Awful BMW service!

Awful BMW service!

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Billy83

Original Poster:

152 posts

231 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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I own a 2004 registered M3 and called up my dealer today to ask whether i could extend my warranty for another year which i thought would be expiring on march 17th. They then told me that i'd have to call bmw finacial services saying you can no longer buy them from the dealer which i think in itself is pretty rubbish.

Then speaking to the man at BMW fincial services he said they had no record of my having bought the extension last year.
I checked my records and saw that i had payed them in full last january. This is where the problem lies. My factory warranty was due to end on 17th march but what BMW are saying that because i paid them IN ADVANCE they made the extension start on january 18th 2007, meaning that i paid for 2 months of warranty i didn't need and also that now as my car is out of warranty they won't renew it! They also made no effort to remind me about the expiring warranty.

This is embarrassingly bad customer service as far as i'm concerned and i'm seriously thinking about ending my bmw ownership. Aren't they supposed to look after their customer!??

I'm going to write to BMW to make my thoughts known while also taking the issue up with my local dealer but i'm just wondering if anyone else has found them so unbelievably unhelpful when dealing with these overpriced extended warranties?

furious

dxb335d

2,905 posts

196 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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All to common a story at the moment, BMW customer service skills are dire at present. They really need to buck there ideas up. Speak to BMW UK see what they have to say on the matter!

Carlos

belleair302

6,847 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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I feel a letter to BMW Car magazine is needed to wake up the customer services people at BMW UK. So many people now go specialists because these guys know about cars and care, unlike main dealers who just want to grab your cash and run.

< FORZA WEST

1,038 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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I see it every day.Too many chiefs looking at £ signs and forgetting the customer.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Why on earth should BMW care? The dealerships are full of customers stupid enough to buy their cars.

Have a look at the personal lease prices (and the specs of the cars - *entry* level is 328i auto for well under £200/mth) on the BMW US website http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/FinancialSe... - BMW must laugh their heads off everytime someone in the UK buys one.

How about £30K (ok, you need to add VAT, so say £35K) for a new M3 Coupe?
UK price?

dsl2

1,474 posts

202 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Disgusting treatment of a customer who's spent alot of money on a premium product. Being a principled sort, every time a brand treats me badly, I vote with my feet & never daken thier door again, as well as telling everyone who will listen what a shoddy bunch they are.

If enough people have the strength of thier convictions things will change!

Chippers54

63 posts

208 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Billy PM me and I will see if I can help you out. I will need to know a few more details though.

Cheers

dazren

22,612 posts

262 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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How can they issue a warranty before the previous one has expired? That's ridiculous.

Keep us updated. PH may need to do some editorial clarifying how BMW UK's handling of warrantys can affect site members.

Kinky

39,575 posts

270 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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Billy - can you keep us to date on this one please?

K

MitchT

15,883 posts

210 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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dxb335d said:
All to common a story at the moment, BMW customer service skills are dire at present.
In my experience customer service is becoming increasingly alien to many companies these days.

Deva Link said:
Why on earth should BMW care? The dealerships are full of customers stupid enough to buy their cars.
Succinctly put.

dazren said:
How can they issue a warranty before the previous one has expired? That's ridiculous.
Indeed. In my extended warranty days I'd buy an extension a week or two before my current one expired, but the new one would never start until the old one finished, so I'd always have a full year's cover. Either someone screwed-up or they've deliberately built an element of incompetence into their renewal system to fleece a bit of extra cash from customers.

Personally I think BMW's current attitude is indicative of their concern for the wider economy and a dawning realisation that they'd better start grabbing cash wherever they can. A few weeks ago I saw a 1 Series with '£3,000 Cash Back' plastered on the side parked at my local garden centre with a bored looking sales guy from the local $tealer sitting inside. It wasn't so long ago when only the likes of Ford and Vauxhall would resort to such downmarket measures to shift stock.

phelix

4,440 posts

250 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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dsl2 said:
Disgusting treatment of a customer who's spent alot of money on a premium product. Being a principled sort, every time a brand treats me badly, I vote with my feet & never daken thier door again, as well as telling everyone who will listen what a shoddy bunch they are.
At some point you'll be on a push bike!

Edited by phelix on Thursday 28th February 20:18

dxb335d

2,905 posts

196 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Deva Link said:
Why on earth should BMW care? The dealerships are full of customers stupid enough to buy their cars.

Have a look at the personal lease prices (and the specs of the cars - *entry* level is 328i auto for well under £200/mth) on the BMW US website http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/FinancialSe... - BMW must laugh their heads off everytime someone in the UK buys one.

How about £30K (ok, you need to add VAT, so say £35K) for a new M3 Coupe?
UK price?
Its always been that way. Its just us, its most of europe. Some other european countries pay more than we do for their BMW's. But yes we do live in rip-off Britain. Its like the whole of this side of the Atlantic is subsidising the States.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

260 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Didn't even think you could extend it that far in advance.

BMW wrote to me saying my official warrenty was going to expire, and again saying the extended insured warrenty was due to expire.

Sounds like a dealer issue here.

Billy83

Original Poster:

152 posts

231 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Thankfully guys i spoke to the garage this morning and they were extremely helpful and apologetic. Simply put i think its the beaucratic knobheads who work for bmw financial services who are to blame for making me so angry given his slightly mistrusting and patronising tone. The guys at the local garage have recognised that it was an administrative error on their behalf and have offered me a full used car warranty which means i pay no excess for the first year and can extend it like any other warranty next year (when hopefully they'll REMIND me!) Overall, my opinion of the dealer hasn't been too tarnished but the whole episode has definately left a sour taste in my mouth with regard to BMW as a whole!
Why dealers are not allowed to issue extended warranties i'll never know but it just seems like another pointless, money-saving, customer 'ignoring' move to me.

Think i might move to porsche or audi soon...

dsl2

1,474 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Porsche are about the same at best!

MitchT

15,883 posts

210 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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Billy83 said:
Thankfully guys i spoke to the garage this morning and they were extremely helpful and apologetic. Simply put i think its the beaucratic knobheads who work for bmw financial services who are to blame for making me so angry given his slightly mistrusting and patronising tone. The guys at the local garage have recognised that it was an administrative error on their behalf and have offered me a full used car warranty which means i pay no excess for the first year and can extend it like any other warranty next year (when hopefully they'll REMIND me!) Overall, my opinion of the dealer hasn't been too tarnished but the whole episode has definately left a sour taste in my mouth with regard to BMW as a whole!
Why dealers are not allowed to issue extended warranties i'll never know but it just seems like another pointless, money-saving, customer 'ignoring' move to me.
I get the distinct impression that the dealers, the more caring ones at least, are becoming as frustrated with BMW as the customers are.

Billy83 said:
Think i might move to porsche or audi soon...
Porsche maybe, but I can't bring myself to see Audi as an equal to BMW. And that's the problem - In that price-bracket there's no car that compares. It's just the company itself that has ceased to be special. Moth... flame... Stop me before I buy an E92!!!

Jem0911

4,415 posts

202 months

Thursday 28th February 2008
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I moved from Audi to BMW.
Its not great down at the Audi dealership,
Actually its total pants.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Friday 29th February 2008
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Deva Link said:
Have a look at the personal lease prices (and the specs of the cars - *entry* level is 328i auto for well under £200/mth) on the BMW US website http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/FinancialSe... - BMW must laugh their heads off everytime someone in the UK buys one.
Bloody nora. No 4 cylinder or diesels available in the US.

Why don't we get the xi versions (4WD).

Is the 328 our 325 or 330?

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st March 2008
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B17NNS said:
Deva Link said:
Have a look at the personal lease prices (and the specs of the cars - *entry* level is 328i auto for well under £200/mth) on the BMW US website http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/FinancialSe... - BMW must laugh their heads off everytime someone in the UK buys one.
Bloody nora. No 4 cylinder or diesels available in the US.

Why don't we get the xi versions (4WD).

Is the 328 our 325 or 330?
BMW (or MB) wont sell 4cyl in the US.

Their 328 is the 3.0L engine (like the UK 325 and 330). Power wise, it sits between our 325 and 330 (much nearer the 325).

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Saturday 1st March 2008
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anonymous said:
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You probably wouldn't want one there - it's what every Californian Daddy gets his daughter for her 18th birthday.