Newbie wants to say hi.. with pics of car... bmw 335d

Newbie wants to say hi.. with pics of car... bmw 335d

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Cyclone1

2,600 posts

245 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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JeffC said:
good choice of car smile

Ive seen so many variations on rolling roads over the years I dont believe any figures they quote Ive seen a 30bhp difference between two rolling roads on my Busa engined westy both rollers using coast down to calculate. As long as goes well thats all that matters, I havent had my remapped 335d checked yet but expect it to be high as it runs a stage 3 map, Its so much livelier than standard its unreal !

as a comaprison heres a graph from a twin turbo d bmw,mapped by the same guy that did my car the top figures in red are prior to mapping and the lower figures after it was done , this car also had a strong setting installed, it gained 54bhp and 84lbs ft torque , I dont know how accurate the figures are on that rolling road but the gain should be accurate as it was the same rolling road and same car/ tyre pressures etc



Hi Jeff,

I agree with what you are saying about rolling roads, the results differ so much that it's hard to guage the difference between similar vehicles. However, the figures for this 535D are closer to the figures I have been seeing on the RR's I've been at, most noticeably the at the wheels figures.

Jules.

Cyclone1

2,600 posts

245 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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dxb335d said:
You run a low 12 second pass at 100 mph? seems a slow trap speed for such an impressive time. E60 500bhp M5's run low 12's but at over 116mph.

Do you have your time slip still?

So there is chance yet then, that my re-mapped one WILL break into the twelves, if yours can run na low 12, along with m5's m6's etc, albeit at a lower trap speed.
Did I say that I ran this over the 1/4 mile? I was merely relating to your 1/4 mile pass of 13.9@102mph to allow comparison against some figures that were recorded when remapping the car before and after it entered Fighting Torque, at that time we recorded consistent low 12s 0-100mph times (not 1/4 mile), we even clocked an 11.9redface with one of the maps. Over the 1/4 I'd guess it would run late 12s at 110mph. I'll be down at Santa Pod over the next couple of months so we'll see, if it gets to within a second of my old car that used to run there then I'll be happy.

Jules.

dxb335d

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2,905 posts

194 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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Jules, i guestimating my does 0-100 in late 12's low 13's stock if i did a 13.9@102, and believe it coudl go quicker.

Im at the pod in feb, would love to see your beast in action. What state of tune is yours? 0-100 in 11.9 is awesome, and thats the performance im after.

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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dxb335d said:
i everyone smile


The most convincing being chippeduk.


Edited by dxb335d on Tuesday 15th January 16:01
Whoa easy there buddy.

He isn't banned off 2 different BMW forums for nothing.

Does anyone remember the porsche turbo thread?

Edited by jamoor on Wednesday 16th January 19:28

Cyclone1

2,600 posts

245 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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jamoor said:
dxb335d said:
i everyone smile


The most convincing being chippeduk.


Edited by dxb335d on Tuesday 15th January 16:01
Whoa easy there buddy.

He isn't banned off 2 different BMW forums for nothing.

Does anyone remember the porsche turbo thread?

Edited by jamoor on Wednesday 16th January 19:28
Hmmm forgot to mention this also. Drop me an email and I'll tell you more.

Jules.

Cyclone1

2,600 posts

245 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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dxb335d said:
Jules, i guestimating my does 0-100 in late 12's low 13's stock if i did a 13.9@102, and believe it coudl go quicker.

Im at the pod in feb, would love to see your beast in action. What state of tune is yours? 0-100 in 11.9 is awesome, and thats the performance im after.
Not sure what the exact state of tune is hence me asking the questions about the results from your RR day. It's so hard to compare results, I believe that it's approx 340-350bhp and given the comparisons (on the road) so far then I'd have to agree. Let's see what it does at the Pod, if it's high 12s then I'll be impressed.

Jules.

edb49

1,652 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th January 2008
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dxb335d said:
Jules, i guestimating my does 0-100 in late 12's low 13's stock if i did a 13.9@102, and believe it coudl go quicker.
Huh? Best part of a second to get from 100mph to 102mph?

Vixpy1

42,620 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Strange, I've never had a 335d or 535d make more than 230 at the wheels stock. However there does'nt seem anything obviously wrong with that dyno graph. (apart from the details which have been filled in afterwards using a graphics program)

Mapped ones should see 270 to 280 at the wheels, the Dastek dyno sheet figs are what i would expect to see, amazing considering its a Dashit dyno hehe


Broccers

3,236 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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This 1/4 talk makes me laugh a lot, as does 0 - 100.

We went to York last year to support a mate in pro street ( I think - its a big red hillman avenger ) so entered a couple of competitions myself.

Against his drag car which ran 10s I did 13.6 in my stock m Coupe and I was mullered.

Later that day a geezer with a e30 325 with the same E36 evo motor dropped in challenged me to a race (I think hsi was modded and had a quick diff on the back). And being a good sport I accepted so we sorted it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ojn7VkM7ScI

Fast forward to 1 min 20.

The other car ran a faster quarter than mine although I won the race .... and this is the point. 0.5 seconds is sod all, as is 1 sec if your reactions are shit.

Enjoy your 335d they are a handsome looking motor for sure.

Cyclone1

2,600 posts

245 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Hi Broccers,

Hope you're well, last time I chatted to you was a while back on Z3MCoupe.org (posted as Julesm), good to see that the ZMC is still going strong and seem to remember it making decent BHP at the Noble RR day in Chesterfield a couple of years ago or so.......I joined you all with my Cerb 4.5.

Reactions do not really matter at Santa Pod as the timing doesn't start until the beam is broken. Therefore you can sit on the start line and let the other car go and get a head start, but you can still "win" the race by posting a faster time, even though you cross the line after the other car has finished. With two cars driven similarly (inc decent launch) then 1/2 sec is a fair gap on the 1/4 mile, 1 sec will be a good 10 car lengths or so. But I understand what you are saying if for example you fluff the launch or a gear change, however in a 335D this just isn't going to happen as the car is auto and it launches superbly well, look here -

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v117/Cyclone04/?...

Jules.

Jules.

Broccers

3,236 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Hi Jules,

Yes fine ta, good to see you still around.

My reference to racing was because it was actually a competition - we were in several different classes that day. Obviously in that situation its the person who crosses the finish line first after the lights go to green.

All good fun.


dxb335d

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2,905 posts

194 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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edb49 said:
dxb335d said:
Jules, i guestimating my does 0-100 in late 12's low 13's stock if i did a 13.9@102, and believe it coudl go quicker.
Huh? Best part of a second to get from 100mph to 102mph?
Yes mate, cars of this sort of power/speed will take that sort of time. it aint going to take a few tenths is it? i had to change gear also.


Vixpy1 said:
Strange, I've never had a 335d or 535d make more than 230 at the wheels stock. However there does'nt seem anything obviously wrong with that dyno graph. (apart from the details which have been filled in afterwards using a graphics program)

Mapped ones should see 270 to 280 at the wheels, the Dastek dyno sheet figs are what i would expect to see, amazing considering its a Dashit dyno hehe
Yes i can also post up the wheel power graph if you wish? will be edited also to protect my personal information.

eowen

16,699 posts

264 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Interesting thread!

I've just bought a 12 month old 335d, and it goes like the clappers! I'm also averaging 38mpg after 1,000 miles!

http://gallery.seloc.org/albums/userpics/30391/IMG...

http://gallery.seloc.org/albums/userpics/30391/IMG...



Edited by eowen on Thursday 17th January 15:59


Edited by eowen on Thursday 17th January 16:02

JeffC

1,685 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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eowen said:
Interesting thread!

I've just bought a 12 month old 335d, and it goes like the clappers! I'm also averaging 38mpg after 1,000 miles!

http://gallery.seloc.org/albums/userpics/30391/IMG...

http://gallery.seloc.org/albums/userpics/30391/IMG...



Edited by eowen on Thursday 17th January 15:59


Edited by eowen on Thursday 17th January 16:02
I like the dark interior inlay in your car what is it ?

eowen

16,699 posts

264 months

Thursday 17th January 2008
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Thanks. Standard I thought. High gloss or something. Has a slight metalic finish to it if you look carefully.

caneswell

44 posts

222 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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dxb335d said:
I want to Re-map and at Autsport international was speaking to several diesel tuners. The most convincing being chippeduk.
I'd do more research if I were you. ChippedUK has a terrible reputation on every car forum i've been on and was then banned from many of them.

No denying he can talk a good tuning, and make his dyno produce whatever graph you want, but it's all rubbish.

Also a friend of mine has had to spend £1200 to fix his 320d after a ChippedUK remap. Could be a coincidence.......

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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caneswell said:
dxb335d said:
I want to Re-map and at Autsport international was speaking to several diesel tuners. The most convincing being chippeduk.
I'd do more research if I were you. ChippedUK has a terrible reputation on every car forum i've been on and was then banned from many of them.

No denying he can talk a good tuning, and make his dyno produce whatever graph you want, but it's all rubbish.

Also a friend of mine has had to spend £1200 to fix his 320d after a ChippedUK remap. Could be a coincidence.......
Crikey, what happened to it?

caneswell

44 posts

222 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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The fuel inectors and fuel pump had to be replaced. Very expensive business on a modern turbo diesel.

Like I said it could easily be a coincidence, and is in no way definately his fault. It's his awful reputation that I would avoid.

There's been an interesting thread on evo forum about it recently....

davidd

6,441 posts

283 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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caneswell said:
The fuel inectors and fuel pump had to be replaced. Very expensive business on a modern turbo diesel.

Like I said it could easily be a coincidence, and is in no way definately his fault. It's his awful reputation that I would avoid.

There's been an interesting thread on evo forum about it recently....
Can you point me at the thread please? I'd like to have a read and searching on chippeduk gave no result.

Ta

D