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what pisses me off is the way most bloody diesel owners feel they have to prove that's it's as fast as it's petrol equivalent, it's as if they automoatically have an inferioty complex about it, just buy what you prefer and don't give a toss what is faster or what others think, cars are supposed to be about fun, if you want economy then get a diesel if you want a smooth 6 thwn get a petrol, seems so easy to me and I don't see why we constantly have pages and pages of people trying to justfiy this sort of b
ks, very boring
ks, very boringEdited by taffyracer on Sunday 29th June 14:12
If you feel that simply quoting statistics no matter how you source them is proof that your car is as good, better or worse than another car, then you have already lost the argument if you ask me. Carlos comes across as a child discussing which games console is best based on its processesing power which to anyone who has been around for a while will tell you has no bearing on which is best. Same applies to cars if you ask me...
dxb335d said:
Funk said:
dxb335d said:
Funk said:
dxb335d said:
Ok mate.
Im going off REAL world tests done by magazines and owners. one car is quicker, and one sounds like a tractor and drinks smelly fuel.
EFA.Im going off REAL world tests done by magazines and owners. one car is quicker, and one sounds like a tractor and drinks smelly fuel.
But the OP wants by the sounds of it a free flowing high reving unit which would be the 330i for sure.
Honestly, it's NOT all about your 335d. We get it. You have one and you like it. But stop going ON about it all the time. Really. Please. I'm serious. Let it go. You're starting to resemble this:
Edited by Funk on Sunday 29th June 00:22
OllieBirmingham said:
I wonder how many people have been put off the idea of a 335d in the fear that they may too turn into a repetitive fanboy?
LOL!Some people spend all their time trying to justify their own purchase. The rest of us just enjoy and welcome other alternatives on the market.
I'd personally rather drive a 320i than a 335d, as the diesel sounds awful, has an auto box, and you can feel the extra 100Kgs right on the front wheels. Not fun at all to drive.
abarber said:
OllieBirmingham said:
I wonder how many people have been put off the idea of a 335d in the fear that they may too turn into a repetitive fanboy?
LOL!Some people spend all their time trying to justify their own purchase. The rest of us just enjoy and welcome other alternatives on the market.
I'd personally rather drive a 320i than a 335d, as the diesel sounds awful, has an auto box, and you can feel the extra 100Kgs right on the front wheels. Not fun at all to drive.
Driven mine round track and she handled beautifully. Handles dare i say it as well as a 335i round a track. With the same driver doing a few laps in each im sure the 335i would be a second or so quicker.
Edited by dxb335d on Sunday 29th June 17:06
dxb335d said:
Not sure, but ED does not make it any faster lol.
Im not acting childish. But if someone states a car is as quick as another car, and I know that it isnt i will voice those facts. Whether it be BMW's or Ferrari's.
"Not sure, but ED does not make it any faster lol"Im not acting childish. But if someone states a car is as quick as another car, and I know that it isnt i will voice those facts. Whether it be BMW's or Ferrari's.
Agreed, my argument is that we are comparing the 335d with the non current 330i
dxb335d said:
Not sure, but ED does not make it any faster lol.
Im not acting childish. But if someone states a car is as quick as another car, and I know that it isnt i will voice those facts. Whether it be BMW's or Ferrari's.
But you don't simply state facts, you give an interpretation of your facts. The difference is subtle but important and why you come across as childish. No pragmatism, simply feet stomping "you're wrong because I know". So what if you have tried 4 or 5 times, others have done the same and don't hold up your findings. I am not saying you are wrong or right but I am saying just because your 'tests' show the 335d to be quicker it does not make that a statement of fact.....THE END.Im not acting childish. But if someone states a car is as quick as another car, and I know that it isnt i will voice those facts. Whether it be BMW's or Ferrari's.
Edited by housemaster on Sunday 29th June 19:31
Ive got some results of several cars from bruntingthorpe. Using the same timing gear as what was used on my car its very interesting reading.
one quick example
Subaru Imprezza RB320 did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. I could only muster 5.4 in my derv sippin' tractor. 0.6 seconds behind.
But to 100mph the re-mapped 335d clawed back that 6 tenths. Both cars posted 12.5 0-100. Proving once going the 335d is a quick car. From a rolling 40mph the DMS 335d would pull away cleanly.
now a stock 335d will do 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 seconds, a ED 330i will not do that. it will do it in a shade under 15 secs.
ED does not make a car faster. The 272bhp 330i has been out in the coupe version since 2006. So its nothing new. ED is new and does not boost performance just economy.
The 335d untill you have driven one will never seem to a quick car. It really is. Much faster than any standing starts can show. Its has a short first and seconds gears and has no LSD. It really isnt built for standing starts. Rolling starts it accelerates very well.
Ask Porscha on here, she has been out in my car. Before stepping in it she wouldnt believe what it could do.
It does handle well. People who believe it doesnt are blinkered. Its still a great chassis whether a diesel lump or petrol lump is fitted. It is actually slightly more stable than a 330 or 335i for that extra weight and handles just as well.
If i could post up my videos from my trackday to show you i would. But not being that computer literate i will not.
Im sorry to ''appear'' childish sometimes. But some of you too come accross childish with your ignorance and blatant disregard of a car many of you have not even driven. Ask motoring journalists. They all write highly about the car just like the 335i. But it is not petrol and therefore to some is not a choice of a motoring enthusiast. It really is though. I ask you to try one, the torque is utterly addictive.
Like ive mentioned before my next car will NOT be a diesel, there is not one out there that i know of that can match the x35d engine.
I want an E92 M3 as my next car.
Carlos
one quick example
Subaru Imprezza RB320 did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. I could only muster 5.4 in my derv sippin' tractor. 0.6 seconds behind.
But to 100mph the re-mapped 335d clawed back that 6 tenths. Both cars posted 12.5 0-100. Proving once going the 335d is a quick car. From a rolling 40mph the DMS 335d would pull away cleanly.
now a stock 335d will do 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 seconds, a ED 330i will not do that. it will do it in a shade under 15 secs.
ED does not make a car faster. The 272bhp 330i has been out in the coupe version since 2006. So its nothing new. ED is new and does not boost performance just economy.
The 335d untill you have driven one will never seem to a quick car. It really is. Much faster than any standing starts can show. Its has a short first and seconds gears and has no LSD. It really isnt built for standing starts. Rolling starts it accelerates very well.
Ask Porscha on here, she has been out in my car. Before stepping in it she wouldnt believe what it could do.
It does handle well. People who believe it doesnt are blinkered. Its still a great chassis whether a diesel lump or petrol lump is fitted. It is actually slightly more stable than a 330 or 335i for that extra weight and handles just as well.
If i could post up my videos from my trackday to show you i would. But not being that computer literate i will not.
Im sorry to ''appear'' childish sometimes. But some of you too come accross childish with your ignorance and blatant disregard of a car many of you have not even driven. Ask motoring journalists. They all write highly about the car just like the 335i. But it is not petrol and therefore to some is not a choice of a motoring enthusiast. It really is though. I ask you to try one, the torque is utterly addictive.
Like ive mentioned before my next car will NOT be a diesel, there is not one out there that i know of that can match the x35d engine.
I want an E92 M3 as my next car.
Carlos
Once again...
No one is doubting the ability of the 335d.
Look at the thread title - 330i vs 335i.
You are hijacking the thread.
I see all those numbers about 0-60 and 0-100 and it's all noise to me, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Please try and understand that by pointing this out I am NOT having a go at you or rubbishing your car.
It isn't always about you/the 335d.
Please, for the love of god, give it a rest.
No one is doubting the ability of the 335d.
Look at the thread title - 330i vs 335i.
You are hijacking the thread.
I see all those numbers about 0-60 and 0-100 and it's all noise to me, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Please try and understand that by pointing this out I am NOT having a go at you or rubbishing your car.
It isn't always about you/the 335d.
Please, for the love of god, give it a rest.
dxb335d said:
Im sorry to ''appear'' childish sometimes. But some of you too come accross childish with your ignorance and blatant disregard of a car many of you have not even driven. Ask motoring journalists. They all write highly about the car just like the 335i. But it is not petrol and therefore to some is not a choice of a motoring enthusiast. It really is though. I ask you to try one, the torque is utterly addictive.
I have driven a 335d and a 330i, I have also owned 9 or 10 BMW's including M3's and have been lucky enough to drive many others. I think BMW's are great cars as is the 335d and I have also attended and run at both Fighting Torque and VMax at the same time as Cyclone, so I am well aware how quickly a nicely tuned 335d can be made to go. I would still take a petrol version personally its simply nicer to drive and will be every bit a quick no matter what your stats and numbers may suggest. Automatic + Diesel is yet to be the ingredients of a great drivers car but that is not to say its not a great car at what it does........just not the uber BMW you want it to be.When you get an E92 M3 you will begin to see why I think you are somewhat short of experience perhaps, rather than childish. How you can prefer a 335d over a CSL is simply beyond me, which I seem to remember you suggesting in a previous post but I also appreciate we are all different.
housemaster said:
dxb335d said:
Im sorry to ''appear'' childish sometimes. But some of you too come accross childish with your ignorance and blatant disregard of a car many of you have not even driven. Ask motoring journalists. They all write highly about the car just like the 335i. But it is not petrol and therefore to some is not a choice of a motoring enthusiast. It really is though. I ask you to try one, the torque is utterly addictive.
I have driven a 335d and a 330i, I have also owned 9 or 10 BMW's including M3's and have been lucky enough to drive many others. I think BMW's are great cars as is the 335d and I have also attended and run at both Fighting Torque and VMax at the same time as Cyclone, so I am well aware how quickly a nicely tuned 335d can be made to go. I would still take a petrol version personally its simply nicer to drive and will be every bit a quick no matter what your stats and numbers may suggest. Automatic + Diesel is yet to be the ingredients of a great drivers car but that is not to say its not a great car at what it does........just not the uber BMW you want it to be.When you get an E92 M3 you will begin to see why I think you are somewhat short of experience perhaps, rather than childish. How you can prefer a 335d over a CSL is simply beyond me, which I seem to remember you suggesting in a previous post but I also appreciate we are all different.
I have driven a few tasty cars now. But the 335d may not be a CSL and will not do what a CSL can do in a racing drivers hand round a circuit, but it is a fine handling car.
baz1985 said:
I bet the 330 will still be going strong at 100k.....by which time the 335d would have probably had 3 sets of injectors and a host of turbos.
Think thats a silly statemant. There are owners in here with 535d with well over 100k having had no injectors or turbos replaced. Although the previous M3 was recalled for BIG END bearing issues......dxb335d said:
Ive got some results of several cars from bruntingthorpe. Using the same timing gear as what was used on my car its very interesting reading.
one quick example
Subaru Imprezza RB320 did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. I could only muster 5.4 in my derv sippin' tractor. 0.6 seconds behind.
But to 100mph the re-mapped 335d clawed back that 6 tenths. Both cars posted 12.5 0-100. Proving once going the 335d is a quick car. From a rolling 40mph the DMS 335d would pull away cleanly.
now a stock 335d will do 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 seconds, a ED 330i will not do that. it will do it in a shade under 15 secs.
ED does not make a car faster. The 272bhp 330i has been out in the coupe version since 2006. So its nothing new. ED is new and does not boost performance just economy.
The 335d untill you have driven one will never seem to a quick car. It really is. Much faster than any standing starts can show. Its has a short first and seconds gears and has no LSD. It really isnt built for standing starts. Rolling starts it accelerates very well.
Ask Porscha on here, she has been out in my car. Before stepping in it she wouldnt believe what it could do.
It does handle well. People who believe it doesnt are blinkered. Its still a great chassis whether a diesel lump or petrol lump is fitted. It is actually slightly more stable than a 330 or 335i for that extra weight and handles just as well.
If i could post up my videos from my trackday to show you i would. But not being that computer literate i will not.
Im sorry to ''appear'' childish sometimes. But some of you too come accross childish with your ignorance and blatant disregard of a car many of you have not even driven. Ask motoring journalists. They all write highly about the car just like the 335i. But it is not petrol and therefore to some is not a choice of a motoring enthusiast. It really is though. I ask you to try one, the torque is utterly addictive.
Like ive mentioned before my next car will NOT be a diesel, there is not one out there that i know of that can match the x35d engine.
I want an E92 M3 as my next car.
Carlos
"ED does not make a car faster. The 272bhp 330i has been out in the coupe version since 2006. So its nothing new. ED is new and does not boost performance just economy."one quick example
Subaru Imprezza RB320 did 0-60 in 4.8 seconds. I could only muster 5.4 in my derv sippin' tractor. 0.6 seconds behind.
But to 100mph the re-mapped 335d clawed back that 6 tenths. Both cars posted 12.5 0-100. Proving once going the 335d is a quick car. From a rolling 40mph the DMS 335d would pull away cleanly.
now a stock 335d will do 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 seconds, a ED 330i will not do that. it will do it in a shade under 15 secs.
ED does not make a car faster. The 272bhp 330i has been out in the coupe version since 2006. So its nothing new. ED is new and does not boost performance just economy.
The 335d untill you have driven one will never seem to a quick car. It really is. Much faster than any standing starts can show. Its has a short first and seconds gears and has no LSD. It really isnt built for standing starts. Rolling starts it accelerates very well.
Ask Porscha on here, she has been out in my car. Before stepping in it she wouldnt believe what it could do.
It does handle well. People who believe it doesnt are blinkered. Its still a great chassis whether a diesel lump or petrol lump is fitted. It is actually slightly more stable than a 330 or 335i for that extra weight and handles just as well.
If i could post up my videos from my trackday to show you i would. But not being that computer literate i will not.
Im sorry to ''appear'' childish sometimes. But some of you too come accross childish with your ignorance and blatant disregard of a car many of you have not even driven. Ask motoring journalists. They all write highly about the car just like the 335i. But it is not petrol and therefore to some is not a choice of a motoring enthusiast. It really is though. I ask you to try one, the torque is utterly addictive.
Like ive mentioned before my next car will NOT be a diesel, there is not one out there that i know of that can match the x35d engine.
I want an E92 M3 as my next car.
Carlos
We need to get Wikipedia to correct their details as it is saying the N53 was only in the 3 series (non-convertible) from Sep 2007 onwards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_N53
September 2007-Present BMW 3 Series (BMW E90/E91/E92): 325i, 325xi, 330i, 330xi
"now a stock 335d will do 0-100 in 13.5-13.7 seconds, a ED 330i will not do that. it will do it in a shade under 15 secs. "
We need to get BMW to correct their numbers.
Edited by NoelWatson on Monday 30th June 05:25
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