Low mileage M52 motor - bad idea??

Low mileage M52 motor - bad idea??

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BGarside

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137 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Viewing a '94 E36 328i on Sunday, nikasil motor on 33k miles. Car looks clean but not cheap. Is this a bad idea? Perhaps any damage done by high sulphur fuel pre-2000 may not have manifested due to low miles?

I've been looking for a good 328 to replace my 325 for a while now and this looks better than most...

ncbbmw

409 posts

184 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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BGarside said:
Viewing a '94 E36 328i on Sunday, nikasil motor on 33k miles. Car looks clean but not cheap. Is this a bad idea? Perhaps any damage done by high sulphur fuel pre-2000 may not have manifested due to low miles?

I've been looking for a good 328 to replace my 325 for a while now and this looks better than most...
If its got this far it will probably be be fine.

From memory it was mostly Shell Petrol (Shellmax I think) that caused the problem and the failure rate varied across the country, BMW believed the issue was only caused by petrol from certain fuel dumps, the Midlands and North West being the worst.

BGarside

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Friday 6th May 2016
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Cheers. Didn't know the fuel issue was regional, so I'll need to check where the car has lived. Just worried any early bore damage that might have occurred has not yet developed into loss of compression / oil burning due to the low mileage....

Huff

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191 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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From 2008-2014 I stuck over 70K miles on a nikasil 4.0 V8 in a E34 540 and it was smooth, smooth sailing I'd love to do again.

Basically, nikasil issues arose from the sulphur content in some fuels (far worse in some US states than here) and, especially, cars not being driven far enough to get fully-warmed: the excess sulphur burns to SO2 = sulphuric acid condensing in a cool engine = etched cylinder walls leading to excess wear.

The bandaid for some was a software revision to run the coolant hotter (hold thermostat closed longer to reduce such condensation), but if the car was actually used for decent runs unlikely an issue in the first place. ALL UK/EU petrol went ultra-low-sulphur in 2000; if it has survived this long, it'll be fine.

If the prospect still worries you, but want the car, and its not 'impulse buy' funds level, it could be worth doing a compression test - either during viewing or say agree to pay a local garage. Might cost you £100, but then you'll know exacty what you are looking at.

Good luck, the 328 remains a fine car smile

Edited by Huff on Friday 6th May 22:51

Mr Tidy

22,259 posts

127 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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If you have found a 22 year old 328i with only 33K miles recorded I'm struggling to see how it can end badly - it's not like there are going to be loads of them around!

Good luck!thumbup

Huff

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191 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Yeah, that too biggrin

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Is this the green 328 coupe? I wouid go for it tbh.

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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A '94 328, that's very early! I was under the impression the 328 wasn't released until 95/96?

Huff said:
The bandaid for some was a software revision to run the coolant hotter (hold thermostat closed longer to reduce such condensation), but if the car was actually used for decent runs unlikely an issue in the first place. ALL UK/EU petrol went ultra-low-sulphur in 2000; if it has survived this long, it'll be fine.
I'm generally in agreement with this opinion. In fact my 328 is on the original Nikasil engine and that didn't put me off buying it at all.

My only slight concern would be that with such low mileage, the 'damage' has already been done but it hasn't covered enough miles for it to become obviously symptomatic. I'd be more confident of saying it'll be fine if the car had covered 133k tbh.

Excessive oil usage should be a massive red flag. IME the M52 does not burn oil excessively and should not require top ups.

As mentioned in the OP, at 33k miles and with decent 328s hard to find, I expect this isn't going to be a cheap car. Given that, as Huff suggests it may be prudent to get a compression test to put your mind at ease.

Best of luck and let us know how you get on. smile

Edited by g3org3y on Saturday 7th May 22:06


Edited by g3org3y on Saturday 7th May 22:14

bmwmike

6,942 posts

108 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Is bore / piston ring wear even still a real thing these days? Modern oils are fantastic. 300k is the new 100k.


BGarside

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137 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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Well, bought the car, so I hope the engine is OK or I'll be in for another £2k bill!! Yes, it's the green/blue one on carandclassic.

Will be going to my local BMW specialist for a compression check and leak-down test (if they can do it) to check all is well.

Then I'll need to sell my 325 coupe, a decision I hopefully won't regret.....

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Great news, let us know how you get on. Pics required of course. smile

528Sport

1,431 posts

234 months

Tuesday 10th May 2016
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BGarside said:
Well, bought the car, so I hope the engine is OK or I'll be in for another £2k bill!! Yes, it's the green/blue one on carandclassic.

Will be going to my local BMW specialist for a compression check and leak-down test (if they can do it) to check all is well.

Then I'll need to sell my 325 coupe, a decision I hopefully won't regret.....
I've sent a PM but just in case it doesn't arrive Could you pm me details of the 325 please

Cheers.


Edited by 528Sport on Tuesday 10th May 22:11

BGarside

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Tuesday 10th May 2016
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Hoping to pick the car up in the next week or two. Then pics etc. Then the hard work of making it as good as my old coupe begins...

Going to need new tyres, brakes, full service and all oils/fluids replaced, usual waterpump/thermostat and housing, suspension bushes, etc etc.