Is this a good buy?

Is this a good buy?

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Monty Python

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4,812 posts

197 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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http://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/3-Series/3.0-340i-M-Spor...

Given it's list price would probably be north of £40k, is it a good price?

numtumfutunch

4,723 posts

138 months

Tuesday 6th December 2016
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Difficult to tell what options are actually fitted as the options section is unhelpfully population with duplications as well as standard kit

However a 340i auto from a broker with auto box, M sport plus pack and Professional media plus is 35k

So by that measure 34k for someone elses car which has been driven like it was stolen for 101 miles is expensive

Cheers

Smuler

2,286 posts

139 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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I tend to agree with the last responder.
But maybe you could get another chunk of discount off this used car to increase any gap.
In that case, assuming it has all you want in your colour scheme and there's an advantage to you in having the car now it could end up good.

But overall I would rather go for new. Try brokers like broad speed and coast to coast and then push dealers to beat price.

Monty Python

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4,812 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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What sort of saving can you get - new this car would be £46 or thereabouts - can brokers get £13k off list? Broadspeed only show £8800 of a basic 340i.

Mike335i

5,004 posts

102 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Price up a new one, but do it sooner rather than later as in March the new tax system comes into effect. A '17 plate 340i could easily end up over 40k so would be liable for a chunk more tax for the first 5 years.

Nice car though.

Smuler

2,286 posts

139 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Monty Python said:
What sort of saving can you get - new this car would be £46 or thereabouts - can brokers get £13k off list? Broadspeed only show £8800 of a basic 340i.
I would expect a dealer to beat broad speed so you're going to be a few grand up before options.
I don't think your new car would be cheaper than this one, but close and unless you don't value having a new car, no prior owner , a bit longer on warranty, I think it's worth going new.

Or use some new quotes to haggle more of the blue one


dartissimus

938 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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It's one of two things, a pre reg car with discount, or a second hand but nearly new car.

For the first one, the price should be new car discount plus a bit more and for the second one, how much does it drop when driven out of the showroom.

Either way, bid 'em rotten, be prepared to walk away, there's always another.

Published price is just for starters, a serious customer is not for letting go.

Vroomer

1,866 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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numtumfutunch said:
So by that measure 34k for someone elses car which has been driven like it was stolen for 101 miles is expensive

Cheers
Don't wish to be rude, but that is an ill-informed comment.

The car is clearly a pre-reg and will be virtually undriven and 'as new'.

And if you look at the odometer pic, you will see that the actual mileage is 9, yes just 9 miles.

Monty Python

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4,812 posts

197 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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It may be irrelevant now - I've fond another with 17 miles on it, higher spec and three grand cheaper. Test drive booked for Friday :-)

Smuler

2,286 posts

139 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Monty Python said:
It may be irrelevant now - I've fond another with 17 miles on it, higher spec and three grand cheaper. Test drive booked for Friday :-)
That almost certainly will be a good buy then wink
Good luck !


Theophany

1,069 posts

130 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Monty Python said:
It may be irrelevant now - I've fond another with 17 miles on it, higher spec and three grand cheaper. Test drive booked for Friday :-)
Sounds very promising and about what my dad paid for his new 440i GC from Sytners a month ago. Similar scenario - estoril/black, specced up and pre-reg. smile

Lochaber

101 posts

133 months

Wednesday 7th December 2016
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Monty Python said:
It may be irrelevant now - I've fond another with 17 miles on it, higher spec and three grand cheaper. Test drive booked for Friday :-)
Can you give an update on how the test drive went, i am seriously tempted by one of these.I have a 335i at the moment and i am not getting a chance because of work to get a test drive in this new engine. Has anyone else own/test driven these yet ?

Monty Python

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Saturday 10th December 2016
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Lochaber said:
Can you give an update on how the test drive went, i am seriously tempted by one of these.I have a 335i at the moment and i am not getting a chance because of work to get a test drive in this new engine. Has anyone else own/test driven these yet ?
Well I had a look at the Estoril Blue car today and two things struck me - first, it's overprices and second, it was like sitting in a tomb - black everywhere, heavily tinted back windows - even with the sunroof open it was terrible. May go and look at the silver car in the week but I'd prefer professional nav which it doesn't have.

Smuler

2,286 posts

139 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Monty Python said:
Well I had a look at the Estoril Blue car today and two things struck me - first, it's overprices and second, it was like sitting in a tomb - black everywhere, heavily tinted back windows - even with the sunroof open it was terrible. May go and look at the silver car in the week but I'd prefer professional nav which it doesn't have.
Yes, my loaner a 320d touring had black interior and privacy glass.
A tomb is a great way of describing it. A big no for me. I thought sunroof would mitigate it, but no guess not.

I had pro nav on my 335i E92 and I was much happier with that size screen. Does that mean the silver one has a small screen ??


Monty Python

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Saturday 10th December 2016
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Smuler said:
Yes, my loaner a 320d touring had black interior and privacy glass.
A tomb is a great way of describing it. A big no for me. I thought sunroof would mitigate it, but no guess not.

I had pro nav on my 335i E92 and I was much happier with that size screen. Does that mean the silver one has a small screen ??
Business nav has a small 6" screen and lacks the split screen on the pro nav. I've got pro nav on my E92 and find the split very useful. I guess I'll just have to wait a bit longer or be less picky.

Anyone tell me what the normal "hi-fi" is like? I'd like the HK system but it seems that getting pro nav and HK together is tricky.

Smuler

2,286 posts

139 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Nothing special assuming that's what the loaners had.
My E92 had BMW Individual , a £1400 option in 2009

Wasted on me as I rarely played music but it did sound like the band was sitting with me !

Smuler

2,286 posts

139 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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Monty Python said:
Smuler said:
Yes, my loaner a 320d touring had black interior and privacy glass.
A tomb is a great way of describing it. A big no for me. I thought sunroof would mitigate it, but no guess not.

I had pro nav on my 335i E92 and I was much happier with that size screen. Does that mean the silver one has a small screen ??
Business nav has a small 6" screen and lacks the split screen on the pro nav. I've got pro nav on my E92 and find the split very useful. I guess I'll just have to wait a bit longer or be less picky.

Anyone tell me what the normal "hi-fi" is like? I'd like the HK system but it seems that getting pro nav and HK together is tricky.
This has Pro Nav and HK. I'm biased as it's my fave colour combo. It's red interior so even with the privacy glass it shouldn't be too tomb like, Has a sunroof to help too.



http://usedcars.bmw.co.uk/3-Series/3.0-340i-M-Spor...

Mike335i

5,004 posts

102 months

Saturday 10th December 2016
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That is such a nice 3 series, such a shame it's and auto, otherwise that might be my perfect real world car.

Lochaber

101 posts

133 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Monty Python said:
Well I had a look at the Estoril Blue car today and two things struck me - first, it's overprices and second, it was like sitting in a tomb - black everywhere, heavily tinted back windows - even with the sunroof open it was terrible. May go and look at the silver car in the week but I'd prefer professional nav which it doesn't have.
But what was the engine like ? To me sat nav etc are just extras that are not really that important. I live in the highlands so it more what the car drives like that I am interested in.

MG7

101 posts

193 months

Tuesday 13th December 2016
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Monty Python said:
It may be irrelevant now - I've fond another with 17 miles on it, higher spec and three grand cheaper. Test drive booked for Friday :-)
Did you actually enquire on the first car? Most dealers will advertise pre-registered cars at 101 miles when they have done only delivery mileage.