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clived said:
I had my 535d "DMS'd" - was very happy with the results indeed.
On my test drive my instant reaction was "it's a ****ing missile"
Did you inform your insurers, if so how much did the premium rise by?
Are you happy that the car would be under guarantee still if a turbo or gearbox blew, because of the extra power/torque?
Great article, thanks. Lucky for you to have the opportunity to enjoy this fantastic automobile ! Just this past week I attended the SAE's Industry and Government meeting in Washington DC, where several new diesel technology vehicles were showcased, including this BMW535d. I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to drive this one twice around the course, and enjoyed every moment. My question is when will BMW bring this one to the states? I'm assuming that it will meet the most stringent exhaust emission standards, at least for most states outside of California. Any insights on this question?
Jim
Jim
Diagnosic said:
I think, that DMS is the best solution for this car!
I've never really understood, if what they do is so
good, why aren't BMW offering it as standard ?
Surely any engine remap for performance should require
matching upgrades in brakes, suspension etc etc etc,
or do DMS do that as well ?
Not that I'm ever likely to be a DMS customer, just curious.
gorringo said:
10 days to go and mine arrives....chopping in my 911 (996) C2, can't wait.
Real life review to follow but i reckon i will have a bigger smile on my face with the diesel!!!
Real life review to follow but i reckon i will have a bigger smile on my face with the diesel!!!
A diesel 4 door saloon will make you smile more than a Porsche 911?
As for the le Mans winner comment, lol, if diesel is so good why are they allowed 1.9L more displacement, bigger restrictors, fuel fillers and much more boost, make it a level playing field and they would be nowhere
dcb said:
Diagnosic said:
I think, that DMS is the best solution for this car!
I've never really understood, if what they do is so
good, why aren't BMW offering it as standard ?
Surely any engine remap for performance should require
matching upgrades in brakes, suspension etc etc etc,
or do DMS do that as well ?
Not that I'm ever likely to be a DMS customer, just curious.
Beacuse BMW have to provide a car that is fit for a variety of countries emissions regs, fuel quality, temperature ranges etc etc etc - its a compromised map.
DMS et al simply take up the slack thats available. And when it comes to turbos, they are able to unleash justa tad more boost lower down that would really screw up the EU emissions cycle for a manufacturere, but in the real world makes bog all difference.
Other enhancements, such as brakes etc are down to you as the owner. Realistically the brakes are a non-issue - they are designed for a 155 mph car anyway (allegedly!
)m12_nathan said:
A diesel 4 door saloon will make you smile more than a Porsche 911?
Yep I agree, 911's are meant to be quick, but a diesel estate......huge grin factor.
m12_nathan said:
As for the le Mans winner comment, lol, if diesel is so good why are they allowed 1.9L more displacement, bigger restrictors, fuel fillers and much more boost, make it a level playing field and they would be nowhere
Since when has Le Mans or come to think of it any sport been a level "Italian" playing field!
diagnosic said:
Remapping (DMS) and (longterm) reliability: I've got feedback from owners with more than 60'000 miles. I tried hard, but I couldn't find one single costumer of DMS with problems with the upgrade or with the BMW-dealer (warranty).
That's the way to go for 535d!
Diagnosic
That's the way to go for 535d!
Diagnosic
I have been considering getting my 535d chipped by DMS for a few months now, but I am concerned as it is on a 3yr BMW contract hire.
In the event of a problem or during a routine service is it detectable? because this would surely invalidate the warranty.
Anyone on here any experience of this?
Griffski said:
diagnosic said:
Remapping (DMS) and (longterm) reliability: I've got feedback from owners with more than 60'000 miles. I tried hard, but I couldn't find one single costumer of DMS with problems with the upgrade or with the BMW-dealer (warranty).
That's the way to go for 535d!
Diagnosic
That's the way to go for 535d!
Diagnosic
I have been considering getting my 535d chipped by DMS for a few months now, but I am concerned as it is on a 3yr BMW contract hire.
In the event of a problem or during a routine service is it detectable? because this would surely invalidate the warranty.
Anyone on here any experience of this?
I have the same concern which has stopped me doing it so far. However I did speak to a guy from another mapping specialist (name escapes me now, old age creeping in!) who assured me that the re-mapping was not detectable under normal circumstances. The only way it could be detected was if a technician downloaded the map and compared it to an original. How true this is I could not say.
I have now done 2000 miles since James at DMS remapped my 535d saloon.
The improvement isn't quite what some people were claiming, but it is more powerful, without doubt.
I am happy with it, still averages 30 mpg, 40+ mpg on a run, rarely below 26 mpg unless really hooning it and it does the 'family holiday car' job admirably well when needed. A mate has a Lancer EVO 300 and there is precious little in it between our cars, other than from a standing start.
I recommend the DMS treatment.
The improvement isn't quite what some people were claiming, but it is more powerful, without doubt.
I am happy with it, still averages 30 mpg, 40+ mpg on a run, rarely below 26 mpg unless really hooning it and it does the 'family holiday car' job admirably well when needed. A mate has a Lancer EVO 300 and there is precious little in it between our cars, other than from a standing start.
I recommend the DMS treatment.
Ah - this thread has popped up again! We've had our 535d sport touring for a few months now and am about to transfer the insurance from my wife. I want to DMS it, but I also want to be legal and tell the insurance company (I hate having to worry about that if I'm ever in a situation I need to claim, or someone is claiming against me). I'm sure I can find someone that will do it, but I'd rather not spend a day doing it. Any recommendations for companies? Surely some of you chipped people must have declared it! I have massively modified other cars without it being a real issue.
Can anyone tell me if when DMS do the upgrades to the 535d and then reverse it prior to the services, the central chips in the BMW I presume would have a record of this. It seems that in IT speak nothing ever get removes from my PC at work, so I presume that someone from BMW would notice if the central 'black box' had been tampered with and an insurance company would now have a look at that box before settling any claims on performance diesels?
i have no idea if it would keep a log.
i have no idea if it would keep a log.
It probably has a "last update time", but won't save the previous config, so probably impossibly to say much beyond that something was changed. I don't think it's likely insurance companies would check, but it's not really something I want to risk either. Also, in a major accident it seems unlikely you'd have access to the wreck to undo the mapping.
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