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1,038 posts

92 months

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Over the last 4 weeks Ive had 8 enquires for quotes on the replacement of the DSC (dynamic stability control) control unit for 1 and 3 series all around the 54 - 55 plate vehicles, also I have diagnosed 3 this week.

Theres is an internal fault with the pressure sensor. This is integral to the control unit and has to be replaced as a complete DSC pump and control unit.

This little baby comes in at £1800 fitted via BMW (£1239 for the unit alone) and they are fitting loads of them. I have done some digging around and one dealer had 16 in stock at the start of september and are now down to 3, spoke to a tech and they have been fitting 2 - 3 a week.

I have been giving quotes but strongly urge people to try and get goodwill from BMW....This is a premature failure of a devise that is designed to last the life of the vehicle.....

mike325112

1,038 posts

67 months

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I had mine done recently on the 1er. Got a goodwill gesture from BMW which bought the bill down to £300 - better than a kick in the balls.

I went to BMW customer services as the first offer the dealer go me was quite low, got a better deal afer speaking to them myself. The offers appear to be dependant on if you bought from BM and/or have full service history.

toxicnerve

7,507 posts

60 months

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This issue is popping up on a couple of forums that i've been reading.

I've also heard that the DSC failure can be because of a faulty ECU...it sounds like it's a pretty widespread issue.

cptsideways

10,604 posts

135 months

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Interesting, the DSC is part of the reason why the cars have low NCAP ratings, failure in such a system is pretty serious on many counts.

toxicnerve

7,507 posts

60 months

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cptsideways said:
Interesting, the DSC is part of the reason why the cars have low NCAP ratings, failure in such a system is pretty serious on many counts.
Why would the DSC itself lead to low NCAP ratings? Or are you saying the low NCAP rating is a result of the likelyhood of the DSC units failing?
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NBTBRV8

1,147 posts

91 months

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As a matter of interest what is the part number?

cptsideways

10,604 posts

135 months

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toxicnerve said:
cptsideways said:
Interesting, the DSC is part of the reason why the cars have low NCAP ratings, failure in such a system is pretty serious on many counts.
Why would the DSC itself lead to low NCAP ratings? Or are you saying the low NCAP rating is a result of the likelyhood of the DSC units failing?
I meant HIGH NCAP ratings as in five stars etc ooopppps


Would be an interesting angle to push BMW for free repairs

sjj84

1,373 posts

102 months

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Saturday 3rd October 2009 quote quote all
My dad had this problem with his 06 320D, fortunately under warranty at the time. Dealers had to get the part in from Germany and was a bit of a wait.

va1o

13,455 posts

90 months

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Wednesday 7th October 2009 quote quote all
Am I right in thinking that the same Teves Mk 60 ABS part is used in the VW Golf MK5 (and all derived cars) and tends to have a habit of failing just outside of warranty?

I really think a recall ought to be done, didn't realise it was so widespred.

PJR

2,616 posts

95 months

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Had this on the 120D auto a couple of months ago. The car is 4 or 5 years old now, but fortunately has an extended warranty! BMW told us it would have been a £1700 bill otherwise.. Ouch..
Besides the ABS/traction light sticking on, the car appeared to drive fine otherwise. I had no idea it was a common problem until I saw this thread.

P,

mike325112

1,038 posts

67 months

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There are lots of threads on www.babybmw.net about DSC failures. Its also worth noting that if you pay even the smallest contribution to it BMW will warranty the new part for 2 years - if you get it done for free there is no warranty.

Killwilly

429 posts

71 months

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I have been following this post with interest. Whilst most of the cars affected are 4/5 years old, could the same thing apply to the new 120d and 123d M sport coupes?

Klankie

73 posts

62 months

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Thankfully I,ve not experienced any problems with my 1 series, but its still under an AUC warranty, I take it this would cover any costs were it to go wrong?

toxicnerve

7,507 posts

60 months

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This issue extends to 3 series cars too...there's one guy on e90post to whom it has happened twice, first on the original factory unit and then the 2nd time on the replacement they used to fix the first fault!!!

va1o

13,455 posts

90 months

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toxicnerve said:
This issue extends to 3 series cars too...there's one guy on e90post to whom it has happened twice, first on the original factory unit and then the 2nd time on the replacement they used to fix the first fault!!!
It says 3-series in the title. Nobody replied to my post, but I am fairly sure this is the same problem that affects a huge huge number of VAG cars.

toxicnerve

7,507 posts

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va1o said:
toxicnerve said:
This issue extends to 3 series cars too...there's one guy on e90post to whom it has happened twice, first on the original factory unit and then the 2nd time on the replacement they used to fix the first fault!!!
It says 3-series in the title. Nobody replied to my post, but I am fairly sure this is the same problem that affects a huge huge number of VAG cars.
You're quite right, I was just highlighting as a lot of the reports here have been re 1 series.

Do you know for sure that VAG and BMW are using the same part?

sonnyb

78 posts

77 months

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Are we talking about E46 or E90 here?

va1o

13,455 posts

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toxicnerve said:
Do you know for sure that VAG and BMW are using the same part?
Not for sure, but according to Honest John it is, and they both fail at the same time and cost the same ammount of money to replace.

toxicnerve

7,507 posts

60 months

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sonnyb said:
Are we talking about E46 or E90 here?
I've been reading about the E9x series cars specifically.

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sonnyb said:
Are we talking about E46 or E90 here?
E90/91
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