Who Wants a F11 550i M Sport?

[hornetrider]

Broadspeed have the 530D Touring M Sport at 36k with no options. Where have you seen them for 32k with nav and xenons (is that M Sport plus package?)

Edit: I see business nav and xenons are standard equipment.

[as7920]

17.5k miles on it at 4 years old that's less than 4.5k miles per year.

[junglie]

Putting aside the price discussion and splitting the difference, there really can't be many other contenders for the ultimate all round family wagon for circa £27k?

Sure you have the RS6 and E63 AMG but they are, I would suggest, significantly more to maintain?

There is only 1 E500 estate that I can find and it is similar money but is the older 5.5 V8 vs the turbocharged mill in the 550i.

I think that would be a fantastic buy if you could play some tunes on the price.

[whoami]

junglie said:

I think that would be a fantastic buy if you could play some tunes on the price.

Do you mean reduce it?

[andrewparker]

A neighbour of my parents has a brand new 550i in SE spec. Old fella has always bought the lowliest spec with the biggest petrol engine. I wholeheartedly approve.

[junglie]

I do - it is hard to value as it is extremely rare, desirable to far fewer than a "d" of some description yet, based on a "standard" depreciation curve still worth the money asked.

That said, I have yet to meet a BMW main dealer who did not have some movement in the price especially with big engined petrol models.

[whoami]

junglie said:

I do - it is hard to value as it is extremely rare, desirable to far fewer than a "d" of some description yet, based on a "standard" depreciation curve still worth the money asked.

That said, I have yet to meet a BMW main dealer who did not have some movement in the price especially with big engined petrol models.

Right.

It was the "play some tunes" rubbish that confused me.

[junglie]

My apologies - did not intend to confuse, I thought it was a reasonably common phrase.

Anyway, that is irrelevant as it is the discussion on this car that is important right now and who is going to buy it!

[Fox-]

hornetrider said:

Broadspeed have the 530D Touring M Sport at 36k with no options. Where have you seen them for 32k with nav and xenons (is that M Sport plus package?)

I was quoting the saloon price and it's actually £34k.

I'm not doing very well in this thread

[hornetrider]

FFS

[cerb4.5lee]

Plenty of want from me! I love rare cars like this.

[Wills2]

junglie said:

My apologies - did not intend to confuse, I thought it was a reasonably common phrase.

Your phrase was easy to understand given the context of the discussion.

[junglie]

I know but I did not wish this interesting topic to become a slagging match over turns of phrase as so many others do!

Sometimes it is better to let the less useful comments just dissipate and just crack on.

Anyway, about this car.........

[Helicopter123]

Plenty of car, but the truth is at that price still depreciation pain to come in spades.

I see it as a better buy at £25k for someone.

[hornetrider]

Helicopter123 said:

Plenty of car, but the truth is at that price still depreciation pain to come in spades.

I see it as a better buy at £25k for someone.

I don't get this at all. All modern cars depreciate, it's just what happens. They are all in a race down to 5k. When you buy it at 25k in 18 months with 30k miles on it, it's still got 20k to lose.

I bought my 550i when it was 6 years old with 60k for somewhere between 10 and 15k... I'll also be losing money on depreciation, but so what, it's life. Cars are a depreciating asset unless you go classic or limited run Pork/hypercar.

In summary, if you snooze, you'll lose. For us petrolheads the future is bleak. If you want a 530D then no problem, there's billions of those. If you want a silky V8... well no-one is buying them anymore so unicorns like this need to be seized.

[Helicopter123]

hornetrider said:

Helicopter123 said:

Plenty of car, but the truth is at that price still depreciation pain to come in spades.

I see it as a better buy at £25k for someone.

I don't get this at all. All modern cars depreciate, it's just what happens. They are all in a race down to 5k. When you buy it at 25k in 18 months with 30k miles on it, it's still got 20k to lose.

I bought my 550i when it was 6 years old with 60k for somewhere between 10 and 15k... I'll also be losing money on depreciation, but so what, it's life. Cars are a depreciating asset unless you go classic or limited run Pork/hypercar.

In summary, if you snooze, you'll lose. For us petrolheads the future is bleak. If you want a 530D then no problem, there's billions of those. If you want a silky V8... well no-one is buying them anymore so unicorns like this need to be seized.

You've made my point for me, thank you.

Buying at 10 - 15k the bulk of depreciation has been done. At 30k still falling off the cliff.

It's no reflection on the car, just the market.

[dom9]

So much want for this car!

Just picked up a 2005 545i SE Touring for £6,600 and it is just brilliant after a gearbox oil change.

An F11 550i M-Sport... That has to be cock-on perfect for sleeper family duties!

I can see one of these being on the shopping list in a couple of years, hopefully with a few quid more depreciation in the meantime!

[hornetrider]

Helicopter123 said:

You've made my point for me, thank you.

Buying at 10 - 15k the bulk of depreciation has been done. At 30k still falling off the cliff.

It's no reflection on the car, just the market.

I don't believe I have. Depreciation is depreciation. Doesn't really matter where in the curve it is, the only thing that matters is your personal circumstances and perspective and if you can afford it.

I personally have an aversion to it and also would get the heeby jeebies about paying more than 15k for a car. So I choose not to. Other people are far more wealthy than I and buy cars like this brand new for 70k and don't give a st. The previous (original) owner of my car was also one of these people. Other people are less wealthy or wouldn't pay more than 5k for a car, and are sat happily in an E39 540i.

All your point shows is where on the scale you are.

[Helicopter123]

hornetrider said:

Helicopter123 said:

You've made my point for me, thank you.

Buying at 10 - 15k the bulk of depreciation has been done. At 30k still falling off the cliff.

It's no reflection on the car, just the market.

I don't believe I have. Depreciation is depreciation. Doesn't really matter where in the curve it is, the only thing that matters is your personal circumstances and perspective and if you can afford it.

I personally have an aversion to it and also would get the heeby jeebies about paying more than 15k for a car. So I choose not to. Other people are far more wealthy than I and buy cars like this brand new for 70k and don't give a st. The previous (original) owner of my car was also one of these people. Other people are less wealthy or wouldn't pay more than 5k for a car, and are sat happily in an E39 540i.

All your point shows is where on the scale you are.

Really not sure what you are saying to me?

Most new 5 series are leased, to control the depreciation.

A cash buyer of a £30k car still depreciating is quite a rare beast?

[DoubleSix]

junglie said:

Putting aside the price discussion and splitting the difference, there really can't be many other contenders for the ultimate all round family wagon for circa £27k?

Sure you have the RS6 and E63 AMG but they are, I would suggest, significantly more to maintain?

There is only 1 E500 estate that I can find and it is similar money but is the older 5.5 V8 vs the turbocharged mill in the 550i.

I think that would be a fantastic buy if you could play some tunes on the price.

I recently missed out on a low miles S6 for around 30k private sale. A dealer snapped up and added 5k...