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[Crackie]

marting said:

Crackie said:

You're entitled to your opinion about winter tyres, I never used them on my old 944 turbo or either of my M3s; they were OK all year round on Continental Contisports. I did use them on my 335i though; it was far more secure with them on and retrospectively I know that the Porsche and M3s would have been better too. Drivers who have used winter tyres are, in my experience, converts and users for life. Those who have never used them are often sceptics. Ignorance is bliss. You posted that the E92 M3 was capable all year round on summer tyres; I didn't dispute what you said and I certainly didn't say a 335i would spank an M3. What I did was post accurate information about the 335s power delivery relative to the M3s.

As for me driving wrong, as you so eloquently put it, you are making assumptions about things you know nothing about. My view is that winter are better, significantly better than summer tyres in cold, wet, icy, snowy conditions. The evidence of their superiority is compelling / overwhelming in low temperatures and the wet not just snow an ice. Even Mr Tidy uses them........
If you believe that careful use of the right foot is a match for winter tyres then that's your prerogative........no matter how deluded.

You still seem to be missing the point of my post and trying to take offence where none was meant.

I have driven on winter tyres but in a country that gets a lot of snow (Iceland), they were great but in the UK I've never seen similar conditions. I don't live in rural Scotland, nor do most of the country. I would also hazard a guess that most people don't have anywhere near the torque of an N54 on tap. I doubt the majority of the country would want to spend £1k+ on a set of tyres for the handful of occasions they may find them useful on their 5 mile commute.

Morning marting, I was editing my post above at almost the same time as you were writing your reply; our posts were only 1 minute apart but I made a few changes. In particular about the benefits of winter tyres and their relatively low cost.

I did take offence last night but mostly with Mr Tidy's "FFS, get a life" comments rather than you mocking about a 335i spanking an M3 at idle.

Interestingly, Mr Tidy, from earlier in the thread, appears to think winter tyres are worthwhile on relatively low power, low torque cars, in the south of England, at this time of year. He currently has them fitted to his 192Hp, 181 lbft E46 325Ti and lives in Berkshire.

Edited by Crackie on Sunday 18th December 11:00