335d tuning, what options..?

[Neil.D]

tribal jitter said:

Can't wait till your turbo's go pop, as they will, you won't be so quick to big it all up on everyone else's threads all over the net..

LOL...

[Bernie-the-bolt]

tribal jitter said:

Can't wait till your turbo's go pop, as they will, you won't be so quick to big it all up on everyone else's threads all over the net..

Boring, boring, boring

Evidence please?

[roofer]

tribal jitter said:

Can't wait till your turbo's go pop, as they will, you won't be so quick to big it all up on everyone else's threads all over the net..

Arse with ears

Mine is unmapped, and performance is fine. Some will always want to extract that last 10th from their car, i was the same when younger. Does that make them less of an enthusiast? Or is it the clicky squad just agreeing with their bumchums?

The kid wants to make his car faster, good luck to him, he then goes and rips the st out of it on the track, how many arsewipe critics do the same?

He's young, give the kid a break FFS, or get a fking life.

[pgilc1]

Ranger 6 said:

pgilc1 said:

335d coupe
335d touring
335d saloon
535d saloon
535d touring
635d
x3 3.0sdus X3 owners have to make sure we're fairly represented
x5 35d
x6 35d

Should be in excess of 500 units per year would it not?

I would guess so too.

A quick scout of the 'trader shows over 250 cars at less than a year old. You can't suggest that half those sold in the last year are now for sale?

+1

Sorry, i forgot the x3 - new i was missing one.

[pgilc1]

tribal jitter said:

Can't wait till your turbo's go pop, as they will, you won't be so quick to big it all up on everyone else's threads all over the net..

What a downright nasty thing to say?

Is it because its a 335d or do you have that opinion of all tuned cars?

[Ranger 6]

pgilc1 said:

....forgot the x3 - knew i was missing one.

Do I mention it goes faster with M badges too?

[pgilc1]

Ranger 6 said:

pgilc1 said:

....forgot the x3 - knew i was missing one.

Do I mention it goes faster with M badges too?

LOL

What would that make it, an mx3? did mazda not make one of those??

[Ranger 6]

pgilc1 said:

Ranger 6 said:

Do I mention it goes faster with M badges too?

LOL

What would that make it, an mx3? did mazda not make one of those??

[Flat6]

Welshbeef said:

pgilc1 said:

Welshbeef said:

Well from PH website x35d owners & BMW Land owners website it seems that most have been.


Do we have total number of UK sold x35d cars? I'd guess were talking about a sub 500units a year car

335d coupe
335d touring
335d saloon
535d saloon
535d touring
635d
x5 35d
x6 35d

Should be in excess of 500 units per year would it not?

Well this is all guess work - if we had BMW data units of each model sold p.a. then we could have an idea or just simply x% of one engine vs another and total engines sold.

>20000 X35d engines planned for 2009 production..

[Welshbeef]

Pretty high!
I guess they are planning everyone on the 545i, 550i, etc to move over to it.

One thing though - why no 735d? Or are they going to release a 740d? Or isnt the 7 seen as needing an x35d? Guessing that the 730d represents 90% of sales it seems likely.

[Oli.]

tribal jitter said:

Can't wait till your turbo's go pop, as they will, you won't be so quick to big it all up on everyone else's threads all over the net..

What a knob!!! Nice thing to say!!

[dxb335d]

bennno said:

I assume the 335d is sluggish in standard tune?

(given everybody has either had it mapped or is planning to do so)

Bennno

No not at all, the car is perfect stock, just responds to a re-map so well.

[sniff diesel]

Carl, how many miles has yours done now? How many since the re-map? Do you increase the servicing frequency since the re-map?

Just interested how it's coping.

[Welshbeef]

The biggest worry to me about remapping is this - your modifying a £38k car + options... if you remap it BMW warranty is null & void.
A new 335d engine is how much? £8-10k?

Also some people who have modified their cars have had turbo's gearboxes fail.

The other thing is the gearbox max input torque rating is below what the remappers up the torque to... now clearly some will say "Oh there is much more in it than that."... well if so why do the gearbox makers make higher torque input boxes... why not just settle with this? Clearly life of the parts is reduced - to what extent I do not know but its more stress on the engine there is no question about that.

[pgilc1]

Welshbeef said:

The biggest worry to me about remapping is this - your modifying a £38k car + options... if you remap it BMW warranty is null & void.
A new 335d engine is how much? £8-10k?

Also some people who have modified their cars have had turbo's gearboxes fail.

The other thing is the gearbox max input torque rating is below what the remappers up the torque to... now clearly some will say "Oh there is much more in it than that."... well if so why do the gearbox makers make higher torque input boxes... why not just settle with this? Clearly life of the parts is reduced - to what extent I do not know but its more stress on the engine there is no question about that.

Only IF you have turbo / box / severe engine failure *might* they try to investigate the ECU mapping. Also dont forget DMS commit to covering any part BMW dont cover should you have it mapped by them.

Also, have you any evidence of 535d / 335d turbo / box failure that is directly attributable to remapping?

If you drive any car flat out all the time, wear on the parts will be greater. How often in a remapped car are you actually using the power beyond which the car originally had? Maybe 5% of the time? I dont think its a big issue, providing you get it done by one of the big players.

[Welshbeef]

pgilc1 said:

Welshbeef said:

The biggest worry to me about remapping is this - your modifying a £38k car + options... if you remap it BMW warranty is null & void.
A new 335d engine is how much? £8-10k?

Also some people who have modified their cars have had turbo's gearboxes fail.

The other thing is the gearbox max input torque rating is below what the remappers up the torque to... now clearly some will say "Oh there is much more in it than that."... well if so why do the gearbox makers make higher torque input boxes... why not just settle with this? Clearly life of the parts is reduced - to what extent I do not know but its more stress on the engine there is no question about that.

Only IF you have turbo / box / severe engine failure *might* they try to investigate the ECU mapping. Also dont forget DMS commit to covering any part BMW dont cover should you have it mapped by them.

Also, have you any evidence of 535d / 335d turbo / box failure that is directly attributable to remapping?

If you drive any car flat out all the time, wear on the parts will be greater. How often in a remapped car are you actually using the power beyond which the car originally had? Maybe 5% of the time? I dont think its a big issue, providing you get it done by one of the big players.

The only thing with DMS is that their warranty only lasts as long as the std BMW warranty. If you get a DMS upgrade on a 4year old car there is no warranty.

In VAG's 1.9 TDI's if your in 6th gear at 1,500rpm and then go WOT(wide open throttle) you will get clutch slip. Thats not full revs just fully open throttle up to maybe 2,500rpm, you will get clutch slip. So it forces you to drive round it and change down or feed in the torque.

I have no idea on the number of parts which have failed but would assume those who have had it are keeping quiet incase their warranty claim may not payout.

[sniff diesel]

Welshbeef said:

A new 335d engine is how much? £8-10k?

Say the engine in your 4/5 year old 80/100k mile car goes, are you seriously going to replace it with a brand new engine or just replace the failed parts? Or just get a second hand engine?

I know this is the TT petrol but the diesel's fetch similar money in the salvage trade:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

£2k for an engine, no more than £1k for a specialist to fit it including a service.

[dxb335d]

sniff diesel said:

Carl, how many miles has yours done now? How many since the re-map? Do you increase the servicing frequency since the re-map?

Just interested how it's coping.

Plenty o' miles mate. Done 12k+ on the map also. Well various maps. Car is going well.

[pgilc1]

Welshbeef said:

pgilc1 said:

Welshbeef said:

The biggest worry to me about remapping is this - your modifying a £38k car + options... if you remap it BMW warranty is null & void.
A new 335d engine is how much? £8-10k?

Also some people who have modified their cars have had turbo's gearboxes fail.

The other thing is the gearbox max input torque rating is below what the remappers up the torque to... now clearly some will say "Oh there is much more in it than that."... well if so why do the gearbox makers make higher torque input boxes... why not just settle with this? Clearly life of the parts is reduced - to what extent I do not know but its more stress on the engine there is no question about that.

Only IF you have turbo / box / severe engine failure *might* they try to investigate the ECU mapping. Also dont forget DMS commit to covering any part BMW dont cover should you have it mapped by them.

Also, have you any evidence of 535d / 335d turbo / box failure that is directly attributable to remapping?

If you drive any car flat out all the time, wear on the parts will be greater. How often in a remapped car are you actually using the power beyond which the car originally had? Maybe 5% of the time? I dont think its a big issue, providing you get it done by one of the big players.

The only thing with DMS is that their warranty only lasts as long as the std BMW warranty. If you get a DMS upgrade on a 4year old car there is no warranty.

In VAG's 1.9 TDI's if your in 6th gear at 1,500rpm and then go WOT(wide open throttle) you will get clutch slip. Thats not full revs just fully open throttle up to maybe 2,500rpm, you will get clutch slip. So it forces you to drive round it and change down or feed in the torque.

I have no idea on the number of parts which have failed but would assume those who have had it are keeping quiet incase their warranty claim may not payout.

Well, TBH, if i took that approach to life i probably wouldnt get out of bed in the mornings. As it happens i havent this one remapped, but i had the last one done at 900 miles and no ill effects.

Like all tuning of cars (and this is still pistonheads i'm on - right?) you pays your money, you makes your choice. Personally, as long as you dont tick the box for 'balls out mental map' when you're getting it done, you'll be just fine - BUT, if you cant stand the heat...

[sniff diesel]

dxb335d said:

sniff diesel said:

Carl, how many miles has yours done now? How many since the re-map? Do you increase the servicing frequency since the re-map?

Just interested how it's coping.

Plenty o' miles mate. Done 12k+ on the map also. Well various maps. Car is going well.

How many miles is it on now then?

I put a tuning box on my 325tds once I'd fitted new injectors, was on 132k then now approaching 145k with no problems since, just a bit more black smoke when flooring it.