BMW Touring - which one?

BMW Touring - which one?

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milburn7191

Original Poster:

42 posts

90 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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Hey guys

So unfortunately my pride and joy has been written off (cue the tears and violins), which leaves me with the predicament as to what to replace it with...?
My previous was a BMW e46 330d saloon with the manual gearbox and some optional extras including a nice remap. I loved it; plenty of power and ridiculous amounts of torque, I also averaged 40mpg even with my heavy right foot.
My only gripe with the saloon was the practicality of the bootspace, which is what has lead me to the e46 330d touring. I actually prefer the aesthetic of the touring over the saloon!
...but then as I was browsing the usually car sale websites I dropped on a few e39 530d sales.

I am struggling to decide between an e46 touring and an e39 touring...the 3.0 diesel with manual box is pretty much settled in my head, but reviews have said that the e39 is about 15% less efficient, so I should only expect 34mpg rather than 40?!

am I any more likely to have a major engine/turbo/injector failure with the 5 as I am with the 3?

Cheers chaps smile

helix402

7,885 posts

183 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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The 5 is no more likely to suffer the problems you list. The suspension set up is more complex though and there is more to wear out +more weight to wear it out.

milburn7191

Original Poster:

42 posts

90 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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Thanks Helix

louiebaby

10,651 posts

192 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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The 5er has carpeted door pockets. I don't think the 3er does.

No more evidence required.

milburn7191

Original Poster:

42 posts

90 months

Friday 3rd February 2017
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louiebaby said:
The 5er has carpeted door pockets. I don't think the 3er does.

No more evidence required.
laughlaughlaugh

pits

6,429 posts

191 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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imho the 3 doesn't do it for me, comparing my 39 530i to my mates 330i
Both Tourers, his is manual mine auto, his is a tiny bit faster in a sprint
interior is cramped on the 3
boot is small on the 3
the boot isn't flat load on the 3, it is a drop in
button layout in the 3 just isn't that good, everything is sort of in everything else's way
doesn't have self level rear suspension

39 does have it's cons against the the 46 though
46 is cheaper to buy in general
46 has less tech to go wrong,
rear airbags can deflate after time, not a hard job to do, just bags are £100 each or so
rear bushes are prone to creaking and a bit of a knob to change
They're heavier on fuel to be fair, but they're a heavier car


For me it's all about load space and comfort, the 39 does it much better than the 46.

numtumfutunch

4,737 posts

139 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Im staggered that you actually had a manual 330d

Our family shed back when they were current was an E46 330d wagon which I'd planned on being manual however found it utterly impossible to test drive in the whole of the South East as all dealer demo 330d's were autos (saloon and Touring)

After reluctantly test driving an auto we were converted (sorry for the pun) and bought our own straight away
Neither of us had driven an automatic before amazingly, the missus didnt trust them and as a petrol/diesel head I had my dignity smile

Just about every dealer we spoke to said they'd never sold a manual 330d
You may have trouble finding a replacement but the auto cars are worthy of a test drive

Cheers


Sim89

1,573 posts

208 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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I have an E46 330d manual saloon. I specifically waited long enough to find a well specified 6 speed manual, the 5 speed automatic is not a great box from a performance or reliability point of view. Economy is higher with the manual, however I do concede it is hard work in heavy traffic and the gear changes come quick and often, as is the nature of the power delivery. However it has been utterly reliable and is capable of handling higher torque levels at lower rpm's concerning maps.

I was much in the same position as the OP, I had an E46 Saloon previous and found the boot space and general lack of practicality occasionally restraining. Waited a long time looking for a good manual E46 330d touring...like hens teeth, so settled with the saloon. Great to drive once a long list of jobs have been completed (polybushes, replacement springs, new calipers, droplinks, adjustable camber arms, all new ball-joints and front wing replacements). As with all 'older' BMW's, never expected a trouble / maintenance free time.

milburn7191

Original Poster:

42 posts

90 months

Saturday 11th February 2017
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Well I found a lovely e39 530d for sale near me, I managed to barter the price down to £1900 so it was an absolute steal.
It is an auto rather than a manual but hopefully that will lighten my right foot and stop me purposefully going everywhere sideways...maybe

milburn7191

Original Poster:

42 posts

90 months

Saturday 11th February 2017
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...thanks for the comments

And in case my opinion is worth anything i looked at some e60s aswell and personally I cannot say that they are worth 3 times the price

louiebaby

10,651 posts

192 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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milburn7191 said:
Well I found a lovely e39 530d for sale near me, I managed to barter the price down to £1900 so it was an absolute steal.

milburn7191

Original Poster:

42 posts

90 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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louiebaby said:
milburn7191 said:
Well I found a lovely e39 530d for sale near me, I managed to barter the price down to £1900 so it was an absolute steal.
My bad

AlwynMike

509 posts

88 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Interesting take on a Touring :-)

louiebaby

10,651 posts

192 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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I hope you get on well with it. Mine is in for an Inspection II today. I'm kind of stting it...

milburn7191

Original Poster:

42 posts

90 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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it was great, loved it...lasted 6 weeks until the gearbox failed

so now I am breaking it for parts, so upsetting

NiceCupOfTea

25,295 posts

252 months

Saturday 27th May 2017
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Bad luck. I love an e39 but the autoboxes terrify me.

pits

6,429 posts

191 months

Sunday 28th May 2017
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milburn7191 said:
it was great, loved it...lasted 6 weeks until the gearbox failed

so now I am breaking it for parts, so upsetting
Good luck, stuff isn't shifting at the moment, my most recent breaker I've sold the wing mirror off it frown

CooperS

4,508 posts

220 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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milburn7191 said:
it was great, loved it...lasted 6 weeks until the gearbox failed

so now I am breaking it for parts, so upsetting
So you've wrote off the last car and now you've munched a gearbox!! Poor cars......

Mr Tidy

22,476 posts

128 months

Monday 29th May 2017
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Good luck OP!

34mpg from a 530d sounds pretty poor - especially if you open the windows and get the tractor soundtrack! laugh

My 325ti is showing 34.8 mpg - maybe a 325/330i Touring would work?

mmm-five

11,264 posts

285 months

Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Mr Tidy said:
Good luck OP!

34mpg from a 530d sounds pretty poor - especially if you open the windows and get the tractor soundtrack! laugh

My 325ti is showing 34.8 mpg - maybe a 325/330i Touring would work?
My Z4MC got 34mpg on a steady run to the 'Ring...once!