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ATM said:
Read my post again. I noticed my car stopped self centering when I switched back to run flats. Steering is very numb around the centre. Car is awful. I'm currently deciding if I should go with not run flat 19 tyres or switch to 18 inch wheels with not run flats.
That's very very strange. Why would tyres so change the whole behaviour of the steering?If this is correct, I was wrong about my friend's 530d not self-centering, considering that wasn't on run-flats.
Switching between RFTS and not RFTS on my car had no effect on centring but it does now feed back on low frequency undulations in the road. With RFTS the steering was steady, but with non RFTS if I go over undulating/uneven road, the steering turns/wobbles back and forth. I'm guessing its down to the programming of the electric steering, expecting run flats and their characteristics... which I've now changed.
Its a minor thing I can live with for the fact the car is now super liveable with...
Its a minor thing I can live with for the fact the car is now super liveable with...
RoverP6B said:
ATM said:
Read my post again. I noticed my car stopped self centering when I switched back to run flats. Steering is very numb around the centre. Car is awful. I'm currently deciding if I should go with not run flat 19 tyres or switch to 18 inch wheels with not run flats.
That's very very strange. Why would tyres so change the whole behaviour of the steering?If this is correct, I was wrong about my friend's 530d not self-centering, considering that wasn't on run-flats.
RoverP6B said:
ATM said:
Read my post again. I noticed my car stopped self centering when I switched back to run flats. Steering is very numb around the centre. Car is awful. I'm currently deciding if I should go with not run flat 19 tyres or switch to 18 inch wheels with not run flats.
That's very very strange. Why would tyres so change the whole behaviour of the steering?If this is correct, I was wrong about my friend's 530d not self-centering, considering that wasn't on run-flats.
Tyres is steering.
I'm sorry but I can't take RoverP6B's criticisms on BMW seriously after the 'tell me I'm wrong' article on the F10 M5.
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Amirhussain said:
I'm sorry but I can't take RoverP6B's criticisms on BMW seriously after the 'tell me I'm wrong' article on the F10 M5.
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
He's a clueless bore, that seems to dislike BMW's yet hangs around the BMW forum like a dodgy ice cream man at a primary school fete.Page 15 onwards
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Urban Sports said:
He's a clueless bore, that seems to dislike BMW's yet hangs around the BMW forum like a dodgy ice cream man at a primary school fete.
Dislike BMWs? Oh, that would be why I've owned nothing else for the last nineteen years?I absolute bloody LOVE BMWs - which is WHY I've given the F10/F11 a hard time - because it is so very far removed from what I consider to be the essence of BMW. Now, my E39 is a great deal bigger and half a ton heavier than my E30, it has 50% more cylinders in its engine and it isn't as agile nor as inclined to spin, thanks to the modern multi-link arrangement in place of the E30's semi flailing arm rear end, but I can still feel the E30 DNA when I drive it hard - DNA going back to the original Neue Klasse saloons of the mid 1960s. I'd heard that the E60/61 was a more focussed driver's car than the E39, so I had hoped BMW were continuing to build genuinely sporting saloons and estates - but a month spent in an F11 showed that this is no longer the case. There was no agility whatsoever, it's more the size of an E38 7-series than an E39 5-series and the total absence of steering feel made it impossible to drive with any confidence.
I'm not sure how I feel about that given that S54s are available and tunable, as are M62s and S62s, and I tend to like to keep modifications OEM or at least within the overall character of the car, but I have to admit that the idea of a big angry American V8 in a small BMW does sound like fun.
RoverP6B said:
E65Ross said:
I love the insanity of it but if I recall it's not actually any more powerful than an M3??
Nice project and certainly something different!
If it isn't - the CSB is arguably the easiest and cheapest engine in the world to tune.Nice project and certainly something different!
ATM said:
When you're buying a fun car, insanity wins. I've only ever had one passenger ride in an e46 M3 and it didn't really impress me. That was a few years ago. I also test drove the csl when they were newish but didn't really get it. I believe they like to be revved and I didn't really rev the csl. Fast forward 10 years and I've gone to view this car. The test drive impressed me within 15 seconds and I knew I had to have it. Forget finesse and refinement and think - insanity is a good word. Check out this torque curve. It's got 400 ft lbs at 2750 revs.
Understood - torque is lovely! There's someone here has a Z4M (same engine as E46 M3) with a centrifugal supercharger for 520bhp, forget the torque figure but it was fairly high. Do you know what engine your car started out with?RoverP6B said:
ATM said:
When you're buying a fun car, insanity wins. I've only ever had one passenger ride in an e46 M3 and it didn't really impress me. That was a few years ago. I also test drove the csl when they were newish but didn't really get it. I believe they like to be revved and I didn't really rev the csl. Fast forward 10 years and I've gone to view this car. The test drive impressed me within 15 seconds and I knew I had to have it. Forget finesse and refinement and think - insanity is a good word. Check out this torque curve. It's got 400 ft lbs at 2750 revs.
Understood - torque is lovely! There's someone here has a Z4M (same engine as E46 M3) with a centrifugal supercharger for 520bhp, forget the torque figure but it was fairly high. Do you know what engine your car started out with?You could have an engine with 5200 lb/ft of torque at 10rpm, the end result is 10bhp. It's not going to be very fast.
It would be more accurate to say "it generates 270bhp at 3000rpm, and it revs to 6000rpm". That says a lot more about the performance.
RoverP6B said:
ATM said:
When you're buying a fun car, insanity wins. I've only ever had one passenger ride in an e46 M3 and it didn't really impress me. That was a few years ago. I also test drove the csl when they were newish but didn't really get it. I believe they like to be revved and I didn't really rev the csl. Fast forward 10 years and I've gone to view this car. The test drive impressed me within 15 seconds and I knew I had to have it. Forget finesse and refinement and think - insanity is a good word. Check out this torque curve. It's got 400 ft lbs at 2750 revs.
Understood - torque is lovely! There's someone here has a Z4M (same engine as E46 M3) with a centrifugal supercharger for 520bhp, forget the torque figure but it was fairly high.Gassing Station | BMW General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff