Chevy SS vs BMW M3

Chevy SS vs BMW M3

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jpf

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1,311 posts

275 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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Here in the USA, the Chevy SS (Holden) seems to be a very under the radar kind of car.

Knowing that a manual M3 similarly equipped to a Chevy SS comes in at $67,000 and the Chevy SS is $49,000.

Why is the BMW worth $18,000 more? 10 more horsepower and .7 of a second faster to 60 MPH...IS that the reason?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd February 2016
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You sound like a man who hasn't driven both?

mikearwas

1,112 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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jpf said:
Here in the USA, the Chevy SS (Holden) seems to be a very under the radar kind of car.

Knowing that a manual M3 similarly equipped to a Chevy SS comes in at $67,000 and the Chevy SS is $49,000.

Why is the BMW worth $18,000 more? 10 more horsepower and .7 of a second faster to 60 MPH...IS that the reason?
No, no it isn't.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Because German.

Fitz666

634 posts

141 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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And corners

R8VXF

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Fitz666 said:
And corners
Nope

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Fitz666 said:
And corners
and build quality

roofer

5,136 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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This time next year, the Chevy will be worth £4.62

The BMW will retain some value....and go round corners...without Axle tramp

R8VXF

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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roofer said:
This time next year, the Chevy will be worth £4.62

The BMW will retain some value....and go round corners...without Axle tramp
Do you even....

roofer

5,136 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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R8VXF said:
roofer said:
This time next year, the Chevy will be worth £4.62

The BMW will retain some value....and go round corners...without Axle tramp
Do you even....
And the crap auto box, due to the rarity of Manual versions...

And " Do I even?" ...

Yes. My first 'Chevy' was a 396 SS Camaro...followed by many variations. On the version discussed, I would imagine there is still some bits of Tom Walkinshaws intervention in there somewhere, but an M3 it's not.

Which is maybe why the M3 is dearer, along with taxes at a guess?


R8VXF

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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You mentioned axle tramp. You know nothing.

roofer

5,136 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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R8VXF said:
You mentioned axle tramp. You know nothing.
Correct

http://www.carid.com/2014-chevy-ss-suspension-syst...

Now, I'm not trying to 'diss' your Vauxhall, or the fact you couldn't afford an M5, but y'know....as previously, you can't put an M car in the same category as a Vauxhall/Holden/Chevy.

Now don't get me wrong, I am a Chevy fan, probably built more small blocks than you've had Vauxhalls, but the Holden/Vauxhall/Chevy is a truck chassis in comparison to that produced by 'Zee Germans' non?

R8VXF

6,788 posts

114 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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roofer said:
Correct

http://www.carid.com/2014-chevy-ss-suspension-syst...

Now, I'm not trying to 'diss' your Vauxhall, or the fact you couldn't afford an M5, but y'know....as previously, you can't put an M car in the same category as a Vauxhall/Holden/Chevy.

Now don't get me wrong, I am a Chevy fan, probably built more small blocks than you've had Vauxhalls, but the Holden/Vauxhall/Chevy is a truck chassis in comparison to that produced by 'Zee Germans' non?
The SS is nothing like the GTS in setup at the end of the day, but the whole "couldn't afford an M5" is bks. I can afford an M5, I just do not like them. I do actually own a BMW, I just find their staff and service fking horrendous, so will not be giving them any of my money ever again. Feel free to come over and slag off all the problems with the VXR8 that you think it has without ever having sat in one. Bet you cannot actually find any of the problems you think you will find.

Kawasicki

13,041 posts

234 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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roofer said:
Correct

http://www.carid.com/2014-chevy-ss-suspension-syst...

Now, I'm not trying to 'diss' your Vauxhall, or the fact you couldn't afford an M5, but y'know....as previously, you can't put an M car in the same category as a Vauxhall/Holden/Chevy.

Now don't get me wrong, I am a Chevy fan, probably built more small blocks than you've had Vauxhalls, but the Holden/Vauxhall/Chevy is a truck chassis in comparison to that produced by 'Zee Germans' non?
you have no clue.

roofer

5,136 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th February 2016
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Nope, not a fking clue biggrin

ZX10R NIN

27,494 posts

124 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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If the SS is like the VXR then get it you won't regret it plus with the half 18k difference you can turn it into an even more fun machine.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

114 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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ZX10R NIN said:
If the SS is like the VXR then get it you won't regret it plus with the half 18k difference you can turn it into an even more fun machine.
The SS is the LS3 NA version. 5-10k on a supercharger upgrade and you are laughing biggrin

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Pretty sure faults could be pointed out in both cars. Am also pretty confident people don't just buy the SS because they can't afford an M5!

I didn't much like the interior of the SS I looked at but it certainly made a good noise! In fact it was better sounding that the V8 M3 I'd driven there in.

Sohlman

590 posts

253 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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I believe I am in a position to comment. Having had many BMW's I currently run a Vauxhall/Holden 5.7vxr monaro.

In comparison to a BMW m3 of a 2005 vintage the M3 has it beaten in most scenario's handling, quality of plastics, better engineered etc. straight line performance is more similar and on the noise stakes while an e46 m3 has one of the sweetest sounding engines around a bairly silenced LS1/2/3 engine is something to behold. The one thing the Holden has is buckets of character.

From an engineering build quality perspective their is a massive gulf. This is where the price difference is. However character and imperfections make the Holdens interesting and they get under your skin. Rarety is also a bonus as with my model their are 62 world wide. This certainly in the UK makes depreciation less of a factor.

R8VXF

6,788 posts

114 months

Friday 5th February 2016
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Sohlman said:
I believe I am in a position to comment. Having had many BMW's I currently run a Vauxhall/Holden 5.7vxr monaro.

In comparison to a BMW m3 of a 2005 vintage the M3 has it beaten in most scenario's handling, quality of plastics, better engineered etc. straight line performance is more similar and on the noise stakes while an e46 m3 has one of the sweetest sounding engines around a bairly silenced LS1/2/3 engine is something to behold. The one thing the Holden has is buckets of character.

From an engineering build quality perspective their is a massive gulf. This is where the price difference is. However character and imperfections make the Holdens interesting and they get under your skin. Rarety is also a bonus as with my model their are 62 world wide. This certainly in the UK makes depreciation less of a factor.
Gen-F build quality eclipses even the E series so yeah, your ro is a bit worse than that. We should go for a drive out if you are ever in ther area.