E61 V8 Bearding

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ATM

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18,300 posts

220 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Jobbo said:
If it does, put a drivetrain warranty on the car now.
What do these cost?

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Depends on size of excess, mileage when you take it out etc. I think I paid £68 a month for my drivetrain warranty on a car which had 132k miles on it; the warranty had a £250 excess and I excluded emergency recovery. Paid for a £5k gearbox replacement at 146k miles smile

dom9

8,090 posts

210 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Jobbo said:
Try sitting at 40mph on cruise control on a nice flat road and see if it still does it. If it does, put a drivetrain warranty on the car now.
What would that mean was wrong?

Will certainly give it a go this weekend!

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Drop me a PM after you've tried it!

dom9

8,090 posts

210 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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Jobbo said:
Drop me a PM after you've tried it!
Will do! Gulp!

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Friday 14th August 2015
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No need for the gulp smile

smashie

685 posts

152 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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I am seriously tempted by the ebay one linked earlier, even more so seeing as it is only bout half hour away from me. Should I decide to drain my savings, what should I be looking out for on these?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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wsurfa said:
ATM said:
2008
RS 6
700bhp
103,000 miles
£21,495.00

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161761913553

Lovely and mental, but at 22k too much for me
So instead I impulse purchased an 07 S6 avant. Should arrive in a few days. We might have to arrange a side by side of 550 and S6, so both sides can confirm they made the correct choice wink

smashie

685 posts

152 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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I'm working through the man maths right now to see if it will work. I can get a loan a lot quicker than I can get access to savings and I think I would prefer to keep the savings for huge bills (cars and dogs - especially as the dog is no longer covered for his illness), so 2yr loan it is. Now to work out which car gets the NCD.

dom9

8,090 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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Simon,

PMs don't seem to be working - get an error every time I hit send?!

When the car was cold (not easy to find flat roads as I live round Epsom Downs) I don't think it was doing the 'surge' thing with cruise control on. Once the car was warm, I think it may have been doing it slightly. If it was, it was less pronounced than when I'm the throttle input.

It could have just been psychosomatic though!? What do you think it could be?

dom9

8,090 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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smashie said:
I'm working through the man maths right now to see if it will work. I can get a loan a lot quicker than I can get access to savings and I think I would prefer to keep the savings for huge bills (cars and dogs - especially as the dog is no longer covered for his illness), so 2yr loan it is. Now to work out which car gets the NCD.
I think this thread is jinxing me... Had an emergency trip to the vet today as my black lab decided to cut her leg open in the woods this morning!

Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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Sorry for being cryptic last night! Doesn't really matter if I post it here. My second 545i ended up having a new gearbox and the first perceptible symptom of anything going wrong was exactly what you described; generally it wasn't obvious that anything was wrong. But if the car was going along a nice flat road so you know it should be perfectly smooth, you could feel a slight hiccup every 10-20s (sorry, can't remember exactly); it felt like a fraction of a second's interruption in drive. This was after I'd had the fluid changed. I just monitored it for quite a while and eventually I got a gearbox error on the display and it stuck in 3rd; turning off and on again reset it. The BMW dealer couldn't find a fault code, amazingly, but I managed to get it to do it as I was pulling away so turned round and went back, leaving the engine running so the fault code was on display.

Now I don't know what the actual fault inside the box was, but BMW simply replace the whole gearbox. Which they did, under drivetrain warranty, quite happily - though the cost of the repair would have been a little over £5k and since that's the warranty claim limit they very kindly found a way to keep it down to that sum. If you were in the same situation in the SE, check how much the cost would be; I suspect the labour rate might push it a bit higher.

Anyway, keep monitoring it. I am fairly certain that if you don't have a warranty, a gearbox rebuild by a specialist wouldn't be £5k. And if you get the opportunity when sitting on a flat straight road at ~40, stick cruise on and see. These boxes are pretty refined but they're not perfect, so you can get lumpiness even when they're working fine.

dom9

8,090 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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Jobbo said:
Sorry for being cryptic last night! Doesn't really matter if I post it here. My second 545i ended up having a new gearbox and the first perceptible symptom of anything going wrong was exactly what you described; generally it wasn't obvious that anything was wrong. But if the car was going along a nice flat road so you know it should be perfectly smooth, you could feel a slight hiccup every 10-20s (sorry, can't remember exactly); it felt like a fraction of a second's interruption in drive. This was after I'd had the fluid changed. I just monitored it for quite a while and eventually I got a gearbox error on the display and it stuck in 3rd; turning off and on again reset it. The BMW dealer couldn't find a fault code, amazingly, but I managed to get it to do it as I was pulling away so turned round and went back, leaving the engine running so the fault code was on display.

Now I don't know what the actual fault inside the box was, but BMW simply replace the whole gearbox. Which they did, under drivetrain warranty, quite happily - though the cost of the repair would have been a little over £5k and since that's the warranty claim limit they very kindly found a way to keep it down to that sum. If you were in the same situation in the SE, check how much the cost would be; I suspect the labour rate might push it a bit higher.

Anyway, keep monitoring it. I am fairly certain that if you don't have a warranty, a gearbox rebuild by a specialist wouldn't be £5k. And if you get the opportunity when sitting on a flat straight road at ~40, stick cruise on and see. These boxes are pretty refined but they're not perfect, so you can get lumpiness even when they're working fine.
Interesting... Mine decided to stick in gear after a really long run the other night but that cleared after stopping and it hasn't done it again. I felt that was my fault though as I did 'confuse' it with some heavy inputs in the overtaking lane and then coming off the throttle. Hadn't noticed a problem before that, I don't think.

It certainly doesn't do it at higher rpm (i.e. on the motorway) or when accelerating or decelerating.

I haven't had an error message but coincidentally, this has happened not long after the transmission fluid change. Might drop those guys a message next week and see what they think/ know. A gearbox rebuild by them was 'only' something starting with a '1', so it's not too scary but I'll get all that confirmed and they are ZF specialists.

smashie

685 posts

152 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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Well I went and done it. The 550i is on my drive now. Man maths did not fully add up, but hey you only live once and the other half likes it so at least not in the Dog house.

dom9

8,090 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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smashie said:
Well I went and done it. The 550i is on my drive now. Man maths did not fully add up, but hey you only live once and the other half likes it so at least not in the Dog house.
Good lad! Welcome to the club! Let us know what it's like!

smashie

685 posts

152 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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dom9 said:
Good lad! Welcome to the club! Let us know what it's like!
Well it's fast. Gonna need to be careful with my right foot. Last 4.8 I had didn't go anywhere near as quick, but then again it was in a Range Rover and the last 5 series was only a 3L diesel. It sure does feel good to finally have another petrol car. Just got to remember I have one of each now and therefore need to fill them with the correct fuel.

ATM

Original Poster:

18,300 posts

220 months

Saturday 15th August 2015
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smashie said:
dom9 said:
Good lad! Welcome to the club! Let us know what it's like!
Well it's fast. Gonna need to be careful with my right foot. Last 4.8 I had didn't go anywhere near as quick, but then again it was in a Range Rover and the last 5 series was only a 3L diesel. It sure does feel good to finally have another petrol car. Just got to remember I have one of each now and therefore need to fill them with the correct fuel.
Good man. Silver is the best colour for surprising other road users. Dual carriageways is where it's at. Even traffic light gran prix it's pretty impressive too especially if you get lucky on launch and the tc light stays off.

philmots

4,631 posts

261 months

Sunday 16th August 2015
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smashie said:
Well I went and done it. The 550i is on my drive now. Man maths did not fully add up, but hey you only live once and the other half likes it so at least not in the Dog house.
Congrats mate.

I thought about selling mine in a year or two but I keep thinking more and more ill just run and run it. My mileage is only 3/4k a year so it should stay pretty fresh.

It's a lovely engine with a decent turn of speed when needed.

I think PH may own the majority of these cars shortly! I think one fella has two..

smashie

685 posts

152 months

Sunday 16th August 2015
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Well I found out bad point number 1. After the car being locked up all night, I got in it this morning and boy did it stink of stale cigar smoke. Spent most of the morning cleaning and deodorising the interior. Hopefully that will do the trick. If not then I will see if I can find someone to give it the ozone treatment.

ATM

Original Poster:

18,300 posts

220 months

Monday 17th August 2015
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philmots said:
smashie said:
Well I went and done it. The 550i is on my drive now. Man maths did not fully add up, but hey you only live once and the other half likes it so at least not in the Dog house.
Congrats mate.

I thought about selling mine in a year or two but I keep thinking more and more ill just run and run it. My mileage is only 3/4k a year so it should stay pretty fresh.

It's a lovely engine with a decent turn of speed when needed.

I think PH may own the majority of these cars shortly! I think one fella has two..
I can see why. At day to day sensible stuff it is just so good. Tickling round at 1/10 throttle being sensible it feels like you're driving something like a 750i. But then the added boot space makes it so much more practical. I think I could fit a washing machine in there easily. I've driven a 745i and it felt more lardy on a b road. Plus parking a 7 at Asda is almost impossible if you try to use one space.