RE: PH2 Tested: Husqvarna Off-Road ABS

RE: PH2 Tested: Husqvarna Off-Road ABS

Friday 4th November 2011

PH2 Tested: Husqvarna Off-Road ABS

Does ABS belong on an off-roader? Husky thinks so...




Over the past 10 years we have seen an electronic revolution in the world of motorcycling. When we were all living in fear of the Millennium Bug hitting and planes falling out of the sky, the most advanced form of electronic control on a motorcycle was fuel injection, and even that was pretty basic.

ABS was in its infancy and even an onboard lap timer was considered pretty impressive. Fast forward 12 years and we have traction control, sport ABS, variable fuel maps, anti-wheelie, lap timers, gear indicators, electronic suspension - the list goes on and on. Now Husqvarna has added a new name to this list - off-road ABS.


To the off-road purist the thought of a dedicated ABS system for a dirt bike is akin to blasphemy. Off-road riding is about challenging nature, defeating huge ruts and rocky inclines in a one-on-one battle. But times change. Safety has started to play a more significant role in the world and now Husqvarna is planning to introduce ABS into its range. Probably. Despite allowing us to test a Husky TE449 Enduro bike with ABS, the firm still says it is a 'development' project. Which basically means it is almost certain to appear within a year or two.

So what is it? Essentially the off-road ABS system is identical to 'normal' road bike ABS when it comes to hardware. Husky is owned by BMW and so has borrowed some of its technology. The control unit is incredibly small and weighs less than 1.5kg, but what makes it neat is the way it works.

The Husky system monitors front- and rear-wheel speed, but it basically only acts on the information from the front wheel. Why? On an off-road bike the rear is often skidded into a corner, or is up in the air, something that isn't common (hopefully!) on a road bike but happens naturally in an off-road environment due to the uneven terrain. While the system looks at data from the rear, it ignores it if it is significantly slower than the front wheel's speed. Because ABS works when you are on the brakes, the rear is unlikely to be moving faster than the front (unless you are holding the throttle open while braking!!!), but it is likely to be slower if you are skidding or it is in the air. Cleverly, if the rear's speed is close to the front's and the ABS is activated it will actually reduce the amount of ABS, calculating that as the rear is moving there must be more grip. So that's the techy part over; what's it like to use?


I have a confession at this point. I'm crap off-road. I'm not a fan and generally when I see an off-road bike I also get visions of me ending up cuddling a tree or upside-down in a hedge. Ironically this makes me exactly the kind of person this system is aimed at. The ABS isn't a 'competition system', but is instead designed to give more confidence to the 'average off-road rider', which I guess is me. While I find uphill off-road riding non-intimidating (as when you shut the throttle you slow down), what makes 'the fear' take hold is the feeling of a loss of control on descents. When you get halfway down a steep incline and the bike starts to 'run away' from you I tend to panic.

At this point on a conventionally braked bike you can apply the brakes, but with the weight off the rear it often locks and I assume the front will also skid should I panic and grab a handful. Experienced off-roaders will simply use the engine's braking and skillful use of both brakes to slow the bike down, but I freely admit that I am not overly skillful! Which is where the ABS comes in.

On a fairly tricky (for me) off-road course and trail ride through a forest I found the ABS a huge comfort. Things happen quite quickly in an off-road environment and the fact I didn't have to concentrate on the front locking meant my little brain cell could instead focus on where I was going, look for obstacles and generally plan a route through the trees and rocks. Dropping down steep inclines I had the confidence to apply the front brake and although I admit this mainly proved that there was far more grip than I assumed there was, on the occasional 'panic brake' when an unexpected rut or sight of a looming tree caused a reflex twitch, the ABS saved it turning into something more serious.


Is this the future of trail riding? While I can certainly see ABS becoming more common in off-road, I don't think it is 100 per cent the future. A skilled off-road rider can certainly out-perform the ABS as they have learnt to deal with front-wheel skids, but for 'green lane riders' who only go out occasionally it is certainly a worthy addition.

The thing about green lanes as opposed to motocross tracks is that you never know what is around the next corner. Track riding is constant, round a bend on a green lane and you may encounter a walker, horse, fellow rider or a multitude of varying natural conditions such as an incline, rut or huge patch of mud. ABS gives riders an extra safety net that, while I would say is more suited to less confident off-road riders, is also a valid addition to a more experienced rider's arsenal.

When it does appear, Husky has hinted that it will have varying modes to allow you to decide on its sensitivity as well as the ability to turn it off completely. Personally, if I was considering venturing off-road I'd get a bike with ABS, use it to learn the limits of front wheel traction in safety then turn the sensitivity down or ABS off completely when I was more experienced.

So does ABS belong off-road? While I'd say not in a 'race environment' or motocross track, for your average Joe who likes green lane riding with his mates I reckon that by the time Husky launches its system it will be developed enough to be a worthy addition. So that's another field of motorcycling invaded by electronics. How long until we get off-road traction control?

 

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Chicken Chaser

Original Poster:

7,779 posts

224 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Can I have a go?


jmatras

220 posts

223 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Back in my day, dirt bikes were air-cooled two-strokes, with cable-operated drum brakes. ABS? Really? yuck

3doorPete

9,917 posts

234 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I guess if it's made law by the EU and Enduro bikes have to have it, a switchable, well developed version is the way forward.

Would like to know how it handles wheelies, the sensors being caked in mud and stationary turns where you spin the rear with front brake on to bring the back around to where you need to go.

Mad Jock

1,272 posts

262 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Perhaps it'll help some people cross rivers without drowning.................

ge0rge

3,053 posts

205 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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abs on an enduro bike, no thanks. Abs on any bike - nar..

jp-speed-triple

1,504 posts

187 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Not sure what the point of this is really? Its an interesting technical exercise, but no thanks.

Afterall...where's the fun in going out and learning a skill anyway?...let the bike take care of it and you too can look like a deamon whilst remaining a kak handed spaz.

Besides, in order to have average green laners buying this, there would I expect need to be some future for laning!

slevin911

646 posts

176 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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what is the point really? its like when yamaha made the dt230 lanza with tc completely pointless and did not work well at all!!

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

227 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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I saw that word "safety" interpreted it as "Euro nancy boys wrapped in cotton wool" & stopped reading more.

cheadle hulme

2,457 posts

182 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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I'm suprised some people are actually on the internet.

They'd be better off with a rolled up copy of MCN and 10 Woodbines.

Maruchino

958 posts

184 months

Saturday 5th November 2011
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cheadle hulme said:
I'm suprised some people are actually on the internet.

They'd be better off with a rolled up copy of MCN and 10 Woodbines.
laughlaughlaughlaugh

philis

415 posts

217 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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ABS is good on the M1 on a monday morning, the rest of the time its just there to keep the average jack-ass out of A&E. I cant really see it taking off.


ellisd82

685 posts

208 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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being able to turn it off when you need to is a sensible option. Rider safety I see as...well rider safety. Anything thats helps is shirley a good thing?

_g_

741 posts

201 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Would seem to make more sense for the TE630 - loaded up a month in to a trip in Africa, I can see there being some definite advantages to having something to keep your bike upright after a hard day's riding in the middle of nowhere.

As suggested, for trail riding it's the steep downhills I can see it being useful - I've come off before at Enduroland when chasing another rider; with my weight right back and roots etc I left braking a bit too late before a turn. Sure I must have come off other times under breaking too.
For racing, if it was good enough I'm sure it'll offer some advantages to enduro at least - being able to slam on the brakes regardless of the surface and still manage to slow with reasonable speed.

hman

7,487 posts

194 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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not sure that this would improve my enduro times /no. of laps but its a development which might help others.

Just dont think it needs to be mandatory

montyvr6

93 posts

184 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Certainly no need to make ABS mandatory on off road bikes. We all know the risks. But if it helps me go faster and keeps me upright more then i'll have more fun so it gets my vote.

My only concern is how well the system will hold up to the mud and general abuse a dirt bike gets. I spend enough money fixing my bike already so the extra money of replacing ABS components would certainly sting.

Regardless I'd love to have a go on one and see what its like. Always surprises me how many people say no straight away without trying it.

y2blade

56,091 posts

215 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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...........so why is "Turn the ABS off for off0road use" the first thing you get told to do on the BMW GS range?

the second thing is "Stand on the pegs if the road is a little bit dusty rolleyes "


3doorPete

9,917 posts

234 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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y2blade said:
...........so why is "Turn the ABS off for off0road use" the first thing you get told to do on the BMW GS range?

the second thing is "Stand on the pegs if the road is a little bit dusty rolleyes "
The third thing is "a 1200GS is an ideal choice for off roading" laugh

black-k1

11,914 posts

229 months

Monday 7th November 2011
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Maruchino said:
cheadle hulme said:
I'm suprised some people are actually on the internet.

They'd be better off with a rolled up copy of MCN and 10 Woodbines.
laughlaughlaughlaugh
yes
Some are only just coming to terms with the loss of the manual ignitition advance and retard lever! biggrin

_g_

741 posts

201 months

Tuesday 8th November 2011
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I rather suspect this is so that BMW doesn't have to fit a confusing 'off' switch to the GS in the future - thus trying out prototypes in their range that won't get all the Ewan and Wassisname types worried first.

busta

4,504 posts

233 months

Tuesday 8th November 2011
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Does the ABS incorporate any sort of 'endo' control I wonder?