RE: PH2 Tested: Ducati Diavel
Discussion
Had mine around 6 weeks now and its in for its 1st service tommorrow.
Very nice bike and does everything really well, certainly better than my Rocket 111 I chopped in as PX.
Very fast, nimble, and handles superb.
Compliments my 09 Busa perfectly.
Anyone thinking of one, go and ride one but beware... it is VERY addictive.
Very nice bike and does everything really well, certainly better than my Rocket 111 I chopped in as PX.
Very fast, nimble, and handles superb.
Compliments my 09 Busa perfectly.
Anyone thinking of one, go and ride one but beware... it is VERY addictive.
MSTRBKR said:
This bike makes me want to get a licence 
Do it! I'm not going to stoke controversy and say that bikes are more fun than cars but I'll say that unless you're a millionaire, the quickest bike you can afford will be much more fun than the quickest car you can afford.
Yesterday, after doing Level 1 and 2 of the Calif SBK school, I commuted to work on the old Multistrada and I was enjoying myself so much you couldn't have paid me to do it in a Murcielago, as in the car I'd be stuck in the traffic, on the bike its basically like a trackday everyday
BlackPrince said:
Do it!
I'm not going to stoke controversy and say that bikes are more fun than cars but I'll say that unless you're a millionaire, the quickest bike you can afford will be much more fun than the quickest car you can afford.
Yesterday, after doing Level 1 and 2 of the Calif SBK school, I commuted to work on the old Multistrada and I was enjoying myself so much you couldn't have paid me to do it in a Murcielago, as in the car I'd be stuck in the traffic, on the bike its basically like a trackday everyday
As a non biker I find myself reading this thread. I run an Elise S2 which I could chop in for this lovely bike. My OH would go nuts if I got it, plus I am somewhat at risk of killing myself on such a bike! I best stick with 4 wheels and a roof. (?) Do you not find on superbikes that you have quite a few OMG moments?I'm not going to stoke controversy and say that bikes are more fun than cars but I'll say that unless you're a millionaire, the quickest bike you can afford will be much more fun than the quickest car you can afford.
Yesterday, after doing Level 1 and 2 of the Calif SBK school, I commuted to work on the old Multistrada and I was enjoying myself so much you couldn't have paid me to do it in a Murcielago, as in the car I'd be stuck in the traffic, on the bike its basically like a trackday everyday
Evening all.
This is a very rare posting from me. I'll try not to break any rules of ettiquette.
First I'd like to add my thanks to PH for giving us a good review.
I put a deposit on a Diavel a week ago. I'd test ridden one a few weeks before and thought "it's not the beast I was expecting". But after that I spent every day thinking "I want it! I want it! I want it!".
The power is fun, but not savage, even in sport mode. The handling is on a par with my current bike, a 696 Monster, but with acceleration in superbike league. And the breaks, wow! I didn't put the ABS to the test, but I was seriously impressed. I reckon it's not fair to think of it as a power cruiser. It's more of a laid back Monster.
The looks: errm... well.. err... moving swiftly on.
Now that I have a problematic lower back I'll not be going back to sports bikes. There's nothing on Earth that would drive me to a cruiser. But the Diavel will be as much fun on most A roads as anything I can think of, and hopefully 200 mile return trips wont leave me crippled.
In response to Nick_j007: I had an Elise for a couple of years in the late 90's and loved it. But a motorbike is a very different animal. Sure there are the OMG moments, and occasionally having to see mates leaving the scene in an ambulance. But almost any journey on a bike can be an experience, not just a trip from A to B.
Anyway, I'd better stop before I sound like I'm trying to convert you.
So, there's my 2 pence worth.
When the bike arrives, ("possibly late June" I'm told), I might even get round to updating my PH garage.
This is a very rare posting from me. I'll try not to break any rules of ettiquette.
First I'd like to add my thanks to PH for giving us a good review.
I put a deposit on a Diavel a week ago. I'd test ridden one a few weeks before and thought "it's not the beast I was expecting". But after that I spent every day thinking "I want it! I want it! I want it!".
The power is fun, but not savage, even in sport mode. The handling is on a par with my current bike, a 696 Monster, but with acceleration in superbike league. And the breaks, wow! I didn't put the ABS to the test, but I was seriously impressed. I reckon it's not fair to think of it as a power cruiser. It's more of a laid back Monster.
The looks: errm... well.. err... moving swiftly on.
Now that I have a problematic lower back I'll not be going back to sports bikes. There's nothing on Earth that would drive me to a cruiser. But the Diavel will be as much fun on most A roads as anything I can think of, and hopefully 200 mile return trips wont leave me crippled.
In response to Nick_j007: I had an Elise for a couple of years in the late 90's and loved it. But a motorbike is a very different animal. Sure there are the OMG moments, and occasionally having to see mates leaving the scene in an ambulance. But almost any journey on a bike can be an experience, not just a trip from A to B.
Anyway, I'd better stop before I sound like I'm trying to convert you.
So, there's my 2 pence worth.
When the bike arrives, ("possibly late June" I'm told), I might even get round to updating my PH garage.
SpudLink said:
Evening all.
This is a very rare posting from me. I'll try not to break any rules of ettiquette.
First I'd like to add my thanks to PH for giving us a good review.
I put a deposit on a Diavel a week ago. I'd test ridden one a few weeks before and thought "it's not the beast I was expecting". But after that I spent every day thinking "I want it! I want it! I want it!".
The power is fun, but not savage, even in sport mode. The handling is on a par with my current bike, a 696 Monster, but with acceleration in superbike league. And the breaks, wow! I didn't put the ABS to the test, but I was seriously impressed. I reckon it's not fair to think of it as a power cruiser. It's more of a laid back Monster.
The looks: errm... well.. err... moving swiftly on.
Now that I have a problematic lower back I'll not be going back to sports bikes. There's nothing on Earth that would drive me to a cruiser. But the Diavel will be as much fun on most A roads as anything I can think of, and hopefully 200 mile return trips wont leave me crippled.
In response to Nick_j007: I had an Elise for a couple of years in the late 90's and loved it. But a motorbike is a very different animal. Sure there are the OMG moments, and occasionally having to see mates leaving the scene in an ambulance. But almost any journey on a bike can be an experience, not just a trip from A to B.
Anyway, I'd better stop before I sound like I'm trying to convert you.
So, there's my 2 pence worth.
When the bike arrives, ("possibly late June" I'm told), I might even get round to updating my PH garage.
I look forward to seeing some pictures of your one when you take delivery of it This is a very rare posting from me. I'll try not to break any rules of ettiquette.
First I'd like to add my thanks to PH for giving us a good review.
I put a deposit on a Diavel a week ago. I'd test ridden one a few weeks before and thought "it's not the beast I was expecting". But after that I spent every day thinking "I want it! I want it! I want it!".
The power is fun, but not savage, even in sport mode. The handling is on a par with my current bike, a 696 Monster, but with acceleration in superbike league. And the breaks, wow! I didn't put the ABS to the test, but I was seriously impressed. I reckon it's not fair to think of it as a power cruiser. It's more of a laid back Monster.
The looks: errm... well.. err... moving swiftly on.
Now that I have a problematic lower back I'll not be going back to sports bikes. There's nothing on Earth that would drive me to a cruiser. But the Diavel will be as much fun on most A roads as anything I can think of, and hopefully 200 mile return trips wont leave me crippled.
In response to Nick_j007: I had an Elise for a couple of years in the late 90's and loved it. But a motorbike is a very different animal. Sure there are the OMG moments, and occasionally having to see mates leaving the scene in an ambulance. But almost any journey on a bike can be an experience, not just a trip from A to B.
Anyway, I'd better stop before I sound like I'm trying to convert you.
So, there's my 2 pence worth.
When the bike arrives, ("possibly late June" I'm told), I might even get round to updating my PH garage.
I bet you can't wait
nick_j007 said:
As a non biker I find myself reading this thread. I run an Elise S2 which I could chop in for this lovely bike. My OH would go nuts if I got it, plus I am somewhat at risk of killing myself on such a bike! I best stick with 4 wheels and a roof. (?) Do you not find on superbikes that you have quite a few OMG moments?
Not so much anymore but I used to. And to be honest, the only reason I don't have more is because I ride like a pansy. I think I used to filter faster on my scooter when I first started riding (and in Canada filtering is illegal!) than I do now on a bike that has about 5x the power!
I've done a few track schools and I'm slowly learning to go faster, and I can see myself riding less on the road in the future and more on the track, as you can go fast in relative safety.
I would personally be a lot quicker down a twisty B-road in a powerful car than a bike, and a car wouldn't be much less engaging but definitely less exhilarating imo, if only because of the pure speed of a bike, and the wind (actually just realized that perhaps a convertible would offer that sensation too?)
For day to day exhilaration though, nothing beats a bike, as all it takes to make your day is a single nice corner, braking hard on shellgrip before a roundabout, a straight empty road or even the schadenfreude of filtering and getting to work quicker than everybody else.
nick_j007 said:
As a non biker I find myself reading this thread. I run an Elise S2 which I could chop in for this lovely bike. My OH would go nuts if I got it, plus I am somewhat at risk of killing myself on such a bike! I best stick with 4 wheels and a roof. (?) Do you not find on superbikes that you have quite a few OMG moments?
I love both cars and bikes but for me the buzz you get from a bike is so much more intense. And you can get supercar-beating performance for the price of an expensive service on a Ferrari.Unfortunately, bikes are much, much more dangerous than cars. For most riders it is a question of when, not if, you and going to have an accident and almost all bike accidents hurt, someone of them a lot. And of course, death or serious injury are a real risk.
I knew the risks when I started riding and still carried on despite falling off (was unfortunate to come off on diesel on a brow of a hill) and the later seeing someone I was riding with killed....but then I had a big crash, that I was very lucky to survive, and I had to promise my wife I wouldn't ride on the road again. She was kind enough to let me do trackdays, although I can only fit one in every other year or so and it is difficult going on track with such little saddle time. However, as much as I love trackdays they still don't compare to riding fast on the road. But it is better than not biking at all.
So not sure I can recommend bikes to non-bikers. At least not 100%. Despite loving them. If you do try it, you might find it difficult to give up.
Back on the original topic of this thread. Sounds like the Diavel is great to ride...but I'm not sold on the looks. Will wait to see one on the flesh before making a full decision.
Seen it in the flesh, it is horribly fat and bloated and looks worse than it does in the picture (if possible) I love the Dukes, but the Diavel is a what is it and why does it exist bike and why style it like that, just looks like a fat Monster had really nasty diry sex with a B King and this is the dirty love child they formed.
MSTRBKR said:
BlackPrince said:
Do it!
I'm seriously considering a bike as a commuter now that I'm going in to the 'real' world of work. I trust myself to ride it safely, just not other people.
Just treat everyone on the road like a retard and you'll be fine. And then you can laugh at the car drivers stuck in rush hour (but not when it's raining)
fwaggie said:
Front end reminds me of some ancient BMW tourer
(Not this one, but something similar)
I couldn't own a bike that ugly, but it sounds a whole heap of fun, can't wait for one of my mates to buy one so I can have a go
I must be very gay and very middle aged.(Not this one, but something similar)
I couldn't own a bike that ugly, but it sounds a whole heap of fun, can't wait for one of my mates to buy one so I can have a go
But I prefer this rather tasty BMW cafe racer to the Judge Dredd Ducati.
MSTRBKR said:
I'm seriously considering a bike as a commuter now that I'm going in to the 'real' world of work. I trust myself to ride it safely, just not other people.
Do it. Soo much more fun commuting on a bike (at least when its not cold and rainy and even then...) than it is on the train or in a car imo, esp through really bad traffic. And, most fatal bike accidents are single-vehicle accidents so its ultimately up to you the rider, tho admittedly most bike injuries involve a 2nd vehicle.
RE: other people, you learn to anticipate and even predict their movements. I was with a non-biker mate in his BMW recently and he almost had an incident when a woman in a Laguna moved into our lane and he got rather angry and flipped her off. I predicted that the Laguna would move into our lane based on her speed, lane posn etc. This has happened a few times, and so you get a sense of what types of cars, drivers to avoid, and also when you should be cautious (if there is empty space, some car or pedestrian will fill it, so I always slow down where filtering past a large gap in traffic)
I think most accidents w/ other vehicles are reasonably predictable, short of someone deliberately driving straight into you, and I don't think thats a concern as much as your own addiction to adrenaline and doing inappropriate speeds and then crashing.
And, helmets, bike gear and modern medicine is advanced enough now that you can expect not to die on a bike, you might break an arm but that can be avoided as well to a large extent imo.
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