335d xdrive best offers - buy used or new?
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foreverfalling said:
I think by the time i've gone for the Auto box in the 340i and because it has less dealer contribution and less miles included it will cost more than the 335d specced similarly..
Thanks for raising it though...
I used to have 120d and I didn't really mind the diesel power delivery. It was just far too slow after my other cars - a C32 Amg and I've just had stolen from my drive a GOLF R Manual.
The latest Golf R I had was nice, but feels lacking low down in the power (which I imagine the 335d definitely won't) - and the cabin was not half as nice place to be... It was great around the twisties but rarely did I get to use it for that and most of my 12-15k miles a year were motorway miles anyway with work.
When I use power its mostly just accelerating from lights or overtaking etc, - i'm no stig and although the Golf R's grip amazed me, I rarely used its full talents...
No additional cost for an auto on a 340i as BMW appear to have dropped the option to have a manual! The 335d is a very good car but at 12-15k miles a year it would definitely be a 340i for me; however, each to their own and good luck with whatever you choose!Thanks for raising it though...
I used to have 120d and I didn't really mind the diesel power delivery. It was just far too slow after my other cars - a C32 Amg and I've just had stolen from my drive a GOLF R Manual.
The latest Golf R I had was nice, but feels lacking low down in the power (which I imagine the 335d definitely won't) - and the cabin was not half as nice place to be... It was great around the twisties but rarely did I get to use it for that and most of my 12-15k miles a year were motorway miles anyway with work.
When I use power its mostly just accelerating from lights or overtaking etc, - i'm no stig and although the Golf R's grip amazed me, I rarely used its full talents...
And back to my point.... I do 12 miles to work and the odd long run every week. A diesel just wouldn't have the time to get up to optimum temp and achieve near that claimed figure. A petrol car on the other had would and my old 335i and m3 all averaged within 1-2mpg of the combined figures. Diesels unfortunately did not.
If your doing uber miles then a diesel is the way forward.
If your doing uber miles then a diesel is the way forward.
SBN said:
And back to my point.... I do 12 miles to work and the odd long run every week. A diesel just wouldn't have the time to get up to optimum temp and achieve near that claimed figure. A petrol car on the other had would and my old 335i and m3 all averaged within 1-2mpg of the combined figures. Diesels unfortunately did not.
If your doing uber miles then a diesel is the way forward.
Your thoughts pretty much mirror mine! However, even if you're doing uber miles - and therefore place a high value on mpg and range - I'm still not sure that a 335d is the way to go. Even on a run mine does "only" around 42mpg (admittedly cruising in the low 80's rather than at 70mph!) and if you want something that's going to do 50mpg + on a regular basis I think you probably need to be looking at more like a 320d (a point I think you've made in one of your earlier posts). Obviously some people just prefer the power delivery of a big diesel (which is fair enough) but if it's a step change in range and fuel consumption you're after my experience would suggest you'd struggle to make a case for a 335d over a 340i......If your doing uber miles then a diesel is the way forward.
Ok I've ordered a 335d with adaptive suspension and some other extras today....
Had a brief test drive of a used one in the wet and I liked it.
X drive does appeal a bit as we have been stuck in the snow with work a few times in a merc and bmw and it was a pain! Also with the adaptive suspension - hopefully that improves the handling a bit.
The dealer did it cheaper than the 340i and the dealer admitted that the residual value would be higher on the 335d after paying the same payments as well.
I think the 340i would have been nice to try and i probably would have been tempted but sadly I had to order today (due to work comittments over the next few weeks) and there was no 340i's available to try.
He did say the 340i was a very nice drive though and that it probably had more power top end and a more sporty delivery.
I'm happy with my decision - Compared to the golf, it didn't feel as sporty but that wasn't a bad thing. Felt more refined thats for sure and shifted pretty well but not super fast.
We spend about £250 a month on fuel for a car that averages 31mpg so we will now get around 40-45mpg (when we do miles its all on the motorway or at 50mph pretty much) so an extra 30% of mpg equates to about £82 a month for us saving which is good...
With me it was all about circumstance - we need a car next tuesday for work and the dealer offered to sell me one of their part ex cars and buy it back for £300 less when my car comes in. They are even taxing it for me!
All this taken into consideration - and us really pushing a hard deal worked out nicely
Had a brief test drive of a used one in the wet and I liked it.
X drive does appeal a bit as we have been stuck in the snow with work a few times in a merc and bmw and it was a pain! Also with the adaptive suspension - hopefully that improves the handling a bit.
The dealer did it cheaper than the 340i and the dealer admitted that the residual value would be higher on the 335d after paying the same payments as well.
I think the 340i would have been nice to try and i probably would have been tempted but sadly I had to order today (due to work comittments over the next few weeks) and there was no 340i's available to try.
He did say the 340i was a very nice drive though and that it probably had more power top end and a more sporty delivery.
I'm happy with my decision - Compared to the golf, it didn't feel as sporty but that wasn't a bad thing. Felt more refined thats for sure and shifted pretty well but not super fast.
We spend about £250 a month on fuel for a car that averages 31mpg so we will now get around 40-45mpg (when we do miles its all on the motorway or at 50mph pretty much) so an extra 30% of mpg equates to about £82 a month for us saving which is good...
With me it was all about circumstance - we need a car next tuesday for work and the dealer offered to sell me one of their part ex cars and buy it back for £300 less when my car comes in. They are even taxing it for me!
All this taken into consideration - and us really pushing a hard deal worked out nicely
Edited by foreverfalling on Friday 14th August 18:57
foreverfalling said:
Ok I've ordered a 335d with adaptive suspension and some other extras today....
Had a brief test drive of a used one in the wet and I liked it.
X drive does appeal a bit as we have been stuck in the snow with work a few times in a merc and bmw and it was a pain! Also with the adaptive suspension - hopefully that improves the handling a bit.
The dealer did it cheaper than the 340i and the dealer admitted that the residual value would be higher on the 335d after paying the same payments as well.
I think the 340i would have been nice to try and i probably would have been tempted but sadly I had to order today (due to work comittments over the next few weeks) and there was no 340i's available to try.
He did say the 340i was a very nice drive though and that it probably had more power top end and a more sporty delivery.
I'm happy with my decision - Compared to the golf, it didn't feel as sporty but that wasn't a bad thing. Felt more refined thats for sure and shifted pretty well but not super fast.
We spend about £250 a month on fuel for a car that averages 31mpg so we will now get around 40-45mpg (when we do miles its all on the motorway or at 50mph pretty much) so an extra 30% of mpg equates to about £82 a month for us saving which is good...
With me it was all about circumstance - we need a car next tuesday for work and the dealer offered to sell me one of their part ex cars and buy it back for £300 less when my car comes in. They are even taxing it for me!
All this taken into consideration - and us really pushing a hard deal worked out nicely
Good on you for doing the deal and hope you enjoy the car - I know some of my comments might have come across as a bit negative about the 335d but it's probably because I'm a petrolhead at heart and miss the noise of a nice BMW straight six petrol engine! As for the 335d not being super fast, I know what you mean but it's deceptively quick and on more than one occasion my speed has strayed higher than I intended (especially on motorways and dual carriageways). The combination of huge torque and the auto box also makes it a very effortless and effective overtaker and if you're doing 50mph on the motorway you should certainly see mpg starting with a 4; sure you'll be happy with it when it arrives!Had a brief test drive of a used one in the wet and I liked it.
X drive does appeal a bit as we have been stuck in the snow with work a few times in a merc and bmw and it was a pain! Also with the adaptive suspension - hopefully that improves the handling a bit.
The dealer did it cheaper than the 340i and the dealer admitted that the residual value would be higher on the 335d after paying the same payments as well.
I think the 340i would have been nice to try and i probably would have been tempted but sadly I had to order today (due to work comittments over the next few weeks) and there was no 340i's available to try.
He did say the 340i was a very nice drive though and that it probably had more power top end and a more sporty delivery.
I'm happy with my decision - Compared to the golf, it didn't feel as sporty but that wasn't a bad thing. Felt more refined thats for sure and shifted pretty well but not super fast.
We spend about £250 a month on fuel for a car that averages 31mpg so we will now get around 40-45mpg (when we do miles its all on the motorway or at 50mph pretty much) so an extra 30% of mpg equates to about £82 a month for us saving which is good...
With me it was all about circumstance - we need a car next tuesday for work and the dealer offered to sell me one of their part ex cars and buy it back for £300 less when my car comes in. They are even taxing it for me!
All this taken into consideration - and us really pushing a hard deal worked out nicely
Edited by foreverfalling on Friday 14th August 18:57
Good stuff...
If it's any consolation I was weighing up between a 2015 s4 avant and 340i. I test drove a s5 as the s4 was unregistered and a 335d touring. Neither were the car id end up with but essentially my choice was made because of the following
The Audi was great but very thirsty, dated and very similar (due to sharing of parts) to my current octavia vrs estate. The BMW beat it in over ten ways but still made me want it... It was a heart vs head on paper but after driving I preferred the feel of the BMW that the Audi. I don't why but I always feel you sit on an Audi and in a BMW.
The 335d was very good, got the wheels squeeling a bit on a roundabout. It has a nice sound and I was very tempted but I'm a petrol head I loved my 330i and my m3 it just had to be a 340i even though it's a bit of a gamble on a new engine vs and old tested s4 power plant.
If it's any consolation I was weighing up between a 2015 s4 avant and 340i. I test drove a s5 as the s4 was unregistered and a 335d touring. Neither were the car id end up with but essentially my choice was made because of the following
The Audi was great but very thirsty, dated and very similar (due to sharing of parts) to my current octavia vrs estate. The BMW beat it in over ten ways but still made me want it... It was a heart vs head on paper but after driving I preferred the feel of the BMW that the Audi. I don't why but I always feel you sit on an Audi and in a BMW.
The 335d was very good, got the wheels squeeling a bit on a roundabout. It has a nice sound and I was very tempted but I'm a petrol head I loved my 330i and my m3 it just had to be a 340i even though it's a bit of a gamble on a new engine vs and old tested s4 power plant.
The thing with Diesel is that litre to litre with petrol, diesel has more energy, so even if the 40i and 35d engines have identical efficientcy the 35d with do 20% more MPG's simply because there's more stored energy in diesel, it's not that there's anything magical about it, IIRC there's about 27,000BTU's in a litre of petrol and 34,000BTU's in a litre of diesel.
One thing i have found with my 335d is that if you have a heavy foot it'll drink a fair bit, it'll also give a good return if you're careful. On my usual commute down a duel carridgeway with a few roundabouts i'm getting 45-50mpg but tonight i had a bit of fun and got 34mpg. This is my first diesel in 15 years and so far i'm happy. The xdrive is good, it's nice not slip sliding about on greasy roads when you want to put a bit of power down.
This is typical of what i get, this gets me into a town centre and there is a few WOT pulls in there too.
One thing i have found with my 335d is that if you have a heavy foot it'll drink a fair bit, it'll also give a good return if you're careful. On my usual commute down a duel carridgeway with a few roundabouts i'm getting 45-50mpg but tonight i had a bit of fun and got 34mpg. This is my first diesel in 15 years and so far i'm happy. The xdrive is good, it's nice not slip sliding about on greasy roads when you want to put a bit of power down.
This is typical of what i get, this gets me into a town centre and there is a few WOT pulls in there too.
JNW1 said:
Good on you for doing the deal and hope you enjoy the car - I know some of my comments might have come across as a bit negative about the 335d but it's probably because I'm a petrolhead at heart and miss the noise of a nice BMW straight six petrol engine! As for the 335d not being super fast, I know what you mean but it's deceptively quick and on more than one occasion my speed has strayed higher than I intended (especially on motorways and dual carriageways). The combination of huge torque and the auto box also makes it a very effortless and effective overtaker and if you're doing 50mph on the motorway you should certainly see mpg starting with a 4; sure you'll be happy with it when it arrives!
Not at all. Thanks for the honest feedback. Usually everyone just says now much they love their car!!Definitely deceptively quick. I was at 80 in no time.
Can see why the 340i was recommended but I think all things considered this was the right deal for me.
Having said that if merc had offered the same contributions on a similarly priced cla45 - today might have been quite a lot different
carl_w said:
Hmm, I need 20k pa but even so the price I'm being quoted for a pre-reg doesn't seem competitive. What's your spec? M-Sport package (with brakes), leather, pro-nav, H-K audio? Those are really the only things I care about.
That was with no options. I've added m sport plus package. Heated seats and wheel. Protection glass and all important adaptive suspension. That's come to 459 down and 510 a month with service package over 4 years.
that's with tom at blue bell in Crewe.
foreverfalling said:
That was with no options. I've added m sport plus package. Heated seats and wheel. Protection glass and all important adaptive suspension.
That's come to 459 down and 510 a month with service package over 4 years.
that's with tom at blue bell in Crewe.
Is that for a saloon or a Touring? Either way it sounds like you've got yourself a good deal there! That's come to 459 down and 510 a month with service package over 4 years.
that's with tom at blue bell in Crewe.
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