straight away and it continues just like that to the cutout give or take. Whereas a petrol gets visceral.
This was one thing I noticed at Goodwood Festival of speed. The electric cars were certainly quick but utterly silent going up the hill while even if a marginally slower car but with lovely sound went up that would be the one to go for.
535d/335d are great tools fast yes frugal yes great family transport yes deceives the wife about how fast your going yes.
Will not make you cringe when you read 15/16mpg on super ....
My car with extras/toys was £47K list tho I paid considerably less. Great value and a great car IMO.
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