BMW 535d vs Audi A8 4.0 tdi
Discussion
Right guys im after some advice please
I plan to purchase one of these two diesel beasts in 6 months time and would like some input on anyone who has owned either one of these two. I toyed with the idea of a 730d but im not too sure about the looks and the reported reliability issues on various forum sites so its down to the above two.
Which out of the two is the most reliable?
Which year / years is best to be avoided?
Ventilated and massage seats is this option available on both these motors?
Is the BMW 730d really that bad reliability wise?
thanks
I plan to purchase one of these two diesel beasts in 6 months time and would like some input on anyone who has owned either one of these two. I toyed with the idea of a 730d but im not too sure about the looks and the reported reliability issues on various forum sites so its down to the above two.
Which out of the two is the most reliable?
Which year / years is best to be avoided?
Ventilated and massage seats is this option available on both these motors?
Is the BMW 730d really that bad reliability wise?
thanks
blitzed007 said:
Right guys im after some advice please
I plan to purchase one of these two diesel beasts in 6 months time and would like some input on anyone who has owned either one of these two. I toyed with the idea of a 730d but im not too sure about the looks and the reported reliability issues on various forum sites so its down to the above two.
Which out of the two is the most reliable?
Which year / years is best to be avoided?
Ventilated and massage seats is this option available on both these motors?
Is the BMW 730d really that bad reliability wise?
thanks
Whats your budget?I plan to purchase one of these two diesel beasts in 6 months time and would like some input on anyone who has owned either one of these two. I toyed with the idea of a 730d but im not too sure about the looks and the reported reliability issues on various forum sites so its down to the above two.
Which out of the two is the most reliable?
Which year / years is best to be avoided?
Ventilated and massage seats is this option available on both these motors?
Is the BMW 730d really that bad reliability wise?
thanks
amongst all his usual cr4p is a write-up on the A8 4.0 tdi
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/jeremy_cl...
personally I'd go for the Audi as I've never been much of a (non "M") BMW fan
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/jeremy_cl...
personally I'd go for the Audi as I've never been much of a (non "M") BMW fan
daemon said:
roofer said:
For 14k i think you will find a better Audi than you will a BMW.
Really, any evidence to back that up? Or are you just guessing?535d on the other had remains sought after.
Having driven an A8 recently (59 plate), I'd take an E60 anyday. Nothing in the way of feedback or involvement, so if swooshing along motorways is what you're after, why not look at a Pheaeton aswell?
If driving is what you're after, 535/530d or 730d! Older 3.0d (N54's, like mine) does/will have issues with swirl flaps, which isn't cheap if they fail (>£4k for a rebuild for me), but can be cheap & easy fix if they haven't failed - and solves the 'issue' AFAIK.
Wont be selling our E60 for a while to feel like I've got some value from it
If driving is what you're after, 535/530d or 730d! Older 3.0d (N54's, like mine) does/will have issues with swirl flaps, which isn't cheap if they fail (>£4k for a rebuild for me), but can be cheap & easy fix if they haven't failed - and solves the 'issue' AFAIK.
Wont be selling our E60 for a while to feel like I've got some value from it
If you're going for an E60 try and get the facelift cars as the ride is supposed to be better i.e. they changed it to accommodate the RFT's...the early cars had suspension for normal tyres and RFT's. I'd actually check the ride full stop as given you are looking at an A8 this might be an issue for you. An SE on 17's will ride a lot better than than an M Sport on 19's. Don't know about massage seats but they will be very hard to find....Comfort Seats are brilliant (they don't include the massage function) but are very good.
My car was used in a direct comparison for Autocar earlier this year.
They are two totally different machines, but the 535D was suggested to be the better of the two.
As it happens, mine is also going on the market this week
07, LCI, fully loaded........
Oh, and ignore the 'comments' I made - total bks and simply made up by the journalist
They are two totally different machines, but the 535D was suggested to be the better of the two.
As it happens, mine is also going on the market this week
07, LCI, fully loaded........
Oh, and ignore the 'comments' I made - total bks and simply made up by the journalist
roofer said:
daemon said:
roofer said:
For 14k i think you will find a better Audi than you will a BMW.
Really, any evidence to back that up? Or are you just guessing?No idea what mine is worth (and I don't care) but it may not even be £14k. Even so it has a great specification (£52k when new) and other than some stone chips on the front and an alloy in need of refurbishment it looks and drives great.
Depends what the OP wants - for a barge to cruise motorways I doubt the Audi can be bettered but for something which ticks that box and is far more rewarding to drive the 535d would be a much better bet and with some effort I'm sure a good one could be found for £14k.
Anyone have good review for the 535d!? I was all set on the 535d, saw it as the perfect car...economy, comfort, performance, etc...but I've heard from a list of owners as long as my arm that they're fantastic when they're running, but a disaster as regards reliability! I've met a lot lately going to Audi or Merc as a result? Anyone have a 535d that has done big mileage? I've an A6 and have done 160k miles and counting, and never a bother! Will I be disappointed if I go for a 535d as I've been told?
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