F11 535d M-sport, Good idea?

[JMBMWM5]

Stu-nph26 said:

Did you take a PCP? Ive been looking at a 440i when my lease goes back but if I can get 30% on a 535D then that a no brainer.

Nope always cash + PX.
You will never get 30% on that car.

[Welshbeef]

What is the GFV on PCP with this car?

[Griffrich]

Thanks for the replies! Looks like I'm heading back into the configurator for mare confusion!!
I didn't realise the VDC on it's own actually raised the ride height of the car, does the std m-sport suspension on the touring ride well enough? (bear in mind I'm coming from a Black Edition A4 with 19 inch alloys)

[Welshbeef]

Welshbeef said:

What is the GFV on PCP with this car?

No one have an answer to this - it could be the trigger to a decision for OP and others here. Not sure you can get PCP from BMW or another if you buy via Drive the deal Broadspeed etc? Isi t really possible or just I saved in theory 30%

[Fox-]

Welshbeef said:

No one have an answer to this - it could be the trigger to a decision for OP and others here. Not sure you can get PCP from BMW or another if you buy via Drive the deal Broadspeed etc? Isi t really possible or just I saved in theory 30%

Of course you can get the PCP from BMW via the brokers - infact the discount they advertise usually includes the deposit contribution on the PCP.

Nobody has an answer to your question, the GFV will depend on the mileage, term and specification of the individual car.

[Welshbeef]

13k miles
Every option excl individual and as a sample basic option too
2/3/4 year deal.

[Fox-]

Welshbeef said:

13k miles
Every option excl individual and as a sample basic option too
2/3/4 year deal.

Nobody ever buys a car with 'Every option' so why would anyone waste actual time in getting a finance quote on one?

[Welshbeef]

Fox- said:

Welshbeef said:

13k miles
Every option excl individual and as a sample basic option too
2/3/4 year deal.

Nobody ever buys a car with 'Every option' so why would anyone waste actual time in getting a finance quote on one?

No one has the GFV info yet which is the key point to prove that we should buy now or not. That's my point.

[Griffrich]

Chaps! Appreciate the interset here!
One quote I've had was based on a list plus options of approx £62K, deal (from dealer via C2C) was at £45.3K over 4 years at 10k miles with a GFV at the end of 48 mths of £20.5k (£399 pcm) I put in £11.3K (p/x plus cash)

I'm refining the options list based on peoples thoughts here and I'm getting a little stuck on whether to option full adaptive drive, just vdc or stick with std m-sport suspension. I'm keen to ensure a good ride quality (I won't be hooning around country lanes too much) Not sure which would be the best to go for as I'm unlikely to be able to test drive differing set ups. I understand the VDC makes a difference on an SE spec car but not sure if going for m-sport changes things from just the VDC perspective. My quandry is driven by the costs difference, £958 for vdc £2.7k for adaptive drive.

On another note what would I need to add in order to play my older (30 pin connection) ipod via the idrive?

Cheers for the assitance guys!
Rich.

[Welshbeef]

Griffrich said:

Chaps! Appreciate the interset here!
One quote I've had was based on a list plus options of approx £62K, deal (from dealer via C2C) was at £45.3K over 4 years at 10k miles with a GFV at the end of 48 mths of £20.5k (£399 pcm) I put in £11.3K (p/x plus cash)

I'm refining the options list based on peoples thoughts here and I'm getting a little stuck on whether to option full adaptive drive, just vdc or stick with std m-sport suspension. I'm keen to ensure a good ride quality (I won't be hooning around country lanes too much) Not sure which would be the best to go for as I'm unlikely to be able to test drive differing set ups. I understand the VDC makes a difference on an SE spec car but not sure if going for m-sport changes things from just the VDC perspective. My quandry is driven by the costs difference, £958 for vdc £2.7k for adaptive drive.

On another note what would I need to add in order to play my older (30 pin connection) ipod via the idrive?

Cheers for the assitance guys!
Rich.

So £30,452 all up for 48months use incl part x £634pcm. Hmm not that cheap and surprised at the low GFV guess that's he impact of the new model.

[Fox-]

Go and drive an M Sport with passive suspension. Personally I find the ride and handling balance to be absolutely fine and would not option VDC on its own as a result but everyones taste differs.

Adaptive Drive is very good but as you say very expensive.

[sak83]

If you have time its possible to get the GFV from the bmw configurator, once you have your desired configuration use the buy option and it takes you through to the finance calculation which lists the GFV. Its tedious but it allows you to work out the residual cost of any options. Some options add a larger proportion of their cost to the GFV whereas others do not add anything at all.

[sleepezy]

Griffrich said:

On another note what would I need to add in order to play my older (30 pin connection) ipod via the idrive?

Why not stick the music on a £10 USB memory stick and leave it in the armrest slot? That's what I do, and in the value for money stakes has to rank pretty highly... You can scroll through music etc pretty easily that way.

Can't comment on the comparatives between different suspensions as I've only driven the standard. Many have said that the adaptive 'transforms' the car, but I have to admit the bog standard is good enough for my capabilities.

[Welshbeef]

sleepezy said:

Why not stick the music on a £10 USB memory stick and leave it in the armrest slot? That's what I do, and in the value for money stakes has to rank pretty highly... You can scroll through music etc pretty easily that way.

Can't comment on the comparatives between different suspensions as I've only driven the standard. Many have said that the adaptive 'transforms' the car, but I have to admit the bog standard is good enough for my capabilities.

Or glovebox out of the way.

One question what music format does it need to be? - and can you rip all those tunes to the Hard Drive of the car?

[Fox-]

Welshbeef said:

Or glovebox out of the way.

No USB port in the glovebox of post 2012 cars and you can't play music off the glovebox port in the older ones anyway, it's a service port for uploading map data and music to the hard drive.

[JMBMWM5]

Griffrich said:

Chaps! Appreciate the interset here!
One quote I've had was based on a list plus options of approx £62K, deal (from dealer via C2C) was at £45.3K over 4 years at 10k miles with a GFV at the end of 48 mths of £20.5k (£399 pcm) I put in £11.3K (p/x plus cash)

I'm refining the options list based on peoples thoughts here and I'm getting a little stuck on whether to option full adaptive drive, just vdc or stick with std m-sport suspension. I'm keen to ensure a good ride quality (I won't be hooning around country lanes too much) Not sure which would be the best to go for as I'm unlikely to be able to test drive differing set ups. I understand the VDC makes a difference on an SE spec car but not sure if going for m-sport changes things from just the VDC perspective. My quandry is driven by the costs difference, £958 for vdc £2.7k for adaptive drive.

On another note what would I need to add in order to play my older (30 pin connection) ipod via the idrive?

Cheers for the assitance guys!
Rich.

Just get the VDC that is very much worth it, leave the full adaptive drive.

[Fox-]

JMBMWM5 said:

ust get the VDC that is very much worth it, leave the full adaptive drive.

And this is why you HAVE to drive the car. For me I strongly disagree with this sentiment which demonstrates it truly is a matter of personal preference.

VDC removes the M Sport suspension, raises the ride height as a result and VDC in Sport mode is NOT equivalent to passive M Sport suspension, it simply firms the (Non M Sport!) dampers up. The car still pitches and rolls much the same as a conventional SE. This is why on an M Sport, IMHO it should be Adaptive Drive or passive M Sport suspension. Adaptive Drive pairs the VDC with the Dynamic Drive system which gives electronically controlled hydraulic anti-rollbars to counter the bodyroll in the car. It is this pairing that offers the absolute best of all worlds on the F10.

VDC is a sensible option to fit on something like a 520d Luxury or SE purchased for pure Motorway use - but if thats your driving style then you would not be ordering a 535d.

The passive M Sport Suspension is not excessively uncomfortable and is nothing like the notorious setup on something like an E90 M Sport. It offers little additional firmness over the SE but noticeable handling improvements. It's also very easy to find one for demonstration at a dealer to see for yourself, which IMHO is crucial.

Frankly Adaptive Drive, whilst clearly the best of the F10 suspension options, is difficult to argue the case for at £2700.

[Mr_Yogi]

Fox- said:

JMBMWM5 said:

ust get the VDC that is very much worth it, leave the full adaptive drive.

And this is why you HAVE to drive the car. For me I strongly disagree with this sentiment which demonstrates it truly is a matter of personal preference.

VDC removes the M Sport suspension, raises the ride height as a result and VDC in Sport mode is NOT equivalent to passive M Sport suspension, it simply firms the (Non M Sport!) dampers up. The car still pitches and rolls much the same as a conventional SE. This is why on an M Sport, IMHO it should be Adaptive Drive or passive M Sport suspension. Adaptive Drive pairs the VDC with the Dynamic Drive system which gives electronically controlled hydraulic anti-rollbars to counter the bodyroll in the car. It is this pairing that offers the absolute best of all worlds on the F10.

VDC is a sensible option to fit on something like a 520d Luxury or SE purchased for pure Motorway use - but if thats your driving style then you would not be ordering a 535d.

The passive M Sport Suspension is not excessively uncomfortable and is nothing like the notorious setup on something like an E90 M Sport. It offers little additional firmness over the SE but noticeable handling improvements. It's also very easy to find one for demonstration at a dealer to see for yourself, which IMHO is crucial.

Frankly Adaptive Drive, whilst clearly the best of the F10 suspension options, is difficult to argue the case for at £2700.

You do really need to drive them, I have AD on my F11 but even in sport mode I found it more rolly polly that my E39 (530i) Sport. It wasn't leaning in the corners, but felt wallowy front to rear when accellerating and braking. At a constant speed on fast A roads however it was mightly around bends, even if the surface was uneven. I don't think i would enjoy driving a car with just VDC. I have Schnitzer springs on mine now and it's pretty much perfect. Definately try the M sport passive suspension before ordering, you may well love it.

[Fox-]

Mr_Yogi said:

You do really need to drive them, I have AD on my F11 but even in sport mode I found it more rolly polly that my E39 (530i) Sport.

Interesting. My Passive M Sport setup handles just as well as my E39 530i Sport I'd say. Infact the F10 M Sport really does feel like the true successor to the E39 Sport..

[apotts]

Passive M Sport handles fine. But it is thumpy and bumpy all the time. Some people don't seem to care about that.

AD handles (IMO) slightly better then the passive M Sport. It is more neutral in balance at lower speeds. But the AD is like a limo when not cornering. Worth every penny!