640d Runflat to non runflat
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I will never go back to RFT's either.
I swapped to some really good Bridgestone S02's and never looked back.
Today I'm in a brand new 2016 640d with RFT's and can easily feel the difference (my car is in for some recall work).
Do it and don't look back, it transforms the car. I bought the compressor and gunk pack from Amazon.
I swapped to some really good Bridgestone S02's and never looked back.
Today I'm in a brand new 2016 640d with RFT's and can easily feel the difference (my car is in for some recall work).
Do it and don't look back, it transforms the car. I bought the compressor and gunk pack from Amazon.
I tried Nexen's NFera SU1 (on my (E63 635D) because they did so well on TyreReviews.co.uk
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Size/18-Inch-Tyr...
Could not fault them at all (fast A-road or motorway use mainly) and they've done well over 10,000 miles more quietly, miles more comfortably and more economically than the RFTs they replaced.
They were £58+ fitting per corner (now a little more).
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre-Size/18-Inch-Tyr...
Could not fault them at all (fast A-road or motorway use mainly) and they've done well over 10,000 miles more quietly, miles more comfortably and more economically than the RFTs they replaced.
They were £58+ fitting per corner (now a little more).
Further to reading another thread, I`ve had the RFT`s on my 640d swapped for 4 x Falken 453`s (245/35/20 & 275/30/20) this morning.
Cost all in £512. Sold the front Dunlops on eBay for £200.
I actually cannot believe that BMW are happy to ruin their cars with these hateful tyres.
What a difference, its night and day. So much nicer to drive, it's like driving a different car.
I don't like the look and f the Falkens as much, but the rear tyres are very limited in that size and wanted a matching set.
Looking forward so see how it does on the winter rubber
Cost all in £512. Sold the front Dunlops on eBay for £200.
I actually cannot believe that BMW are happy to ruin their cars with these hateful tyres.
What a difference, its night and day. So much nicer to drive, it's like driving a different car.
I don't like the look and f the Falkens as much, but the rear tyres are very limited in that size and wanted a matching set.
Looking forward so see how it does on the winter rubber
cerb4.5lee said:
I changed to non run flats on the 640d just over a year ago and it transformed the ride and handling and improved steering feel...however I've suffered two punctures on the rear already resulting in me having to put two more brand new tyres on.
Maybe I've just been very unlucky but I am now wishing I'd stuck with the run flats and it's sods law.
Suffered another puncture today Maybe I've just been very unlucky but I am now wishing I'd stuck with the run flats and it's sods law.
that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015. That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
cerb4.5lee said:
Suffered another puncture today that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015.
That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
I spoke to the AA last week about membership, and they said they would only take me 10 miles for a puncture repair, is that your cover gives? that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015. That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
cerb4.5lee said:
Suffered another puncture today that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015.
That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Runflats are not puncture resistant so I'm not sure why you'd have fared better with them fitted? that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015. That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Fox- said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Suffered another puncture today that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015.
That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Runflats are not puncture resistant so I'm not sure why you'd have fared better with them fitted? that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015. That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
You're right, no reason why an RFT would be more or less likely to be punctured. But you might stand more of a chance of getting yourself to somewhere the tyre could be repaired with RFTs. Or at least getting yourself somewhere..........
REALIST123 said:
You're right, no reason why an RFT would be more or less likely to be punctured. But you might stand more of a chance of getting yourself to somewhere the tyre could be repaired with RFTs. Or at least getting yourself somewhere..........
gareth h said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Suffered another puncture today that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015.
That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
I spoke to the AA last week about membership, and they said they would only take me 10 miles for a puncture repair, is that your cover gives? that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015. That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Fox- said:
Runflats are not puncture resistant so I'm not sure why you'd have fared better with them fitted?
I agree in sentiment but it seems with the 30 profile on a 20 inch rim the normal tyres just aren't holding up very well(all 3 punctures have been the rear). Whereas if I'd stuck with the runflats I wouldn't be stranded at the side of the road, and I could at least either limp home or to the nearest garage.
cerb4.5lee said:
I agree in sentiment but it seems with the 30 profile on a 20 inch rim the normal tyres just aren't holding up very well(all 3 punctures have been the rear).
Whereas if I'd stuck with the runflats I wouldn't be stranded at the side of the road, and I could at least either limp home or to the nearest garage.
Hello Cerb dont get stranded. mine have ultraseal in them. Last year a flipping great big screw in the shoulder,an area ultraseal say will not be helped by their gunk however it did, it turned it into a runflat and drove 60 miles on it no problem.Whereas if I'd stuck with the runflats I wouldn't be stranded at the side of the road, and I could at least either limp home or to the nearest garage.
smashy said:
Hello Cerb dont get stranded. mine have ultraseal in them. Last year a flipping great big screw in the shoulder,an area ultraseal say will not be helped by their gunk however it did, it turned it into a runflat and drove 60 miles on it no problem.
That sounds like a cracking set up thanks and being stranded hasn't been much fun for sure. The 275's either way are wide you then add the width of the 6 into account occassionally that rear on smaller a roads is going to be riding through the crap in the road.
Saying that i have been running around on my 17 inch Winters since November. The ride is massively different, turn in is not particularly "positive" mind like you get with the larger wheels and summer tyres.
My 20's are going to Lepsons this week for a full strip down and refinish in bright sparkle silver.
Saying that i have been running around on my 17 inch Winters since November. The ride is massively different, turn in is not particularly "positive" mind like you get with the larger wheels and summer tyres.
My 20's are going to Lepsons this week for a full strip down and refinish in bright sparkle silver.
Fox- said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Suffered another puncture today that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015.
That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Runflats are not puncture resistant so I'm not sure why you'd have fared better with them fitted? that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015. That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
RobM77 said:
Fox- said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Suffered another puncture today that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015.
That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Runflats are not puncture resistant so I'm not sure why you'd have fared better with them fitted? that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015. That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Some believe RFTs are worse, based on their own experience, though there's no evidence that I've ever seen either way.
Have you been running at higher pressure to compensate for the softer sidewalls by any chance?
REALIST123 said:
RobM77 said:
Fox- said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Suffered another puncture today that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015.
That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Runflats are not puncture resistant so I'm not sure why you'd have fared better with them fitted? that's three punctures since I binned the run flats in June 2015. That's three brand new rears I've put on now and surely that wouldn't have happened if I'd stayed with the runflats.
At least I'm getting some use out of my AA membership though!
Some believe RFTs are worse, based on their own experience, though there's no evidence that I've ever seen either way.
Have you been running at higher pressure to compensate for the softer sidewalls by any chance?
I'm running at the BMW recommended tyre pressures.
With regard to the RFT debate, I think the stiff sidewall probably does cause a jiggly ride with a low profile tyre, as I had on my Z4C, but in my experience of trying both extensively on my E90s, with the standard 205/55/16 tyre, the RFT rides and handles noticeably better than the non-RFT, which is way too soft and bouncy. I need to find out if the low drag wheels on my ED will handle RFTs, but if they will then I'll switch.
Edited by RobM77 on Wednesday 15th March 12:19
Edited by RobM77 on Wednesday 15th March 12:21
Not sure on the puncture resistance of RFT's compared to normal tyres when talking about potholes, but what I have noticed after making the switch to PS4's, is that hitting a pothole in the non-RFT is much kinder to the rest of the car. When hitting a pothole with the old Bridgestones, the subsequent thump and vibrations through the car always made me wince then listen out for noises that weren't there before - now there's a slight noise and that's about it.
Chalk me down as another who is glad they made the switch, I've had them on for 4 months now, and the car is completely transformed. Ride, handling, fuel consumption, all improved. The Pilot Sport 4 is a revelation as well, handling even monsoon conditions with aplomb.
Chalk me down as another who is glad they made the switch, I've had them on for 4 months now, and the car is completely transformed. Ride, handling, fuel consumption, all improved. The Pilot Sport 4 is a revelation as well, handling even monsoon conditions with aplomb.
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