BMW 330i M Sport Saloon (New)

[Boggy]

Hi ya

My wife currently own a (2014 BMW 120d M Sport), we get around 50 – 55 MPG, car is used as the family workhorse i.e. shopping, weekends away, picking my son up as well as trips to and from the airport etc

What are the real world running costs of the 330i saloon ? I know about TAX as I've already had a look I'm talking about MPG etc

I'm comparing the 320d, the 330i looks like cracking value to buy new but I'm worried it's going to cost a fortune to run over the PCP deal

Boggy

[cerb4.5lee]

I wouldn't have thought there would be too many owners of the new 330i yet but owners of the latest 328i should be able to give some decent real world experience.

I am still coming to terms with the 330i having a 2 litre 4 pot Turbo under its bonnet instead of a 3 litre straight six! I always thought the 328i seemed a good package because it offers cracking performance and economy so I have no doubt the new 330i will be the same.

[Boggy]

cerb4.5lee said:

I wouldn't have thought there would be too many owners of the new 330i yet but owners of the latest 328i should be able to give some decent real world experience.

I am still coming to terms with the 330i having a 2 litre 4 pot Turbo under its bonnet instead of a 3 litre straight six! I always thought the 328i seemed a good package because it offers cracking performance and economy so I have no doubt the new 330i will be the same.

Yup,

Noticed that on the specification hope it still sounds nice ?

Boggy

[cerb4.5lee]

I heard a new 328i from outside and I thought it was a little muted to be fair but I haven't driven one, our old Audi TTS was a 2 litre 4 pot Turbo and whilst not many like the noise a 4 pot petrol engine makes I really liked the sound of the TTS both inside and out.

The new 328i/330i really appeal to me because they offer very strong performance with over 40 mpg too and I think they are a great alternative to the default 320d that everyone seems to go for.

[Maracus]

cerb4.5lee said:

I heard a new 328i from outside and I thought it was a little muted to be fair but I haven't driven one, our old Audi TTS was a 2 litre 4 pot Turbo and whilst not many like the noise a 4 pot petrol engine makes I really liked the sound of the TTS both inside and out.

The new 328i/330i really appeal to me because they offer very strong performance with over 40 mpg too and I think they are a great alternative to the default 320d that everyone seems to go for.

Agreed.

I've got an F31 328i auto, it's now 2 years old with 20k on.

A steady motorway cruise @ 70/75 will see 40/42 mpg. General overall mpg is about 33/34, so don't believe the official stats!

The engine is very tickety at tick over(if that is such a word), but very smooth. I find it has more than enough power for everyday use, and the 8 speed auto is excellent.

[smashy]

Re sounding nice ..its all BS anyway surely..listen to these two vids one without the artificial noise one with,blimey my 3ltr F30 derv sounds better in real life!!!

http://jalopnik.com/5973177/this-is-what-a-modern-...

[nickfrog]

Could you live with a M135i or would that be too small ?
You can get 20% off list with surprisingly good residuals so far.

[RBrown]

What about a 330d? My wife has a 120d and my 330d is a lot more powerful (even with still being broken in!).

It will put a smile on your face, still get good mpg pending your driving and good PCP deals.

Something to think about.......

[Boggy]

Thinking about the 320d again, 330d would be lovely however we are capping the spend at 30k both the 320d and 330i are obtainable for that figure with discount

The fuel economy is putting us off still

Spec:

M Sport
White
Red leather (standard)
Brushed alloy with piano black
19" alloys
Folding rear seats
Harman speakers

For both cars around 29.5k

Boggy

[philmots]

Isn't the LCI 330i got the new generation 'B' engine? So completely different engine to the 328i?

I'd imagine the MPG would be slightly better on a brand new engine.

It's a simple choice really, the diesel will cost less in fuel, the petrol will be faster, smoother and sound nicer. I'd take the petrol and the ~extra 60hp. I bet the difference will be less than £500 a year on an average mileage.

[cerb4.5lee]

philmots said:

Isn't the LCI 330i got the new generation 'B' engine? So completely different engine to the 328i?

I'd imagine the MPG would be slightly better on a brand new engine.

It's a simple choice really, the diesel will cost less in fuel, the petrol will be faster, smoother and sound nicer. I'd take the petrol and the ~extra 60hp. I bet the difference will be less than £500 a year on an average mileage.

This is the best advice and don't bother with the dirty diesel because they just don't reward at all as a driving experience, they are great if you are doing big miles and blasting up and down a motorway but for anything else they will just leave you very flat.

[Boggy]

H

philmots said:

Isn't the LCI 330i got the new generation 'B' engine? So completely different engine to the 328i?

I'd imagine the MPG would be slightly better on a brand new engine.

It's a simple choice really, the diesel will cost less in fuel, the petrol will be faster, smoother and sound nicer. I'd take the petrol and the ~extra 60hp. I bet the difference will be less than £500 a year on an average mileage.

Those were my thoughts but its convincing the Mrs

If it's £300 - £500 the petrol sounds promising, I agree I'd rather have performance etc as that was the main reason we were looking at the 330i in the first place

I'll wait a few more months and get more feedback

Boggy

[melbourne720]

330i for the price of a 320d, and you're wondering which one to get? Seems about no brainer to me. 330i every time.

Unless you're doing a million miles depreciation will be far more expensive than the difference in Fuel costs.

[Boggy]

melbourne720 said:

330i for the price of a 320d, and you're wondering which one to get? Seems about no brainer to me. 330i every time.

Unless you're doing a million miles depreciation will be far more expensive than the difference in Fuel costs.

We never tend to buy our everyday car outright we always PCP it

Seems the cheapest way of owning a new car over 3 years

Boggy

[P Ride]

Aren't diesel cars looking to be hammered in tax, now they've been identified as more environmentally damaging?

My independent BMW mechanic feels that the increased complexity of a diesel engine means the fuel savings are usually overstated, also.

[Boggy]

Crumbs

Just enquired about the 320d M Sport (the same specification as the 330i) 2k cheaper ! seems that may be the final nail in the coffin for the 330i

Asked about the Diesel (Tax) not until 2020 and there's a lot of doubt if they will even get it in

Boggy

[smashy]

P Ride said:

Aren't diesel cars looking to be hammered in tax, now they've been identified as more environmentally damaging?

My independent BMW mechanic feels that the increased complexity of a diesel engine means the fuel savings are usually overstated, also.

hello,just cant agree with that ,just gone up the M1 for 50 miles at around 65mph in traffic ,start to finish in my F30 30d 62mpg on the OBC, Hit the accelerator and the shove is more than capable.The noise? well its all piped in anyway.

i reckon the BMW 3ltr derv is a flippin brilliant engine,,,sadly as i want to leave the BMW brand

Edited by smashy on Tuesday 21st July 16:46

[knitware]

cerb4.5lee said:

This is the best advice and don't bother with the dirty diesel because they just don't reward at all as a driving experience, they are great if you are doing big miles and blasting up and down a motorway but for anything else they will just leave you very flat.

My 330d gives me more smiles that any other car I’ve owned, it’s a very quick car that handles beyond what a family car really should. This is speaking from experience of course.

But, back on topic. Op, the 330d is delightful please test drive one just so you can compare, oh and the myth that they are dirty isn't true, just uneducated drivel spouted sometimes.

When I test drove the 328i it felt a little flat and the engine sounded harsh, not that quick either and I don’t think that mpg is great. If you can live with the reduced mpg a 340i would elevate your driving to a whole new level, it would cost in mpg but surly the reward would make up for that?

The 340i I believe is one of the worlds best petrol engines on sale today available in a family car, ideal for your mileage too.

A bargain -

https://broadspeed.com/CarView/BMW/3-Series/41292/...

330d a bigger bargain -

https://broadspeed.com/CarView/BMW/3-Series/41326/...

Edited by knitware on Wednesday 22 July 11:09

Edited by knitware on Wednesday 22 July 11:11

[cerb4.5lee]

knitware said:

cerb4.5lee said:

This is the best advice and don't bother with the dirty diesel because they just don't reward at all as a driving experience, they are great if you are doing big miles and blasting up and down a motorway but for anything else they will just leave you very flat.

My 330d gives me more smiles that any other car I’ve owned, it’s a very quick car that handles beyond what a family car really should. This is speaking from experience of course.

Don't get me wrong I respect the 330d highly as a package and had a E90 330d for six years and over 150k miles so I do like them, the engine is just a one trick pony though for me(short rev band/limited reward)and It wouldn't be a car I would choose to just jump in and go for a drive.

I appreciate when driving any 3 series whether it has a petrol or diesel engine isn't exactly the height of fun anyway but I just appreciate the nicer noise and more revs that you get to enjoy from a petrol and I personally just don't connect to a diesel engine and I just cant love them at all as an engine.

As a tool to cover mega mileage then diesel makes sense but a diesel engine genuinely leaves me flat.

[Boggy]

knitware said:

My 330d gives me more smiles that any other car I’ve owned, it’s a very quick car that handles beyond what a family car really should. This is speaking from experience of course.

But, back on topic. Op, the 330d is delightful please test drive one just so you can compare, oh and the myth that they are dirty isn't true, just uneducated drivel spouted sometimes.

When I test drove the 328i it felt a little flat and the engine sounded harsh, not that quick either and I don’t think that mpg is great. If you can live with the reduced mpg a 340i would elevate your driving to a whole new level, it would cost in mpg but surly the reward would make up for that?

The 340i I believe is one of the worlds best petrol engines on sale today available in a family car, ideal for your mileage too.

A bargain -

https://broadspeed.com/CarView/BMW/3-Series/41292/...

330d a bigger bargain -

https://broadspeed.com/CarView/BMW/3-Series/41326/...

Edited by knitware on Wednesday 22 July 11:09

Edited by knitware on Wednesday 22 July 11:11

Thanks for those links very good value, it's going to be the wife's car however I will be driving it as well so appreciated. She's quite a keen driver as she also drives my Lotus (previously driven my Porsche, Fezza etc) so the 330i/d would be lovely

Boggy