04 corolla for shedy run around- oil use issues?

04 corolla for shedy run around- oil use issues?

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steveo3002

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10,525 posts

174 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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spotted a nice clean and looked after 2004 1600 petrol corolla , looks like it would do use for a run around but then spotted reviews mention some have massive oil useage issues

is that so ? effects all models or no?

beko1987

1,636 posts

134 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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No idea about Toyota but SWMBO's old 1.6 vauxhall used oil, 1.2l/1000 miles was printed in the handbook.

You get used to it! Oil light comes on, top up at the next opportunity! I used to let it do it 6 or 7 times then change the oil and filter! Voila, self timing 6/7000 mile oil changes (she did short, stupid journeys so I changed it more frequently than my car)

She now has a 1.8 Zafira, and guess what it does... (it is dribbling it down the front of the rocker cover though, but I imagine it'll no oil too, ecotec quirk I think...)

Whereas my ancient 1.9TD citroens, not a drop used ever! No idea what my current 2.2dci is like though, not even found the dipstick yet

youngsod

268 posts

182 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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I've had a 56 plate 1.6 Corolla for nearly 7 years now. It did briefly develop an oil leak about 3-4 years ago but fixed itself after 2 weeks. Apart from that minor blemish it's not used a drop of oil.

Liggle

281 posts

101 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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If its anything like the 1zzfe 1.8 engines oil consumption was rectified in the 2003/2004 onward models

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39,885 posts

196 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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steveo3002 said:
spotted a nice clean and looked after 2004 1600 petrol corolla , looks like it would do use for a run around but then spotted reviews mention some have massive oil useage issues

is that so ? effects all models or no?
It's not massive (IMHO). From what I recall the VVTi engines needed about 1 litre every month / 1000 miles (worse if you were doing long high speed motorway runs, better if you were just pottering round town).

However they're not as reliable as they used to be. The fuse for the rear windscreen heater on my wife's Corolla failed after only 3 years. Another major issue on most of these is the window lock switch, which sticks a bit mad

steveo3002

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10,525 posts

174 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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is it that they use oil and will carry on doing so for a decent milage , id not mind regular top ups as long as its not bletching out blue smoke and causing mot problems

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39,885 posts

196 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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steveo3002 said:
is it that they use oil and will carry on doing so for a decent milage , id not mind regular top ups as long as its not bletching out blue smoke and causing mot problems
Definitely no belching. Vaguely I seem to recall burn marks around the exhaust and a rich smell of unburnt petrol on startup (although that might have been something else) biggrin.

She only ran it to 120k though so I couldn't say beyond that

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Definitely no belching. Vaguely I seem to recall burn marks around the exhaust and a rich smell of unburnt petrol on startup (although that might have been something else) biggrin.

She only ran it to 120k though so I couldn't say beyond that
I know of one engine failure and one needing a rebuild due to the oil burning issue


So major problems do happen, but they're probably not as common as the internet makes out

daemon

35,821 posts

197 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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beko1987 said:
Oil light comes on, top up at the next opportunity!
You do know they're not "oil level low" lights, they're "oil pressure low" lights???

So you're letting it run that low that it cant keep all the parts lubricated.

Far more sensible to get in to the regime of checking and topping up once a week.


daemon

35,821 posts

197 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
Countdown said:
Definitely no belching. Vaguely I seem to recall burn marks around the exhaust and a rich smell of unburnt petrol on startup (although that might have been something else) biggrin.

She only ran it to 120k though so I couldn't say beyond that
I know of one engine failure and one needing a rebuild due to the oil burning issue


So major problems do happen, but they're probably not as common as the internet makes out
I would suggest both of those engines got to that point not due to oil usage but due to lack of oil...

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39,885 posts

196 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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daemon said:
I would suggest both of those engines got to that point not due to oil usage but due to lack of oil...
Design issue with early 1.6 and 1.8 VVTi engines. Relatively common between 1998-2004. Toyota was replacing engine blocks and extending warranties for a while.

beko1987

1,636 posts

134 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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daemon said:
beko1987 said:
Oil light comes on, top up at the next opportunity!
You do know they're not "oil level low" lights, they're "oil pressure low" lights???

So you're letting it run that low that it cant keep all the parts lubricated.

Far more sensible to get in to the regime of checking and topping up once a week.
That is a very sensible regime you are correct, but one I didn't do...

The light will come on way before the level is so critically low it'll do damage. Even forgetting for a day and swmbo doing a 7 mile round trip to work the oil was showing on the dipstick.

But I do agree, I should get into the habit of weekly checks.

daemon

35,821 posts

197 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Countdown said:
daemon said:
I would suggest both of those engines got to that point not due to oil usage but due to lack of oil...
Design issue with early 1.6 and 1.8 VVTi engines. Relatively common between 1998-2004. Toyota was replacing engine blocks and extending warranties for a while.
No doubt, but ultimately burning oil wont generally kill an engine - running it without enough oil will.


daemon

35,821 posts

197 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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beko1987 said:
daemon said:
beko1987 said:
Oil light comes on, top up at the next opportunity!
You do know they're not "oil level low" lights, they're "oil pressure low" lights???

So you're letting it run that low that it cant keep all the parts lubricated.

Far more sensible to get in to the regime of checking and topping up once a week.
That is a very sensible regime you are correct, but one I didn't do...

The light will come on way before the level is so critically low it'll do damage. Even forgetting for a day and swmbo doing a 7 mile round trip to work the oil was showing on the dipstick.

But I do agree, I should get into the habit of weekly checks.
True and fair enough.


nobrakes

2,976 posts

198 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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It's a nice shed. If all you need is a bit more oil to keep it running, it's a bargain!