RE: BMW One Series

RE: BMW One Series

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Stig

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11,818 posts

285 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Zod said:
Yeah and of course no one wll buy it because it is the only rwd car in its class and performs well.

Try to lose the reflex anti-BMW reaction.


Zod - it's not anti-BMW and given that most buyers will be women looking for shopping cars, they don't give a stuff about RWD. In fact, give them some snow and they'll be positively craving an alternative.

Regarding the performance - have you driven one?

Thought not.

Either way, I just don't like it.

M3 - yes please
BMW One - one too many IMHO

Rincewind

3 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Well, I have to agree with most people here, it's horrid, and I bet if you looked hard enough, you would find that a majority of the car was designed at Longbridge by MG Rover and after BMW spat them out and took the Mini with them, they probably took this platform with them and put a new body shell on it and called it their own, just as they have with the Mini!

I reckon that it will have no interior space as being a rear wheel drive, there will be an effin' huge propshaft tunnel and rear axle arrangement which will eat into the rear leg room and cabin space so you will have to sit there with your knees round your ears just because you want to own a cheap and nasty BMW!

Another car from BMW that's like a broken pencil............ pointless!

DennisTheMenace

15,603 posts

269 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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iains

1,099 posts

259 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Some of the people on here are completely missing the point.

This is all about marketing and placing a product in a market place against its direct 'price' rivals - if you look at the compeition then you start to rationalise it.

I suppose the question is - do you buy cars with your head (with an eye for costs / deprecitaion) or your heart?

hughgabriel

3,549 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Is it just me or are BMW trying to steal sales from the A3, they look similarly sized?

3 door version could be better (same as rover 200), but i wont hold my breathe

catsflap

90 posts

248 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Not a lover of any of Bangles current designs, though i like this. I will be in the market for a compact diesel with a bit of poke, and this looks refreshing.. Yes vote of confidence from me.

Rovertron

416 posts

249 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Looks like a plastic pedal car whacked in a kiln for too long. Utterly disgusting design, driving that in town will get you laughed at. Seeing as most BMW drivers are in for image this will not go down well.

As for the short wheelbase, RWD and that power up front, I trust it comes with all the ego-toys like EBD and Traction Control.

Oh dear, oh dear. I bet VW are breathing a sigh of relief at this one, it makes the new Golf look pretty.

jam1et

1,536 posts

253 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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What is it going to cost?
At least if you put a dent in the side you wouldnt really notice it....

ScoobyZoom

6,578 posts

249 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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3 door is on the way

prices unconfirmed but the start for the 5dr will be circa £16,000 we are told... ish... maybe.. should be

Stig

Original Poster:

11,818 posts

285 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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iains said:
Some of the people on here are completely missing the point.

This is all about marketing and placing a product in a market place against its direct 'price' rivals - if you look at the compeition then you start to rationalise it.

I suppose the question is - do you buy cars with your head (with an eye for costs / deprecitaion) or your heart?


Unfortunately, I think that it's you who is missing the point.

The general public (in the UK at least) buy cars primarily for the aesthetics. Before you ask, there is plenty of market research that show this to be the case.

Just look at the 318ti - that was supposed to take on Ford in the budget class. Hardly sold though did it!

trefor

14,635 posts

284 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Well this one will probably have very good residuals and it's nicer looking and I suspect a better car all round than the BMW Mini (personal opinion).

Looks like an Astra to me from some aspects (roofline/back end) - oops.

RichB

51,605 posts

285 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Zod said:
Try to lose the reflex anti-BMW reaction.
Why? If a car looks ugly then tell it like it is. Nothing to do with the badge on the nose. It's looks shit, as do a hundred and one other cars that are not Beemers (usually Malaysian or Taiwanese town-boxes or 4x4) , BMW just happen to make a fair proportion of the ugly ones at the moment. Hard to swallow if you like Beemers, but true. Rich...

Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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I wasn't referring to the looks and I'll wait to see one to make my mind up there.

True, not many girlies will factor rwd into their buying decision, but others will. As for snow, I'm more scared of fwd in thick snow, but perhaps that's because I'm used to rwd.

rodsmith

261 posts

262 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Shite

agent006

12,040 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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ScoobyZoom said:
3 door is on the way

prices unconfirmed but the start for the 5dr will be circa £16,000 we are told... ish... maybe.. should be


SIXTEEN THOUSAND POUNDS. F*CK ME. You can buy a proper big car for that.

Dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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If bmw (bmw) goes on making great cars look plain ugly . . . they will loose a huge part of their fans . . . 7 looks off, 5 looks well off, 1 looks no looks.

This is definetely a headturner: the other way!

"hey, check out the great looking Deawoo passing!"

ninjaboy

2,525 posts

251 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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m-five said:
Looks like an Alfa 147...



The 147 is a very nice looking car, that is just tragic you don't see many Z4's round so i would say most people don't like bmw's new styling much it might drive ok but its so ugly and even abit dull in my opinion

jamieheasman

823 posts

285 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Oh dear.

My recommendation if you want a fast, fun, small car with BMW prestige? A nicely restored 2002Tii - probably the best car BMW have ever made and you'll get plenty of change from 16k even after you've added some modern conveniences.

Personally I think it looks like the recently replaced Mazda 323 SP20 with hints of Nissan Sunny/Almera/Pulsar (delete depending on market).

New Mazda 3 is a nicely styled small car........

loveice

649 posts

248 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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forget about details. as chief designer of GM once said:

for a property the most infortant thing is LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION!

as for a car the most inportant things is PROPORTION! PROPORTION! PROPORTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pjkracing

6 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd March 2004
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Ford Focus with square edges. IMHO.