Taken delivery of a 4 series gran coupe - impressed!
Discussion
smashy said:
Thanks chaps re the MPG info .....sadly im just too conditioned to looking at 50+mpg in my 3 ltr derv.it would take some " commitment"to get out of that Loop
If you see 50+ from the 30d you will see 40+ from the 28i. How many miles a year do you do?
Think of it in £ rather than MPG.
10k miles a year is £9 a week, 15k miles a year is £14 a week etc. etc.
irfan1712 said:
Hi all
Took delivery of our 4 series GC on Monday. Its a beauty with the MSport kit, even in footballers white (Alpine White with Ivory Leather) - but i'm actually more impressed with how much shove the 20d engine has. We have always had larger engined cars - this replacing a 3.0 petrol V6 Audi A4 - So in all honestly I thought we had made a bit of a mistake ordering the 20d (without first driving it..who does that!?) But i'm pleased to say the drive is fantastic and really has exceeded my expectations of a 2.0 turbo diesel. The torque is fantastic and utilised to its fullest with the ZF8 box. Theres a bit of diesel clatter when its idle and when you get a bit pedal heavy but this is probably obvious.
The car has come in standard MSport spec, so it comes with Xenons, heated Ivory leather, Electric mirrors, 18'' wheels, and does have the Pro media sat nav.
The pro sat nav & multimedia is very impressive - I like my gadgets and this has pretty much everything... Bluetooth audio streaming, USB/Aux, Impressive satnav & map and a few other bits and pieces. iDrive took a few hours to use naturally but now its a doddle to use.
Why did you choose a 4 pot diesel instead of a 6 pot one?
The Xenons are also very crisp at night which I like! Overall.. first class service from BMW Cardiff, hopefully will be the same story for as long as I have the car. Will update with a couple interior shots.
Took delivery of our 4 series GC on Monday. Its a beauty with the MSport kit, even in footballers white (Alpine White with Ivory Leather) - but i'm actually more impressed with how much shove the 20d engine has. We have always had larger engined cars - this replacing a 3.0 petrol V6 Audi A4 - So in all honestly I thought we had made a bit of a mistake ordering the 20d (without first driving it..who does that!?) But i'm pleased to say the drive is fantastic and really has exceeded my expectations of a 2.0 turbo diesel. The torque is fantastic and utilised to its fullest with the ZF8 box. Theres a bit of diesel clatter when its idle and when you get a bit pedal heavy but this is probably obvious.
The car has come in standard MSport spec, so it comes with Xenons, heated Ivory leather, Electric mirrors, 18'' wheels, and does have the Pro media sat nav.
The pro sat nav & multimedia is very impressive - I like my gadgets and this has pretty much everything... Bluetooth audio streaming, USB/Aux, Impressive satnav & map and a few other bits and pieces. iDrive took a few hours to use naturally but now its a doddle to use.
Why did you choose a 4 pot diesel instead of a 6 pot one?
The Xenons are also very crisp at night which I like! Overall.. first class service from BMW Cardiff, hopefully will be the same story for as long as I have the car. Will update with a couple interior shots.
gizlaroc said:
If you see 50+ from the 30d you will see 40+ from the 28i.
How many miles a year do you do?
Think of it in £ rather than MPG.
10k miles a year is £9 a week, 15k miles a year is £14 a week etc. etc.
Well there has to ba a cut off point gizlaroc How many miles a year do you do?
Think of it in £ rather than MPG.
10k miles a year is £9 a week, 15k miles a year is £14 a week etc. etc.
.I went to telford there and back from west london last week M4 M25 M40 M42 M6 M54. When I wasnt stuck on the M6 going nowhere ( I do not use the stop start) I was on the outside lane giving it real beans showed 51mpg cant see that 2.8 being in the 40s doing the speed I was going "keeping up with Traffic" If I did it id go 340i I reckon just curious on the 2.8i because from all Ive read it is pretty bad compared to official figures Mind you Ive allways liked your man maths when it comes to Derv v petrol so what do you reckon 340i v my 330d 17k a year mmmm
Edited by smashy on Sunday 6th September 20:20
The F30 330d my mate has, saloon and xDrive, is saying 46mpg average on the obc and is getting 42mpg calculated.
It is 2 years old and now has 45,000 miles on it.
Not sure how that compares with yours?
I reckon the 340i will be about 30/32mpg average, my old E91 335i touring, early one, was averaging 28, so the new gearbox alone will definitely give at least a 10% gain, combine that with the other fuel saving additions and I reckon 32mpg is about right, but let's say 30mpg to be fair?
So doing 17k miles a year you would be putting about £14 a week in extra in fuel.
It is 2 years old and now has 45,000 miles on it.
Not sure how that compares with yours?
I reckon the 340i will be about 30/32mpg average, my old E91 335i touring, early one, was averaging 28, so the new gearbox alone will definitely give at least a 10% gain, combine that with the other fuel saving additions and I reckon 32mpg is about right, but let's say 30mpg to be fair?
So doing 17k miles a year you would be putting about £14 a week in extra in fuel.
[quote=gizlaroc]The F30 330d my mate has, saloon and xDrive, is saying 46mpg average on the obc and is getting 42mpg calculated.
It is 2 years old and now has 45,000 miles on it.
Not sure how that compares with yours?
I reckon the 340i will be about 30/32mpg average, my old E91 335i touring, early one, was averaging 28, so the new gearbox alone will definitely give at least a 10% gain, combine that with the other fuel saving additions and I reckon 32mpg is about right, but let's say 30mpg to be fair?
So doing 17k miles a year you would be putting about £14 a week in extra in fuel.
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I reckon 46 is a good shout ,will be doing 600 miles in cornwall soon used to get 44mpg for that in my 120d and this seems to be a tad more efficient hoping for 46 mpg as you say
A cup of starbucks a day...........wonder whats going to happen with Diesel fuel and the govt in the near future..sorry OP going offtrack here
It is 2 years old and now has 45,000 miles on it.
Not sure how that compares with yours?
I reckon the 340i will be about 30/32mpg average, my old E91 335i touring, early one, was averaging 28, so the new gearbox alone will definitely give at least a 10% gain, combine that with the other fuel saving additions and I reckon 32mpg is about right, but let's say 30mpg to be fair?
So doing 17k miles a year you would be putting about £14 a week in extra in fuel.
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I reckon 46 is a good shout ,will be doing 600 miles in cornwall soon used to get 44mpg for that in my 120d and this seems to be a tad more efficient hoping for 46 mpg as you say
A cup of starbucks a day
...........wonder whats going to happen with Diesel fuel and the govt in the near future..sorry OP going offtrack here gizlaroc said:
I reckon the 340i will be about 30/32mpg average, my old E91 335i touring, early one, was averaging 28, so the new gearbox alone will definitely give at least a 10% gain, combine that with the other fuel saving additions and I reckon 32mpg is about right, but let's say 30mpg to be fair?
Obviously depends on the type of running you're doing but I would have thought 30mpg from a 340i will only be the case or you're doing a fairly high proportion of short trips and/or city driving. My E92 335i (manual, N55 engine) averaged just over 30mpg in the 35k miles I had it and given the difference in the published figures I would expect closer to 35mpg from a 340i all other things being equal. Seem to recall Autocar saying they got high 30's from a 340i they had on test recently so I think 30mpg is likely to be bottom end of what a typical could expect? AB said:
Why are they putting twin exhausts on the 20d?
Once upon a time you could pretty much tell what engine was under the bonnet because of the exhaust configuration but not any more it seems, I suppose they are just bringing the 3/4 series in line with the 5 series because the current 520d has had twin exhausts for a while now.Plus in this day age the 4 pot diesel engine is king...I am hoping its a far better engine now than it was in my 2009 520d because that engine was a sack of s
t! JNW1 said:
Obviously depends on the type of running you're doing but I would have thought 30mpg from a 340i will only be the case or you're doing a fairly high proportion of short trips and/or city driving. My E92 335i (manual, N55 engine) averaged just over 30mpg in the 35k miles I had it and given the difference in the published figures I would expect closer to 35mpg from a 340i all other things being equal. Seem to recall Autocar saying they got high 30's from a 340i they had on test recently so I think 30mpg is likely to be bottom end of what a typical could expect?
I totally agree with you, I was trying to be as pessimistic as possible with regard to what a 340i would get. I honestly think the difference would be more like 7mpg, so around £5 a week more in fuel for the petrol for someone doing 12,000 miles pa.
A very good customer of mine has an F30 330d touring, rwd, reckons he gets 450 miles out of a tank when it is mainly shorter stuff, and just under 600 miles when all motorway.
So that is somewhere between 36mpg and 45mpg.
I bet the 340i would get 29mpg and 38mpg respectively.
First week with the car has been a good one. It hasn't travelled far but i'm finding any excuse to give my R32 a rest so I can waft about in this, despite some people taking a dislike to the standard runflats that come with new BMW's I find them surprisingly very comfortable and road noise is next to zero.
In response to above, we needed a cheaper run around ( so to speak ) which meant a nice 4 cylinder diesel. The need for a big six just wouldn't be needed and would be over kill for what we need the car for... if anything is a V6 or V8 with us it would always be petrol.
Interior shots (the leather looks quite beige here but in person its a lot whiter - like an off white. :
Pillar-less doors on both front and rear to keep with the 'coupe lines' really are quite cool - especially on the rear as its just unusual opening a rear door with no frame:
And regarding the exhaust tips - if you notice BMW exhaust tips that much then you will know that the bigger '35 engines have dual exhausts because their the flagship engines other than the M's.. which means the 4 cylinders and the '30 engines will share the same tips seen as their not the flagship lines. Besides, a single exhaust on such a big bodied car would just look like a pea shooter. I don't see the problem and personally think they look great.
In response to above, we needed a cheaper run around ( so to speak ) which meant a nice 4 cylinder diesel. The need for a big six just wouldn't be needed and would be over kill for what we need the car for... if anything is a V6 or V8 with us it would always be petrol.
Interior shots (the leather looks quite beige here but in person its a lot whiter - like an off white. :
Pillar-less doors on both front and rear to keep with the 'coupe lines' really are quite cool - especially on the rear as its just unusual opening a rear door with no frame:
And regarding the exhaust tips - if you notice BMW exhaust tips that much then you will know that the bigger '35 engines have dual exhausts because their the flagship engines other than the M's.. which means the 4 cylinders and the '30 engines will share the same tips seen as their not the flagship lines. Besides, a single exhaust on such a big bodied car would just look like a pea shooter. I don't see the problem and personally think they look great.
Edited by irfan1712 on Monday 7th September 12:45
Edited by irfan1712 on Monday 7th September 12:47
smashy said:
Gizlaroc was it you who posted one evening really shifting M4 back to suffolk ,very fast time now if I did that I would not be able to get that car down under 39mpg Wonnder what that would show in a 335i?
Yeah, not going to mention times again, but it was quick. Chipenham to Norwich all empty roads. It still saw 33mpg.
And that is my point, in the reality I reckon 7mpg is the biggest gap you will see doing like for like driving.
gizlaroc said:
I totally agree with you, I was trying to be as pessimistic as possible with regard to what a 340i would get.
I honestly think the difference would be more like 7mpg, so around £5 a week more in fuel for the petrol for someone doing 12,000 miles pa.
A very good customer of mine has an F30 330d touring, rwd, reckons he gets 450 miles out of a tank when it is mainly shorter stuff, and just under 600 miles when all motorway.
So that is somewhere between 36mpg and 45mpg.
I bet the 340i would get 29mpg and 38mpg respectively.
Indeed so and when you take into account the 340i is really more an alternative to the 335d the mpg gap becomes even less (to the point where any cost saving is hardly worth talking about in the context of cars costing £40k). When you consider the 340i has a slightly bigger tank the range advantage of a 335d is probably not that significant either so unless you really need the X-Drive I'm not sure a 335d makes a lot of sense (good car though it undoubtedly is).I honestly think the difference would be more like 7mpg, so around £5 a week more in fuel for the petrol for someone doing 12,000 miles pa.
A very good customer of mine has an F30 330d touring, rwd, reckons he gets 450 miles out of a tank when it is mainly shorter stuff, and just under 600 miles when all motorway.
So that is somewhere between 36mpg and 45mpg.
I bet the 340i would get 29mpg and 38mpg respectively.
Lovely looking car ifran, seen a few about now and think they look stunning, on of the few BMWs at the mo that I really do think look great.
I agree with the 20d thing, I thought if going diesel I may as well just go the whole hog and go for the economy route.
Often see 700 miles from a tank on the X3, so I bet you will do even better than that.
Also that is 700 miles from 60 odd litres of fuel, I used to see 400 miles from 80 litres on my ML. The 30d would have seen 350-450 litres from what owners are saying on the forums. And it is not that sort of car to need it, mine is shipped and does 0-60 in just over 7 seconds so never feels slow.
I agree with the 20d thing, I thought if going diesel I may as well just go the whole hog and go for the economy route.
Often see 700 miles from a tank on the X3, so I bet you will do even better than that.
Also that is 700 miles from 60 odd litres of fuel, I used to see 400 miles from 80 litres on my ML. The 30d would have seen 350-450 litres from what owners are saying on the forums. And it is not that sort of car to need it, mine is shipped and does 0-60 in just over 7 seconds so never feels slow.
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