new owner, 335d
Discussion
JoeMarano said:
Just been watching this thread as I had an encounter with a 335d a week or so ago in my Polo gti (the new 1.8 turbo one) and was quite unimpressed as I was under the impression they have massive torque? Not sure on what year it was perhaps not the latest one? (I'm not really into bmw's)
Best case scenario is I have 210 bhp (they seem to put out a bit more than the book figure of 189bhp) and 236ib/ft. I know I have a weight advantage but I was expecting more as the thing must have been mapped or tuned by the amount of smoke/noise it was putting out but it only pulled a length or two and that was uphill!
189bhp that would be a WXY reg 2.9ltr 330d which was a 7.8 second car to 62mph. Best case scenario is I have 210 bhp (they seem to put out a bit more than the book figure of 189bhp) and 236ib/ft. I know I have a weight advantage but I was expecting more as the thing must have been mapped or tuned by the amount of smoke/noise it was putting out but it only pulled a length or two and that was uphill!
If it's the brand new one its 4.7seconds to 62mph
If it's he E90 then it's 6.2 seconds to 62mph
And given the 0-62mph isn't really what they are renowned for.
As for smog etc they should be utterly clean both mine are not even a single puff of smoke ever so if it's like that it would suggest at least one of the injectors is shot (ie dripping in fuel instead of a fine spray resulting in vastly less power & smog).
A remapped 335/535d is a 390bhp vehicle
Lastly of course he might of simply been driving normally and unaware that you were even trying/as he wasn't. It's a big assumption that on the road people are actually giving everything their car has to offer if you are - nearly always they are not
JoeMarano said:
Hmmm. It was definately a 335d I assumed it was mapped or tuned in some way because the rest of the car looked that way.
Could have been the e90 I suppose as top gear recently tested the 0-60 on the polo and got 6.2 instead of the book figure of 6.7
So if it was mapped which no one knows it is much faster than the Polo period if driven to its maximum, maybe it wasn't maybe he didn't maybe there was a faultCould have been the e90 I suppose as top gear recently tested the 0-60 on the polo and got 6.2 instead of the book figure of 6.7
I know not quite the same, but...I've got a mapped e92 330d, and had a race with an Ibiza Bocanegra. It was lowered, and had a custom exhaust, so you would know it's highly likely to have been mapped also. As in those cars, why would you fit a large exhaust and not spend £300 on a map!?
Anyway, I walked it. It wasn't in the same performance league at all. I appreciate the 1.8 is marginally quicker than the 1.4t, but then a mapped 335d is more than marginally quicker than a mapped 330d. When you have 50% more power than another car in a straight line race, you're going to pull more than a car length or so, or you weren't trying to begin with.
Just my 2 cents.
Anyway, I walked it. It wasn't in the same performance league at all. I appreciate the 1.8 is marginally quicker than the 1.4t, but then a mapped 335d is more than marginally quicker than a mapped 330d. When you have 50% more power than another car in a straight line race, you're going to pull more than a car length or so, or you weren't trying to begin with.
Just my 2 cents.
Welshbeef said:
How much was the 390bhp DMS remap?
Any impact to mpg when driving it normally?
What impact to insurance as this is a 25% power enhancement
Have they raised the rev limiter to 6,000 from 5750 rpm?
Does it work better with premium derv?
The remap from DMS is £1100-ish I think but I turned up with a bunch of M5/6 owners on a group buy and got a good discount.Any impact to mpg when driving it normally?
What impact to insurance as this is a 25% power enhancement
Have they raised the rev limiter to 6,000 from 5750 rpm?
Does it work better with premium derv?
Driving 'normally' is hard to measure as my average speeds have gone up and average MPG over the life of the car dropped. With the extra confidence of a decent suspension set-up as well, it's hard not to enjoy the car alot more than I used to! It may be 1-2mph down but seems about the same to me.
The power increase impacts will vary by insurer; 25%> would be quite a premium hike. I would suggest an honest disclosure but don't imagine they'll be making a habit of confirming power increases by dyno any time soon. The increase is kinda what you say it is, really. I think mine was legitimately 24.5% anyway. My increase was about £50/yr for the combo of a remap and aftermarket suspension.
No rev limiter increase that I'm aware of, but I don't think I have taken it over 5500rpm ever anyway. There really is no need, the peak power range is 3800-4800 and you're best off shifting at 5k in 1st and about 4500-4800 above that.
Premium derv - I'm not sure. DMS advised use of it as it gives the optimal burn. Not quantified though. To me there's nothing in it power-wise, but it does feel a bit more responsive and was significantly smoother on cold winter runs before getting up to temp. Normal running a bit quieter + smoother perhaps, which would be expected with a more consistent burn. Not wanting to get into it with the 'premium fuel is marketing tripe, it's 95% the same fuel' crew... suffice to say I now stick it in most of the time, it's certainly more consistent, I've had a few poor fill-ups where the car doesn't perform as well but always with regular and mostly supermarket 'emergency pit stop' fuel. Don't ever take it to Asda. No issues with Tesco's though to be fair.
Welshbeef said:
JoeMarano said:
Just been watching this thread as I had an encounter with a 335d a week or so ago in my Polo gti (the new 1.8 turbo one) and was quite unimpressed as I was under the impression they have massive torque? Not sure on what year it was perhaps not the latest one? (I'm not really into bmw's)
Best case scenario is I have 210 bhp (they seem to put out a bit more than the book figure of 189bhp) and 236ib/ft. I know I have a weight advantage but I was expecting more as the thing must have been mapped or tuned by the amount of smoke/noise it was putting out but it only pulled a length or two and that was uphill!
189bhp that would be a WXY reg 2.9ltr 330d which was a 7.8 second car to 62mph. Best case scenario is I have 210 bhp (they seem to put out a bit more than the book figure of 189bhp) and 236ib/ft. I know I have a weight advantage but I was expecting more as the thing must have been mapped or tuned by the amount of smoke/noise it was putting out but it only pulled a length or two and that was uphill!
If it's the brand new one its 4.7seconds to 62mph
If it's he E90 then it's 6.2 seconds to 62mph
And given the 0-62mph isn't really what they are renowned for.
As for smog etc they should be utterly clean both mine are not even a single puff of smoke ever so if it's like that it would suggest at least one of the injectors is shot (ie dripping in fuel instead of a fine spray resulting in vastly less power & smog).
A remapped 335/535d is a 390bhp vehicle
Lastly of course he might of simply been driving normally and unaware that you were even trying/as he wasn't. It's a big assumption that on the road people are actually giving everything their car has to offer if you are - nearly always they are not
A very old VW Bora TDI pulled out to overtake me on a dual carriage way in a cloud of soot yesterday and clearly thought we was "racing" me in my Z4 35i (totally standard). He completed his overtake and at the next junction even looked over at me and gave me a smirk. I was accelerating on cruise control in D mode (hardly going for it) and must have been pulling no more than 2,500rpm at the time.
I've not had the pleasure of driving a 335d but have driven a 635d and 640d and both were mighty impressive complimented brilliantly by the auto gearbox. I'd imagine the newest 335d is a great combination of performance and economy!
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