535d owners - question for you.

535d owners - question for you.

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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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r3nuf said:
Well....my 535d is a Sept 07 Lci 286bhp model and the rev counter was telling me approx 1650 rpm at 70mph.

With a good mix of driving speeds and roads, the onboard puter suggests that i normally acheive an average 36.5mpg

Cruising at 70mph, it would appear to hover around 45-50mpg

HTH!
It seems like its geared to 42.42mph/1000rpm in 6th gear

2k= 85mph
3k= 127mph
4k= 170mph
5k= 212mph

So at the speed limiter 155mph your doing 3,650rpm thats remarkable.

MPG readout - many thanks chaps thats exactly what I wanted to hear, been hearing so much negatives about the MPG with some people just getting low to mid 20's out of the 272bhp & then the 286bhp is about 30mpg this clearly shows that you can get very good mpg. (I guess the OP who have the low MPG's are either in heavy traffic or they use a lot of the performance).


If I were to buy one of the 272bhp Sports from BMW AUC and say it was up for £20k how much less should I big in the current climate? Would it be sensible to go in maybe £3k or even £4k under asking price then walk out and see if they call me back with a counter offer?


Andy M

3,755 posts

260 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Welshbeef said:
If I were to buy one of the 272bhp Sports from BMW AUC and say it was up for £20k how much less should I big in the current climate? Would it be sensible to go in maybe £3k or even £4k under asking price then walk out and see if they call me back with a counter offer?
Very unlikely they will accept, as BMW margins just aren't that high (unlike Porsche).

You may hit lucky, and it's worth giving it a go, but even in this market a grand knocked off the price is a decent result (and I'm somebody who loves to haggle and usually gets good prices).

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Very unlikely they will accept, as BMW margins just aren't that high (unlike Porsche).

You may hit lucky, and it's worth giving it a go, but even in this market a grand knocked off the price is a decent result (and I'm somebody who loves to haggle and usually gets good prices).
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I'd have expected more than that!
£1k off a £20k car is a mere 5% saving - I would have expected that in normal market conditions.


I think though if you do go in too low you will just look/sound like a messer/tyre kicker and not a true buyer so finding the correct % off screen price is the key I feel 5% is way too little but then again it depends on what the asking price is and its options/milage

Andy M

3,755 posts

260 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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You appear to like your percentages wink

Most dealers have already reduced the prices (and size) of their stock, to the point now that many dealers are actually cheaper than private offerings.

If you know somebody who works at a dealership they can actually tell you what the car was bought in for etc. The car will owe them that price, plus the cost of a warranty and any minor repairs and service work which will have had to be carried out.

What sort of discount are you expecting?

rossfitz

501 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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I had a go at this and on a 2005 535d (272) at 70mph had 1650 with what seems like a very poor 30.9 mpg. Don't think I had the handbrake on either!

Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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rossfitz said:
I had a go at this and on a 2005 535d (272) at 70mph had 1650 with what seems like a very poor 30.9 mpg. Don't think I had the handbrake on either!
That is poor - was that average MPG or instant mpg>? If its instant and not a steep gradient then maybe your using a lesser grade diesel or your injectors are a little clogged or some other reason (low pressure in tyres)?

IMHO there shoud be no difference in cars 535d 272bhp in the UK @ this suggested test speed if there is then there must be something wrong.

rossfitz

501 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Instant reading. I did hear about some cars being set up for American gallon readings which can be changed on the computer, but I could never work out where to go to check.

Best check the tyres.


Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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rossfitz said:
Instant reading. I did hear about some cars being set up for American gallon readings which can be changed on the computer, but I could never work out where to go to check.

Best check the tyres.
I'd try this a couple more times.

Also try it at 60mph & 50mph and quote your readouts here - Im sure some fellow PHers will/could do the same and that will indicate if there is a disparity.
Its probably tyre inflation - also tyre make/tread pattern makes a difference too. Plus was your car fully laiden/full tank of fuel/touring vs saloon?

Still IMHO the gap is too much - OR your car is a little/lot more tired than the other persons

rossfitz

501 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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It is a touring which probably make a bit of difference.


Welshbeef

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Wednesday 10th September 2008
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rossfitz said:
It is a touring which probably make a bit of difference.
So it should be a bit lower but not that much.

PJR

2,616 posts

213 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Andy M said:
Welshbeef - PLEASE JUST BUY A BLOODY CAR!!!
Agreed.. Get on with it for crying out loud..

P,

Paul R

1,181 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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PJR said:
Andy M said:
Welshbeef - PLEASE JUST BUY A BLOODY CAR!!!
Agreed.. Get on with it for crying out loud..

P,
Shall we all have a whip round and buy the chap one laugh

Welshbeef

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199 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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I very nearly bought a 330d M Sport Auto Leather today 2 yrs old BUT the Mrs text me saying PLEASE dont spend the wedding pot....
hmm.

Paul R

1,181 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Spend the wedding pot, why do you want to pay sheds loads of money for everyone else to have a nice time eating your food and drinking your wine!!? laugh And it's all over in a day. Go on go on go on, you know you want to evil

Welshbeef

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199 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Paul R said:
Spend the wedding pot, why do you want to pay sheds loads of money for everyone else to have a nice time eating your food and drinking your wine!!? laugh And it's all over in a day. Go on go on go on, you know you want to evil
lol No all that has been partially paid for in deposits - so doing that suggestion would = loss of deposit and then the need to find another caterer etc for original cost less lost deposit less a bit more...frankly not easy at all.

Rest is Honeymoom £.

Junior Mint

141 posts

240 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Holy crap. I bought my 55 reg 535d M Sport Touring from a dealer for £32,000 with 29k on the clock last July. Is it really only worth £20k now?

Oh well, just as well I mentally write the value off when I've bought a car. That's really good value if you can get one now for low £20k's.

nick555

35 posts

198 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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motors dropping like stones in all categories at the moment, i bought a fully loaded 56 plate 535d m sport 28000 miles in april this year for £32k and have just let it go for £25k , hardly any phone calls and received loads of offers lower than that!

great cars though

Welshbeef

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Thursday 11th September 2008
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Junior Mint said:
Holy crap. I bought my 55 reg 535d M Sport Touring from a dealer for £32,000 with 29k on the clock last July. Is it really only worth £20k now?

Oh well, just as well I mentally write the value off when I've bought a car. That's really good value if you can get one now for low £20k's.
Well its losing £ every day like every car - the thing is people are downsizing /not changing so suddenly less demand and less customers to buy your car hence its worth less.

I mean frankly there is nothing wrong with a Leon Curpa TDI 150bhp one could eek out a few more years without really suffering that much from not having the daddy 535d & then buy it for half of what it is today.

dxb335d

2,905 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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Mine on flat level road at 70mph and 1/4 throttle is well over 45mpg. on the needle.

Welshbeef

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Thursday 11th September 2008
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dxb335d said:
Mine on flat level road at 70mph and 1/4 throttle is well over 45mpg. on the needle.
272 or 286?
Thnx