330i Vs 335i

[abarber]

Yes, though I personally think the 4 cylinder diesels make more sense with a much bigger step in MPG compared to the petrols. With the price of diesel sky rocketing, a 323d based on the 123d engine would be great if they made it.

[Boulder]

Another vote here for the 330i,the joy of revving the thing will compensate for a slight loss in torque.

The diesel is bloody awful in comparison.

[John the Blind]

The flaw with this whole discussion is trying to apply logic to buying a large capacity petrol engined car in the UK.

Logic would suggest a 320d every time. My 335 was in the dealers for a couple of days and the 320d was a great car, being more than adequate for 90% of the time.

I all depends what you do with the last 10% Keeping pace with a Z4M on a dual carragway shoot out. Seeing the face of an Esprit V8 driver after his attempt to drop me on the motorway failed badly. The stupid grin on my face that still appears after 18 months when I see how quick it goes from 70 to 130. This is to mention just a few.

And all enclosed in a package which when parked backwards on my drive with the pipes and badge up against the garage door leaves the great unwashed assuming it nothing special and therfore leave my front door in one peice.

Yes, a 330 will do alot of this but not quite as well. It's down to you to decided if that is worth £10.00 per month in road tax and a bit more juice.

John

[dxb335d]

abarber said:

NoelWatson said:

dxb335d said:

Despite whats been previously said, it is not as quick as a 335d.

I assume you are talking about in gear acceleration rather than a drag race.

Yes, because according to the German mags, the earlier 258bhp 330i is as quick, i.e. there is only .3 of a second to 180kph between them, despite the 335d getting the jump a little off the line. Now the 272bhp version.. See http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/list.htm

Whatever, it's very close & if you want an auto, the 335d is an excellent option.

Edited by abarber on Saturday 28th June 09:42

those timea are pretty dubious.

and to 100mph they state the 335d is 1 second faster.

The time the put the 330i is a very fast time 0-100 in 15.1 secs. Not many do that. Whereas the 14.1 for the 335d is slow compared to other standard times for 335d 0-100.

UK tests have had the 335d 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 and the 330i in 15.5+

[adycav]

Well, I tried a manual 330i (272) and an auto 335i yesterday and was mightily impressed with both. I drove the 335i first and really enjoyed it - apart from the fact that I craved a manual box. It really is a very very quick car across all revs/speeds. The ease which it dismissed a Golf R32 being driven in a tttish manner was astonishing.

Next up was the 330i. Now INITIALLY I was a little disappointed because, to me, it felt a little 'gutless'. However I was conscious of the possible reasons for this, as I had just driven the 335i a short while earlier and my last 2 cars (Focus ST and Leon Cupra R) had a substantial amount of low down f.i. 'urge'.

But...the more I drove the 330i the more I liked it. The power delivery felt more natural and linear without that artificial 'giant hand pushing you down the road' feeling that you can get in turboed cars. To my ears the 330i sounded better too.

However I don't want to dip into my pocket until I've tried a manual 335i. Not many manual 335i saloons about though...

[NoelWatson]

dxb335d said:

abarber said:

NoelWatson said:

dxb335d said:

Despite whats been previously said, it is not as quick as a 335d.

I assume you are talking about in gear acceleration rather than a drag race.

Yes, because according to the German mags, the earlier 258bhp 330i is as quick, i.e. there is only .3 of a second to 180kph between them, despite the 335d getting the jump a little off the line. Now the 272bhp version.. See http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/list.htm

Whatever, it's very close & if you want an auto, the 335d is an excellent option.

Edited by abarber on Saturday 28th June 09:42

those timea are pretty dubious.

and to 100mph they state the 335d is 1 second faster.

The time the put the 330i is a very fast time 0-100 in 15.1 secs. Not many do that. Whereas the 14.1 for the 335d is slow compared to other standard times for 335d 0-100.

UK tests have had the 335d 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 and the 330i in 15.5+

So have BMW got their site wrong as they are quoting 6.1 seconds for the 330i and 6.2 for the 335d?

[Funk]

NoelWatson said:

dxb335d said:

abarber said:

NoelWatson said:

dxb335d said:

Despite whats been previously said, it is not as quick as a 335d.

I assume you are talking about in gear acceleration rather than a drag race.

Yes, because according to the German mags, the earlier 258bhp 330i is as quick, i.e. there is only .3 of a second to 180kph between them, despite the 335d getting the jump a little off the line. Now the 272bhp version.. See http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/list.htm

Whatever, it's very close & if you want an auto, the 335d is an excellent option.

Edited by abarber on Saturday 28th June 09:42

those timea are pretty dubious.

and to 100mph they state the 335d is 1 second faster.

The time the put the 330i is a very fast time 0-100 in 15.1 secs. Not many do that. Whereas the 14.1 for the 335d is slow compared to other standard times for 335d 0-100.

UK tests have had the 335d 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 and the 330i in 15.5+

So have BMW got their site wrong as they are quoting 6.1 seconds for the 330i and 6.2 for the 335d?

This 335d fanboi-ism is getting very repetitive, isn't it?

It's a diesel so it's wrong. End.

[adycav]

This thread is supposed to be about the 330i vs the 335i which is a valid comparison.

The OP clearly states that he doesn't want a diesel.

Yes it's a good car but I've read enough about the 335d to last me a bloody lifetime.

[dxb335d]

NoelWatson said:

dxb335d said:

abarber said:

NoelWatson said:

dxb335d said:

Despite whats been previously said, it is not as quick as a 335d.

I assume you are talking about in gear acceleration rather than a drag race.

Yes, because according to the German mags, the earlier 258bhp 330i is as quick, i.e. there is only .3 of a second to 180kph between them, despite the 335d getting the jump a little off the line. Now the 272bhp version.. See http://www.einszweidrei.de/bmw/list.htm

Whatever, it's very close & if you want an auto, the 335d is an excellent option.

Edited by abarber on Saturday 28th June 09:42

those timea are pretty dubious.

and to 100mph they state the 335d is 1 second faster.

The time the put the 330i is a very fast time 0-100 in 15.1 secs. Not many do that. Whereas the 14.1 for the 335d is slow compared to other standard times for 335d 0-100.

UK tests have had the 335d 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 and the 330i in 15.5+

So have BMW got their site wrong as they are quoting 6.1 seconds for the 330i and 6.2 for the 335d?

Ok mate.

Im going off REAL world tests done by magazines and owners. one car is quicker, sounds like a tractor and drinks smelly fuel.

[Funk]

dxb335d said:

Ok mate.

Im going off REAL world tests done by magazines and owners. one car is quicker, and one sounds like a tractor and drinks smelly fuel.

EFA.

[dxb335d]

Funk said:

dxb335d said:

Ok mate.

Im going off REAL world tests done by magazines and owners. one car is quicker, and one sounds like a tractor and drinks smelly fuel.

EFA.

Ok mate. The diesel unfortunately for you, is quicker than a 330i. 0-60 not much in it, both have done 5.8ish... 0-100 the diesel pulls over a second gap which gets bigger and bigger.

But the OP wants by the sounds of it a free flowing high reving unit which would be the 330i for sure.

[adycav]

[NoelWatson]

dxb335d said:

Funk said:

dxb335d said:

Ok mate.

Im going off REAL world tests done by magazines and owners. one car is quicker, and one sounds like a tractor and drinks smelly fuel.

EFA.

Ok mate. The diesel unfortunately for you, is quicker than a 330i. 0-60 not much in it, both have done 5.8ish... 0-100 the diesel pulls over a second gap which gets bigger and bigger.

But the OP wants by the sounds of it a free flowing high reving unit which would be the 330i for sure.

have you a link to a road test for the ED 330i because I'm scanning my magazines and can't find it?

[dxb335d]

adycav said:

forget that i own one for one minute mate yeah.


I was purely pointing out that a 330i was not as fast as a 335d.

[adycav]

dxb335d said:

adycav said:

forget that i own one for one minute mate yeah.


I was purely pointing out that a 330i was not as fast as a 335d.

But...it doesn't matter.

The OP was seeking discussion regarding the relative merits of the 330i/335i.

Fastest isn't always best.

[NoelWatson]

dxb335d said:

adycav said:

forget that i own one for one minute mate yeah.


I was purely pointing out that a 330i was not as fast as a 335d.

But BMW says it is. Why would they be showing incorrect numbers? Are they afraid of hurting the 330i's pride?

[adycav]

NoelWatson said:

dxb335d said:

adycav said:

forget that i own one for one minute mate yeah.


I was purely pointing out that a 330i was not as fast as a 335d.

But BMW says it is. Why would they be showing incorrect numbers? Are they afraid of hurting the 330i's pride?

Ah, but the 335d is so powerful that BMW have to hide its light under a bushel. If not everybody would buy one, and if we all drove them at once all that torque would tear a hole in the space/tome continuum.

Like when the Ghostbusters cross the streams.

[Funk]

dxb335d said:

Funk said:

dxb335d said:

Ok mate.

Im going off REAL world tests done by magazines and owners. one car is quicker, and one sounds like a tractor and drinks smelly fuel.

EFA.

Ok mate. The diesel unfortunately for you, is quicker than a 330i. 0-60 not much in it, both have done 5.8ish... 0-100 the diesel pulls over a second gap which gets bigger and bigger.

But the OP wants by the sounds of it a free flowing high reving unit which would be the 330i for sure.

You're too easy. Have you secretly had sex with your 335d? Do you caress it gently in the garage at night, whispering to it that no 330i could ever be faster?

Honestly, it's NOT all about your 335d. We get it. You have one and you like it. But stop going ON about it all the time. Really. Please. I'm serious. Let it go. You're starting to resemble this:

Edited by Funk on Sunday 29th June 00:22

[abarber]

dxb335d said:

those timea are pretty dubious.

and to 100mph they state the 335d is 1 second faster.

The time the put the 330i is a very fast time 0-100 in 15.1 secs. Not many do that. Whereas the 14.1 for the 335d is slow compared to other standard times for 335d 0-100.

UK tests have had the 335d 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 and the 330i in 15.5+

You couldn't be more wrong and are ignoring the other tests on that site, that also show there isn't much in it and as the speed builds, the 330i IS faster. The 335d didn't even hit 200kph quick enough for them to measure it. Remember, these are also figures for the 258bhp 330i (and consistent with the 330iXI and others..). The 272bhp is quite a bit faster.

Keep spinning the desert island disks mate..

[dxb335d]

Funk said:

dxb335d said:

Funk said:

dxb335d said:

Ok mate.

Im going off REAL world tests done by magazines and owners. one car is quicker, and one sounds like a tractor and drinks smelly fuel.

EFA.

Ok mate. The diesel unfortunately for you, is quicker than a 330i. 0-60 not much in it, both have done 5.8ish... 0-100 the diesel pulls over a second gap which gets bigger and bigger.

But the OP wants by the sounds of it a free flowing high reving unit which would be the 330i for sure.

You're too easy. Have you secretly had sex with your 335d? Do you caress it gently in the garage at night, whispering to it that no 330i could ever be faster?

Honestly, it's NOT all about your 335d. We get it. You have one and you like it. But stop going ON about it all the time. Really. Please. I'm serious. Let it go. You're starting to resemble this:

Edited by Funk on Sunday 29th June 00:22

I know chap and ill shut up shortly, but i was just commenting on someones post that the 330i is just as fast when in tests in really is not. Over a second in it to 100mph. 0-62mpgh i agree there is nothing in it.